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Anonymous wrote:You cannot preach the sanctity of life until access to safe and reliable contraceptives is freely available to poor, uninsured, working poor and those financially struggling

Along with an incentive to use the safe and reliable contraception.

Are you saying some women do want to experience a crisis pregnancy?

Not at all. If an abortion is needed for medical reasons by all means it should be available. The goal should be to make the majority of abortions that are not medically required as rare as the abortions that are medically required.

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What differrnce does the reason matter? No woman should be forced to have a child against her will and I do not care who the father is!

Perfect. Have tubes tightened, shots, birth control pills or close the legs. Whatever it takes to not get pregnant. After doing all these and still have babies, then there should be different debate.

can you say that again but in english this time

DP. Only use abortions if contraception was really used but failed.

How are you going to determine that contraceptives actually were used before allowing the Abortion?

You can’t determine it. That’s why it is necessary to provide incentives to actually use birth control to make abortions rare.

Anonymous wrote:Wealthy and middle class women will never bear children they do not want. All this is going to do is increase the number of poor people Alabama has to ability to handle. Great plan.

And will speed up the decline in the share of the population which is white

MABA!!!

(Make America Brown Again)

Wealthy and middle class women will never bear children they do not want. All this is going to do is increase the number of poor people Alabama has to ability to handle. Great plan.

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Anonymous wrote:Guy rapes a 12 year old serves 6 months in prison

He gets out, rapes another teenagers and serves four years in prison


"Mirasolo could have been sentenced to 25 years to life for the sexual assault of Tiffany, but was allowed to plead guilty to a lesser charge of attempted third-degree criminal sexual conduct.

He was released from jail in July 2009. In March 2010, he sexually assaulted a 14-year-old Deckerville girl and later pleaded guilty to fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct. Mirasolo was paroled in July 2016, according to a state corrections database."

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2017/10/17/sex-offender-custody-case-hearing/106736162/


https://nypost.com/2017/10/09/convicted-rapist-gets-joint-custody-of-victims-child/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


Really says a lot about our justice system if you punish a woman seeking abortion more than you punish a child rapist

I'll bet that there would have been a different outcome if "this young man" had gone through the court system in Alabama or Texas.

Ya, he would have been the judge instead.

BOOM.

not in Alabama or Texas

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Guy rapes a 12 year old serves 6 months in prison

He gets out, rapes another teenagers and serves four years in prison


"Mirasolo could have been sentenced to 25 years to life for the sexual assault of Tiffany, but was allowed to plead guilty to a lesser charge of attempted third-degree criminal sexual conduct.

He was released from jail in July 2009. In March 2010, he sexually assaulted a 14-year-old Deckerville girl and later pleaded guilty to fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct. Mirasolo was paroled in July 2016, according to a state corrections database."

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2017/10/17/sex-offender-custody-case-hearing/106736162/


https://nypost.com/2017/10/09/convicted-rapist-gets-joint-custody-of-victims-child/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


Really says a lot about our justice system if you punish a woman seeking abortion more than you punish a child rapist

I'll bet that there would have been a different outcome if "this young man" had gone through the court system in Alabama or Texas.

Ya, he would have been the judge instead.

not a chance

Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile in Israel abortion is legal, easily accessible and not even a topic of debate. https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/As-abortion-fight-heats-up-in-US-termination-in-Israel-easily-accessible-589923?fbclid=IwAR1FOtpR7cndplOitWGdZ04ODed8ytbllZVQhWdLE2VJAcWJKww6i0x8dGA

And paid for by the government health system.

What happens when you ban abortons

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/05/16/what-actually-happens-when-a-country-bans-abortion-romania-alabama/

Romania case study. Pretty grim. I don't see "small government" GOP supporters getting on board with such baby mill facilities.

Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile in Israel abortion is legal, easily accessible and not even a topic of debate. https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/As-abortion-fight-heats-up-in-US-termination-in-Israel-easily-accessible-589923?fbclid=IwAR1FOtpR7cndplOitWGdZ04ODed8ytbllZVQhWdLE2VJAcWJKww6i0x8dGA

They particularly like it for Palestinians.

Meanwhile in Israel abortion is legal, easily accessible and not even a topic of debate. https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/As-abortion-fight-heats-up-in-US-termination-in-Israel-easily-accessible-589923?fbclid=IwAR1FOtpR7cndplOitWGdZ04ODed8ytbllZVQhWdLE2VJAcWJKww6i0x8dGA

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Guy rapes a 12 year old serves 6 months in prison

He gets out, rapes another teenagers and serves four years in prison


"Mirasolo could have been sentenced to 25 years to life for the sexual assault of Tiffany, but was allowed to plead guilty to a lesser charge of attempted third-degree criminal sexual conduct.

He was released from jail in July 2009. In March 2010, he sexually assaulted a 14-year-old Deckerville girl and later pleaded guilty to fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct. Mirasolo was paroled in July 2016, according to a state corrections database."

