Anonymous
Post 09/22/2020 04:44     Subject: Feedback on Next Level Lacrosse?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nice try, their 2023 B team already has 20 players and no one would pay to play on a B team with 35 players. Also nice try with the high school recruiting angle. Just because you have 29 players doesn't mean you'll get more college recruits, only a certain amount of kids can get real play time with that large of a roster. And their 2024 team has 28 players and that's not a "sophomore+" team worried about recruiting. Also their other high school A teams have 26 players, not 29. That's a big difference in lax and almost $9,000 in NL's pockets.

The 2028s have 24 kids on the roster and they're no where near high school and recruiting.

Money, Money, Money.



9k per team -7k in expenses.
2k per team for the owners. That’s literally nothing for a full time job working as a coach to a bunch of Millionaires.

Would you want your child’s teacher to be making 20-30k a year? Neither would I.


Expenses per team would be essentially fixed. The incremental cost for an extra kid on the roster would be virtually zero so prior poster was more right about the money.

As far as roster sizes, if NL is *relatively* honest (let’s be real, ML/DCE wouldn’t be any more) about playing time philosophy, then the parents and kids go into it with eyes wide open and can choose to spend their money as they see fit.

I’m guessing most of the college players buried deep on those 40-50 man rosters are still happy they got to be part of those teams.
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2020 23:40     Subject: Feedback on Next Level Lacrosse?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NL 2023 Blue team has 29 players on the roster. Can anyone say MONEY GRAB!


Money grab my asshole. If that was the case then they would make another team. Next Level would be able to add another 15 players to the B team roster if they were super concerned about money.

You are clearly uneducated on how High School Club Lacrosse works. Everyone keeps a large roster in the Sophmore+ years because they want to get there players recruited. It’s a recruiting tactic, not money grab.

Next Level 2026, for example, only has 19 players.

You simply do not know how college recruiting works.

Maybe join the Madlax 2026 with 35+ players?


Dear BlackWolf/DCE owner (aka the registered pedophile/ one who murdered someone),

How is a 26 man roster a money grab? Considering that 2 of those 26 go to boarding schools.

18-20 kids play in a select game my friend. So they have 5 extra kids in case of injuries, chance for a player to move up...

A money grab would be the Kid assaulting/ bully owner of MadLax (Cabell Maddux’s 40 man roster on the 2023 team.

How does an unusually large roster (29 players) at the sophomore year help players to get recruited?
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It doesn't. Somebody just wants to believe her little Spartan is Ivy bound because he's on the team, and not just $$ for the owners.
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2020 23:34     Subject: Feedback on Next Level Lacrosse?
Anonymous wrote:Nice try, their 2023 B team already has 20 players and no one would pay to play on a B team with 35 players. Also nice try with the high school recruiting angle. Just because you have 29 players doesn't mean you'll get more college recruits, only a certain amount of kids can get real play time with that large of a roster. And their 2024 team has 28 players and that's not a "sophomore+" team worried about recruiting. Also their other high school A teams have 26 players, not 29. That's a big difference in lax and almost $9,000 in NL's pockets.

The 2028s have 24 kids on the roster and they're no where near high school and recruiting.

Money, Money, Money.



9k per team -7k in expenses.
2k per team for the owners. That’s literally nothing for a full time job working as a coach to a bunch of Millionaires.

Would you want your child’s teacher to be making 20-30k a year? Neither would I.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2020 22:35     Subject: Feedback on Next Level Lacrosse?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NL 2023 Blue team has 29 players on the roster. Can anyone say MONEY GRAB!


Money grab my asshole. If that was the case then they would make another team. Next Level would be able to add another 15 players to the B team roster if they were super concerned about money.

You are clearly uneducated on how High School Club Lacrosse works. Everyone keeps a large roster in the Sophmore+ years because they want to get there players recruited. It’s a recruiting tactic, not money grab.

Next Level 2026, for example, only has 19 players.

You simply do not know how college recruiting works.

Maybe join the Madlax 2026 with 35+ players?


How does an unusually large roster (29 players) at the sophomore year help players to get recruited?
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It doesn't. Somebody just wants to believe her little Spartan is Ivy bound because he's on the team, and not just $$ for the owners.


Disinterested party here, but I would presume the theory would be that if you have a larger roster it means more coaches will watch to see specific players and as a result could see other kids who they did not plan to see. The obvious hole in the logic is that only so many kids can play at once, so larger rosters means many kids will have limited to no playing time which means that it won’t matter if a college coach is watching.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2020 22:12     Subject: Re:Feedback on Next Level Lacrosse?
This isn’t the whole story, but the rosters are larger generally because they kept all players from the previous year teams because of the Covid shortened season last year. My guess is the rosters go down a little in size next year to a more normal level. So all the teams are a couple players more heavy than they would otherwise be. I personally think for the younger teams a slightly larger roster is better because you can do more in practice. Obviously you have to balance that with playing time in games. But around 22 is best for younger teams and a few extra for the older teams especially if you have players that play multiple sports.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2020 15:11     Subject: Feedback on Next Level Lacrosse?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NL 2023 Blue team has 29 players on the roster. Can anyone say MONEY GRAB!


Money grab my asshole. If that was the case then they would make another team. Next Level would be able to add another 15 players to the B team roster if they were super concerned about money.

You are clearly uneducated on how High School Club Lacrosse works. Everyone keeps a large roster in the Sophmore+ years because they want to get there players recruited. It’s a recruiting tactic, not money grab.

Next Level 2026, for example, only has 19 players.

You simply do not know how college recruiting works.

Maybe join the Madlax 2026 with 35+ players?


