Anonymous
07/31/2018 10:52
Subject: Who said there isn't a North-South divide?
They can and do split up neighborhood associations. Alcove Heights isn’t special or protected.
Anonymous
07/31/2018 10:36
Subject: Who said there isn't a North-South divide?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We'll see when the proposals come out, but I would bet money on key not moving. People need to realize that not moving key has effects on the rest of the county, especially with the asfs boundary staying fixed going forward. Looking at the other thread, it seems like the thought is to empty long branch to fleet, and move most of south of wilson to long branch. What do you south arlingtons think of that? Does that do anything to help with boundaries and disrupt poverty pockets?
Where did you hear that one? The PUs zoned to Henry are the ones that are mostly supposed to go to Fleet. I say mostly because some of them will certainly be zoned to Drew, because they were closer to Drew in the first place. I agree with others that it would be odd to send the PUs from Long Branch to Fleet, so free up more seats in Clarendon/Rosslyn, when Henry is bursting at the seams. Fleet will open at capacity.
Plus, I think Henry PTA would probably lay siege to Fleet if it were zoned as a school for people north of 50... I don't know what T-shirt color they've chosen though.
It was the consensus in the other boundary thread. People kept saying "long branch will make space there's no space in taylor". If you sum up the units in the current key, taylor, and long branch zones, you exceed the building capacities. You can likely assume that a certain percentage will keep on going to key because its close by, but since they only have one year of data, that seems like a risk.
APS really f'ed this up. I'll be curious to see what the proposals look like this fall.
Long Branch can't just make space, based on maximum utilization, unless they move more PUs out of the boundary than just the ones S of 50. Since Barrett is not involved in the first round of school boundary changes, the only possible move is for them to take Long Branch kids N of 50 and send them to Fleet. If their object is to avoid public outcry, they done messed up.
Anonymous
07/31/2018 10:32
Subject: Who said there isn't a North-South divide?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We'll see when the proposals come out, but I would bet money on key not moving. People need to realize that not moving key has effects on the rest of the county, especially with the asfs boundary staying fixed going forward. Looking at the other thread, it seems like the thought is to empty long branch to fleet, and move most of south of wilson to long branch. What do you south arlingtons think of that? Does that do anything to help with boundaries and disrupt poverty pockets?
Where did you hear that one? The PUs zoned to Henry are the ones that are mostly supposed to go to Fleet. I say mostly because some of them will certainly be zoned to Drew, because they were closer to Drew in the first place. I agree with others that it would be odd to send the PUs from Long Branch to Fleet, so free up more seats in Clarendon/Rosslyn, when Henry is bursting at the seams. Fleet will open at capacity.
Plus, I think Henry PTA would probably lay siege to Fleet if it were zoned as a school for people north of 50... I don't know what T-shirt color they've chosen though.
It was the consensus in the other boundary thread. People kept saying "long branch will make space there's no space in taylor". If you sum up the units in the current key, taylor, and long branch zones, you exceed the building capacities. You can likely assume that a certain percentage will keep on going to key because its close by, but since they only have one year of data, that seems like a risk.
APS really f'ed this up. I'll be curious to see what the proposals look like this fall.
Henry is at 143%. Taylor is at 98%. There may some land at play, but the Henry population as it exists will fill Fleet.
Isn't Reed supposed to take pressure off of the north schools?
Anonymous
07/31/2018 10:25
Subject: Who said there isn't a North-South divide?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Fleet is also going to take a big chunk of Alcova heights so more of abingdon and randolph can go to Barcroft. All of the Barcroft apartments will go to Barcroft. The school is close and after Alcova is mostly moved to Fleet there will be plenty of room at Barcroft.
WTF? Nope, they aren't taking walkers to Randolph and busing them across Columbia Pike to Barcroft.
Agree. That's a non-starter. And I think PP is a bit out of touch if they think Fleet is going to take "a big chunk of Alcova Heights." It may end up being a sliver, with just about everyone south of Glebe staying at Barcroft
Only the two PUs (the two smallest in land) across from Fleet are a slam dunk. APS' words, not mine. The rest of Alcova is a toss up. Alcova is practically an island because of the roads. You could send the bottom PU to Randolph and the biggest (landwise) could stay at Barcroft, but that ends up being 3 schools in one civic association. Alcova has a strong preference to stay together.
