Anonymous
10/23/2017 17:23
Subject: Re:Trump to widow of Sgt. La David Johnson: 'He knew what he signed up for'
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I'm not sure if Obama called the families or not. We know that he did not call all of the families. He never called General Kelly after his son died, and Kelly said that he was right not to do so. Kelly recommended that Trump not call because Kelly had experience with these calls, and they rarely go well.
Was General Kelly's son married? If so, the spouse would have received the call, not the General.
He has stated that Obama did not call his family. All encompassing.
And, he also said that was not intended as criticism. It was just a fact.
Anonymous
10/23/2017 17:21
Subject: Re:Trump to widow of Sgt. La David Johnson: 'He knew what he signed up for'
Anonymous wrote:Can't be bothered to read the entire thread and I'm firmly in the Trump is a dotard camp but objectively the phrase "he knew what he signed up for" in the appropriate context doesn't strike me as being outrageous. Not sure what all the fuss is about when there are about 100 things this moron is doing that we should be fussing over. Also, that congresswoman is a raging lunatic. And I never knew the proper pronunciation of Niger until now.
I agree with you.
Does anyone seriously believe that President Trump called the family with the intent of insulting or disrespecting them?
If Congresswoman was a decent person, she would have consoled Myeshia by telling her that the president meant no harm and just wanted her to know how much his service to his country was appreciated.
But, instead, she saw an opportunity and pounced on it. Couldn’t wait to go to the press.
And, not sure how you know the proper pronunciation of Niger. I have heard it pronounced about 10 different ways by the media/politicians.
Anonymous
10/23/2017 17:21
Subject: Re:Trump to widow of Sgt. La David Johnson: 'He knew what he signed up for'
Anonymous wrote:Can't be bothered to read the entire thread and I'm firmly in the Trump is a dotard camp but objectively the phrase "he knew what he signed up for" in the appropriate context doesn't strike me as being outrageous. Not sure what all the fuss is about when there are about 100 things this moron is doing that we should be fussing over. Also, that congresswoman is a raging lunatic. And I never knew the proper pronunciation of Niger until now.
What makes the congresswoman a raging lunatic?
Anonymous
10/23/2017 17:20
Subject: Re:Trump to widow of Sgt. La David Johnson: 'He knew what he signed up for'
Anonymous wrote:
I'm not sure if Obama called the families or not. We know that he did not call all of the families. He never called General Kelly after his son died, and Kelly said that he was right not to do so. Kelly recommended that Trump not call because Kelly had experience with these calls, and they rarely go well.
Was General Kelly's son married? If so, the spouse would have received the call, not the General.
Anonymous
10/23/2017 17:13
Subject: Re:Trump to widow of Sgt. La David Johnson: 'He knew what he signed up for'
Can't be bothered to read the entire thread and I'm firmly in the Trump is a dotard camp but objectively the phrase "he knew what he signed up for" in the appropriate context doesn't strike me as being outrageous. Not sure what all the fuss is about when there are about 100 things this moron is doing that we should be fussing over. Also, that congresswoman is a raging lunatic. And I never knew the proper pronunciation of Niger until now.
Anonymous
10/23/2017 17:08
Subject: Re:Trump to widow of Sgt. La David Johnson: 'He knew what he signed up for'
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Jesus Christ. I guess we're better off when Trump doesn't call the families.
Yes, the same way we were when out last President didn't call the families.
President Obama and president bush both called the families of our fallen heroes and they both spent countless hours meeting with them privately and also spent countless hours in Walter Reed with our injured soldiers . The Obamas most favored charity (the charity they gave the most of their private charitable donations to)was Fisher House which assists the families of wounded soldiers and Michelle Obama and Jill Biden made helping military families one of their top two issues on par with the campaign to reduce childhood obesity. President Bush still spends a lot of time with the wounded veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan. There are accounts of him respectfully listening to family members expressing anger towards him. He never once said anything against Cindy Sheehan a Gold Star mother who spent years camped outside his ranch at Crawford in protest. Obama and Bush did the right thing but they did it in a low key way and they never ever made it about them.
I'm not sure if Obama called the families or not. We know that he did not call all of the families. He never called General Kelly after his son died, and Kelly said that he was right not to do so. Kelly recommended that Trump not call because Kelly had experience with these calls, and they rarely go well.
Anonymous
10/23/2017 16:56
Subject: Re:Trump to widow of Sgt. La David Johnson: 'He knew what he signed up for'
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Jesus Christ. I guess we're better off when Trump doesn't call the families.
Yes, the same way we were when out last President didn't call the families.
President Obama and president bush both called the families of our fallen heroes and they both spent countless hours meeting with them privately and also spent countless hours in Walter Reed with our injured soldiers . The Obamas most favored charity (the charity they gave the most of their private charitable donations to)was Fisher House which assists the families of wounded soldiers and Michelle Obama and Jill Biden made helping military families one of their top two issues on par with the campaign to reduce childhood obesity. President Bush still spends a lot of time with the wounded veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan. There are accounts of him respectfully listening to family members expressing anger towards him. He never once said anything against Cindy Sheehan a Gold Star mother who spent years camped outside his ranch at Crawford in protest. Obama and Bush did the right thing but they did it in a low key way and they never ever made it about them.