How does an unusually large roster (29 players) at the sophomore year help players to get recruited?
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It doesn't. Somebody just wants to believe her little Spartan is Ivy bound because he's on the team, and not just $$ for the owners.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2020 14:45     Subject: Feedback on Next Level Lacrosse?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NL 2023 Blue team has 29 players on the roster. Can anyone say MONEY GRAB!


Money grab my asshole. If that was the case then they would make another team. Next Level would be able to add another 15 players to the B team roster if they were super concerned about money.

You are clearly uneducated on how High School Club Lacrosse works. Everyone keeps a large roster in the Sophmore+ years because they want to get there players recruited. It’s a recruiting tactic, not money grab.

Next Level 2026, for example, only has 19 players.

You simply do not know how college recruiting works.

Maybe join the Madlax 2026 with 35+ players?


How does an unusually large roster (29 players) at the sophomore year help players to get recruited?
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2020 07:35     Subject: Feedback on Next Level Lacrosse?
No different than any of the other clubs in the beltway area. It seems there are just a few too many players for the 3 teams and not enough for a 4th club.

Where is the next closest club on the Maryland side of the the beltway - MDX in Olney maybe?
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2020 00:39     Subject: Feedback on Next Level Lacrosse?
Nice try, their 2023 B team already has 20 players and no one would pay to play on a B team with 35 players. Also nice try with the high school recruiting angle. Just because you have 29 players doesn't mean you'll get more college recruits, only a certain amount of kids can get real play time with that large of a roster. And their 2024 team has 28 players and that's not a "sophomore+" team worried about recruiting. Also their other high school A teams have 26 players, not 29. That's a big difference in lax and almost $9,000 in NL's pockets.

The 2028s have 24 kids on the roster and they're no where near high school and recruiting.

Money, Money, Money.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2020 23:46     Subject: Feedback on Next Level Lacrosse?
Anonymous wrote:NL 2023 Blue team has 29 players on the roster. Can anyone say MONEY GRAB!


Money grab my asshole. If that was the case then they would make another team. Next Level would be able to add another 15 players to the B team roster if they were super concerned about money.

You are clearly uneducated on how High School Club Lacrosse works. Everyone keeps a large roster in the Sophmore+ years because they want to get there players recruited. It’s a recruiting tactic, not money grab.

Next Level 2026, for example, only has 19 players.

You simply do not know how college recruiting works.

Maybe join the Madlax 2026 with 35+ players?
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2020 22:28     Subject: Feedback on Next Level Lacrosse?
NL 2023 Blue team has 29 players on the roster. Can anyone say MONEY GRAB!
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2020 00:56     Subject: Re:Feedback on Next Level Lacrosse?
22:53, all true
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2020 22:53     Subject: Feedback on Next Level Lacrosse?
All of this is such BS. Next Level plays the game like everyone else, if not more so. To the PP who said NL doesn't recruit, that is laughable and they need to educate themselves. NL steals kids from other club teams by offering them incentives, promises, and discounted fees. I have even heard of NL paying for some A team players annual fees and travel expenses. The middle school and high school kids all talk, they know who is being offered what and what coaches are telling kids to lure them over. Next Level also lures kids over and then doesn't play them. So they lure your kid over, take your money, and then don't play your kid. I know lots of players who left their club, went to NL and then came back or moved to another. In terms of shady practices for the close in popular DMV clubs, I would say first Madlax, then NL, and Express. Madlax being the worst, then NL, then Express.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2020 11:04     Subject: Re:Feedback on Next Level Lacrosse?
Profiting is not a problem they are businesses , but when my children where in MCPS the ties between the public school coaches and these private ventures were unacceptable at best. For example, field hockey coach pushes girls to camps and tournaments that she profited off of then cuts them from the public school teams. The whole you won't play on my team if you don't do my personal for profit camp. It's a fine line......


Sounds like you have a beef with the coach who did this but you should be complaining to the school system. The Walt Whitman JV basketball coach was doing exactly this by requiring his players to play on his off season teams. The parents complained and he was removed from the school.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2020 09:48     Subject: Re:Feedback on Next Level Lacrosse?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let's be honest, anybody who owns a for-profit youth sports business, by definition, is going to be slimy. The owners of MadLax, Blackwolf and NextLevel may get slammed the most, but the same criticisms can be leveled at the owners of all the travel lacrosse programs in DC, Baltimore, etc. You can't earn a six or seven figure income based on kids sports without manipulating players and families. That is how the business works. If these owners were good people, they would be volunteering their time as rec coaches and find another way to earn a living. Families should accept the reality of travel lacrosse, or stick to rec. But debating which owner is worse than another based on anecdotal experience is a bit silly.



It’s important for parents to note the way that other programs treat their players. No one said Next Level is perfect, but it is by far and away the best option of the 3 DC teams (Madlax, Express, Next Level). Express is collapsing at the younger years, and are coached by Dads. Madlax is coached by professionals, but they are jerks. Their owner sends nasty emails to players and their schools. His team was caught with hookers at the McLean School. He assaulted a kid at St. John’s...

Next Level has high quality teams, and unlike Express or Madlax, it does not have a any disturbing accusations.

What is wrong with making a profit from youth sports? People are providing a service, so they should be payed. It would be different if a team had 30 players on a team (Madlax). That’s just stealing. It’s not like the owners of Express, VLC or Next Level are making a fortune of youth sports. They just make enough to feed their families.



Profiting is not a problem they are businesses , but when my children where in MCPS the ties between the public school coaches and these private ventures were unacceptable at best. For example, field hockey coach pushes girls to camps and tournaments that she profited off of then cuts them from the public school teams. The whole you won't play on my team if you don't do my personal for profit camp. It's a fine line......