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2017/10/17/sex-offender-custody-case-hearing/106736162/


https://nypost.com/2017/10/09/convicted-rapist-gets-joint-custody-of-victims-child/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


Really says a lot about our justice system if you punish a woman seeking abortion more than you punish a child rapist

I'll bet that there would have been a different outcome if "this young man" had gone through the court system in Alabama or Texas.

Ya, he would have been the judge instead.

BOOM.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Guy rapes a 12 year old serves 6 months in prison

He gets out, rapes another teenagers and serves four years in prison


"Mirasolo could have been sentenced to 25 years to life for the sexual assault of Tiffany, but was allowed to plead guilty to a lesser charge of attempted third-degree criminal sexual conduct.

He was released from jail in July 2009. In March 2010, he sexually assaulted a 14-year-old Deckerville girl and later pleaded guilty to fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct. Mirasolo was paroled in July 2016, according to a state corrections database."

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2017/10/17/sex-offender-custody-case-hearing/106736162/


https://nypost.com/2017/10/09/convicted-rapist-gets-joint-custody-of-victims-child/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


Really says a lot about our justice system if you punish a woman seeking abortion more than you punish a child rapist

I'll bet that there would have been a different outcome if "this young man" had gone through the court system in Alabama or Texas.

Ya, he would have been the judge instead.

Mic Drop

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Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that they did not declare personhood on embryos even if many pro-life people believe that life begins at conception. I am guessing that they did not want to destroy the IVF industry and Georgia and Alabama?

I'm always surprised that there aren't a lot more pro-life people protesting at IVF clinics because you have so many embryos that are destroyed and you have embryos that are Frozen having some kind of jail state for years, even decades.

Because it’s not about the embryos, it’s about the whoring whores who dare to enjoy sex for non-procreative purposes. Women going through IVF are the opposite, they are women who want babies so they’re okay and we don’t need to punish them.

The whole anti-abortion position and all of its contradictions and inconsistencies is so much easier to understand once you accept that this is the real motive.

No, I think it's because Republican women probably use infertility services at the same rates as others, maybe even more so (because $$$). And presumably their Republican husbands also see themselves as consumers of fertility services. As usual politicians are acting like politicians and not doing things that would anger people who vote for and donate money to them.

And Republican women already live with so many hypocrisies, what's one more.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Guy rapes a 12 year old serves 6 months in prison

He gets out, rapes another teenagers and serves four years in prison


"Mirasolo could have been sentenced to 25 years to life for the sexual assault of Tiffany, but was allowed to plead guilty to a lesser charge of attempted third-degree criminal sexual conduct.

He was released from jail in July 2009. In March 2010, he sexually assaulted a 14-year-old Deckerville girl and later pleaded guilty to fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct. Mirasolo was paroled in July 2016, according to a state corrections database."

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2017/10/17/sex-offender-custody-case-hearing/106736162/


https://nypost.com/2017/10/09/convicted-rapist-gets-joint-custody-of-victims-child/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


Really says a lot about our justice system if you punish a woman seeking abortion more than you punish a child rapist

I'll bet that there would have been a different outcome if "this young man" had gone through the court system in Alabama or Texas.

Ya, he would have been the judge instead.

Nope

"Alabama’s near-ban on abortion takes effect, performing an abortion would become a Class A felony, which carries a minimum sentence of 10 years in prison — the same minimum sentence as severe sex crimes like first-degree rape and sexual torture, under Alabama law.

Incest and sexual abuse, however, are considered Class C felonies, with a minimum sentence of one year and one day in prison and a maximum sentence of 10 years. Second-degree rape usually applies to “what most people usually consider statutory rape,” explains Andrew Segel, a lawyer from Huntsville, Alabama, though it also applies if the victim is between the ages of 12 and 16 and the perpetrator is over the age of 16, and if the victim is “incapable of consent by reason of being mentally defective,” per the Alabama criminal code. In Alabama, second-degree rape is a Class B felony with a maximum sentence of 20 years.

The implications of these sentencing guidelines are clear, and they are chilling: If HB 314 is enacted, a first-time offender who is accused of raping, say, an intellectually disabled woman or a 13-year-old girl could potentially serve less prison time than a doctor providing an abortion. And that’s assuming that they will serve any prison time to begin with. Compared to other victims of violent crimes, rape and sexual assault survivors are far less likely to report their assailants to the police, which leads to far fewer rape-related arrests and felony convictions; only a tiny fraction of those accused of sexual assault will ever spend a day in jail. In effect, if this law is enacted, performing a safe and constitutionally protected procedure that nearly one in four women will have in their lifetimes will be criminalized to a larger degree than sexually assaulting a 12-year-old girl."

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/alabama-abortion-law-rape-sexual-assault-punishment-835583/