Anonymous
07/31/2018 10:11
Subject: Who said there isn't a North-South divide?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We'll see when the proposals come out, but I would bet money on key not moving. People need to realize that not moving key has effects on the rest of the county, especially with the asfs boundary staying fixed going forward. Looking at the other thread, it seems like the thought is to empty long branch to fleet, and move most of south of wilson to long branch. What do you south arlingtons think of that? Does that do anything to help with boundaries and disrupt poverty pockets?
Where did you hear that one? The PUs zoned to Henry are the ones that are mostly supposed to go to Fleet. I say mostly because some of them will certainly be zoned to Drew, because they were closer to Drew in the first place. I agree with others that it would be odd to send the PUs from Long Branch to Fleet, so free up more seats in Clarendon/Rosslyn, when Henry is bursting at the seams. Fleet will open at capacity.
Plus, I think Henry PTA would probably lay siege to Fleet if it were zoned as a school for people north of 50... I don't know what T-shirt color they've chosen though.
It was the consensus in the other boundary thread. People kept saying "long branch will make space there's no space in taylor". If you sum up the units in the current key, taylor, and long branch zones, you exceed the building capacities. You can likely assume that a certain percentage will keep on going to key because its close by, but since they only have one year of data, that seems like a risk.
APS really f'ed this up. I'll be curious to see what the proposals look like this fall.
Anonymous
07/31/2018 09:10
Subject: Who said there isn't a North-South divide?
Anonymous wrote:Fleet is also going to take a big chunk of Alcova heights so more of abingdon and randolph can go to Barcroft. All of the Barcroft apartments will go to Barcroft. The school is close and after Alcova is mostly moved to Fleet there will be plenty of room at Barcroft.
Let me guess, you live in alcova and are hoping you get zoned to Fleet.
Anonymous
07/31/2018 09:02
Subject: Who said there isn't a North-South divide?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Fleet is also going to take a big chunk of Alcova heights so more of abingdon and randolph can go to Barcroft. All of the Barcroft apartments will go to Barcroft. The school is close and after Alcova is mostly moved to Fleet there will be plenty of room at Barcroft.
WTF? Nope, they aren't taking walkers to Randolph and busing them across Columbia Pike to Barcroft.
Agree. That's a non-starter. And I think PP is a bit out of touch if they think Fleet is going to take "a big chunk of Alcova Heights." It may end up being a sliver, with just about everyone south of Glebe staying at Barcroft
Anonymous
07/31/2018 08:37
Subject: Who said there isn't a North-South divide?
Anonymous wrote:Fleet is also going to take a big chunk of Alcova heights so more of abingdon and randolph can go to Barcroft. All of the Barcroft apartments will go to Barcroft. The school is close and after Alcova is mostly moved to Fleet there will be plenty of room at Barcroft.
WTF? Nope, they aren't taking walkers to Randolph and busing them across Columbia Pike to Barcroft.
Anonymous
07/31/2018 08:01
Subject: Who said there isn't a North-South divide?
Fleet is also going to take a big chunk of Alcova heights so more of abingdon and randolph can go to Barcroft. All of the Barcroft apartments will go to Barcroft. The school is close and after Alcova is mostly moved to Fleet there will be plenty of room at Barcroft.
Anonymous
07/31/2018 07:18
Subject: Who said there isn't a North-South divide?
Anonymous wrote:We'll see when the proposals come out, but I would bet money on key not moving. People need to realize that not moving key has effects on the rest of the county, especially with the asfs boundary staying fixed going forward. Looking at the other thread, it seems like the thought is to empty long branch to fleet, and move most of south of wilson to long branch. What do you south arlingtons think of that? Does that do anything to help with boundaries and disrupt poverty pockets?
Where did you hear that one? The PUs zoned to Henry are the ones that are mostly supposed to go to Fleet. I say mostly because some of them will certainly be zoned to Drew, because they were closer to Drew in the first place. I agree with others that it would be odd to send the PUs from Long Branch to Fleet, so free up more seats in Clarendon/Rosslyn, when Henry is bursting at the seams. Fleet will open at capacity.
Plus, I think Henry PTA would probably lay siege to Fleet if it were zoned as a school for people north of 50... I don't know what T-shirt color they've chosen though.
Anonymous
07/30/2018 19:06
Subject: Who said there isn't a North-South divide?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We'll see when the proposals come out, but I would bet money on key not moving. People need to realize that not moving key has effects on the rest of the county, especially with the asfs boundary staying fixed going forward. Looking at the other thread, it seems like the thought is to empty long branch to fleet, and move most of south of wilson to long branch. What do you south arlingtons think of that? Does that do anything to help with boundaries and disrupt poverty pockets?
Wait, they are going to take kids who are in the walk zone to Long Branch and bus them to Fleet? Lol, no, not unless NVD is resigning.
But in all seriousness, I think Long Branch was going to send it's PUs from S of 50 to Fleet, but that's like 60 students. I don't think Long Branch, which has no space for trailers, would be able to absorb any significant number of new students unless they make both Fleet and Long Branch long/skinny boundaries that cross 50 and go as far N as Washington Blvd and as far S as Columbia Pike. This seems like it would add significantly to the number of students requiring bus service, and I'm not sure how it would affect diversity at those schools or the surrounding schools. Anyone else have a better sense? It's going to need to be a positive in one of those columns (either efficiency or diversity) to get any support from anyone outside the Key zone.
Listen, with all the political and space constraints, they are not even giving lip service to diversity. And reducing busing is a goal, but it is trumped by the goal to avoid matching monochrome t-shirted mobs.
Well, then I guess they are lying about what the process is and what criteria they are considering. To the t-shirt shop it is!
Anonymous
07/30/2018 18:55
Subject: Who said there isn't a North-South divide?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We'll see when the proposals come out, but I would bet money on key not moving. People need to realize that not moving key has effects on the rest of the county, especially with the asfs boundary staying fixed going forward. Looking at the other thread, it seems like the thought is to empty long branch to fleet, and move most of south of wilson to long branch. What do you south arlingtons think of that? Does that do anything to help with boundaries and disrupt poverty pockets?
Wait, they are going to take kids who are in the walk zone to Long Branch and bus them to Fleet? Lol, no, not unless NVD is resigning.
But in all seriousness, I think Long Branch was going to send it's PUs from S of 50 to Fleet, but that's like 60 students. I don't think Long Branch, which has no space for trailers, would be able to absorb any significant number of new students unless they make both Fleet and Long Branch long/skinny boundaries that cross 50 and go as far N as Washington Blvd and as far S as Columbia Pike. This seems like it would add significantly to the number of students requiring bus service, and I'm not sure how it would affect diversity at those schools or the surrounding schools. Anyone else have a better sense? It's going to need to be a positive in one of those columns (either efficiency or diversity) to get any support from anyone outside the Key zone.
Listen, with all the political and space constraints, they are not even giving lip service to diversity. And reducing busing is a goal, but it is trumped by the goal to avoid matching monochrome t-shirted mobs.
Anonymous
07/30/2018 15:16
Subject: Who said there isn't a North-South divide?
Quoted person from above, I don’t see how they can empty long branch either. They can kind of skirt around the long branch walk zone since it doesn’t cross Pershing, but it’s going to be a strange looking boundary.
Anonymous
07/30/2018 14:56
Subject: Who said there isn't a North-South divide?
Anonymous wrote:We'll see when the proposals come out, but I would bet money on key not moving. People need to realize that not moving key has effects on the rest of the county, especially with the asfs boundary staying fixed going forward. Looking at the other thread, it seems like the thought is to empty long branch to fleet, and move most of south of wilson to long branch. What do you south arlingtons think of that? Does that do anything to help with boundaries and disrupt poverty pockets?
Wait, they are going to take kids who are in the walk zone to Long Branch and bus them to Fleet? Lol, no, not unless NVD is resigning.
But in all seriousness, I think Long Branch was going to send it's PUs from S of 50 to Fleet, but that's like 60 students. I don't think Long Branch, which has no space for trailers, would be able to absorb any significant number of new students unless they make both Fleet and Long Branch long/skinny boundaries that cross 50 and go as far N as Washington Blvd and as far S as Columbia Pike. This seems like it would add significantly to the number of students requiring bus service, and I'm not sure how it would affect diversity at those schools or the surrounding schools. Anyone else have a better sense? It's going to need to be a positive in one of those columns (either efficiency or diversity) to get any support from anyone outside the Key zone.
Anonymous
07/30/2018 14:46
Subject: Re:Who said there isn't a North-South divide?
My bet is that options don’t move as part of the two upcoming boundary reviews, but that they will be front and center in any review that follows, so basically deferring the issue an extra couple of years. It is such a huge shuffle of planning units and I just don’t see APS being prepared to implement such a big change in the near term.