Anonymous
10/23/2017 15:56
Subject: Re:Trump to widow of Sgt. La David Johnson: 'He knew what he signed up for'
Oct 23 3:55--news just announced that Dunford is going to address Niger in a few minutes--
Anonymous
10/23/2017 15:56
Subject: Trump to widow of Sgt. La David Johnson: 'He knew what he signed up for'
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The modern odds of any US servicemember being killed in action are incredibly low. No one signs up for the military with the expectation that he has a good chance of dying. The odds are incredibly low.
That's true, but it is not true of special forces such as green berets.
He wasn't a green beret...
Group Support Command. Would it have been 3rd GSC? He was a mechanic and was probably a driver for the team that day. But that's just an assumption on my part.
I'm aware of that he was not green beret. But he was taking part in a green beret operation. I guess one must be very explicit when posting here.
But did he sign up to take part in a green beret operation? Did he really know what he was getting himself into?
Absolutely. The military does not spring special forces operations on unsuspecting troops.
Well they kind of do. Anyone can be assigned to the support command if they need that MOS. The Army just puts you where they need you. My spouse was in a GSC Signal detachment and had no idea what the unit even was until he looked it up. He loved it and enjoyed his time there, but he that was just where he PCSed to.
That's a completely different situation. That was not a special forces operation.
He wasn't special forces though. He was a mechanic, attached to a team, probably driving for them. They weren't expecting any "trouble", that's why the slow response. He wasn't out there on some covert mission.
For the upteenth time, we know he wasn't special forces. But the mission probably was covert. We don't know what his role was.
We don't know, they don't know, nobody knows. So, when he signed up, how was he supposed to know what he was signing up for? Nobody knows!
Anonymous
10/23/2017 15:51
Subject: Re:Trump to widow of Sgt. La David Johnson: 'He knew what he signed up for'
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
+1
I don't want to hear another word about the petty take a knee given how this president is treating a gold star widow.
The troops were there due to ‘bring back our girls’ Michelle.
So now the whole operation is Michelle Obama’s fault?? You guys are absurd.
Anonymous
10/23/2017 15:44
Subject: Trump to widow of Sgt. La David Johnson: 'He knew what he signed up for'
they could give her cause of death...shot in head/stomach/heart vs stabbed vs dehydration
they could give her a likely date of death: died on 4th/5th/6th?
they could give her a likely date of death: died on 4th/5th/6th?
Anonymous
10/23/2017 15:37
Subject: Re:Trump to widow of Sgt. La David Johnson: 'He knew what he signed up for'
She has a right to the information. The problem is that the information may not yet be available. Lots of early information of battles is incorrect. Some of the people who need to be interviewed may be hurt and unable to tell their story. (That is speculation on my part.)They will give her the information when they have it. Right now, they may have conflicting information and be trying to sort it out. They will not give her anything that is classified--such as what the mission was exactly. It will be general information about the purpose of the mission.
They have already told us some of it--but the details are vague. They may not yet know why he was separated from the others. I guess it is possible that he was captured and then killed--but, again, that is speculation. If he were the driver (as an earlier poster suggested), perhaps, he had dropped the other soldiers and was waiting at a different site. All sorts of things that we do not yet know.
They have already told us some of it--but the details are vague. They may not yet know why he was separated from the others. I guess it is possible that he was captured and then killed--but, again, that is speculation. If he were the driver (as an earlier poster suggested), perhaps, he had dropped the other soldiers and was waiting at a different site. All sorts of things that we do not yet know.
Anonymous
10/23/2017 15:36
Subject: Trump to widow of Sgt. La David Johnson: 'He knew what he signed up for'
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The modern odds of any US servicemember being killed in action are incredibly low. No one signs up for the military with the expectation that he has a good chance of dying. The odds are incredibly low.
That's true, but it is not true of special forces such as green berets.
He wasn't a green beret...
Group Support Command. Would it have been 3rd GSC? He was a mechanic and was probably a driver for the team that day. But that's just an assumption on my part.
I'm aware of that he was not green beret. But he was taking part in a green beret operation. I guess one must be very explicit when posting here.
But did he sign up to take part in a green beret operation? Did he really know what he was getting himself into?
Absolutely. The military does not spring special forces operations on unsuspecting troops.
Well they kind of do. Anyone can be assigned to the support command if they need that MOS. The Army just puts you where they need you. My spouse was in a GSC Signal detachment and had no idea what the unit even was until he looked it up. He loved it and enjoyed his time there, but he that was just where he PCSed to.
That's a completely different situation. That was not a special forces operation.
He wasn't special forces though. He was a mechanic, attached to a team, probably driving for them. They weren't expecting any "trouble", that's why the slow response. He wasn't out there on some covert mission.
For the upteenth time, we know he wasn't special forces. But the mission probably was covert. We don't know what his role was.
Anonymous
10/23/2017 15:31
Subject: Trump to widow of Sgt. La David Johnson: 'He knew what he signed up for'
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:+1
I don't want to hear another word about the petty take a knee given how this president is treating a gold star widow.
The troops were there due to ‘bring back our girls’ Michelle. Furthermore, this widow has no right to information that can compromise future missions and potentially get others killed. I understand she’s grieving but she’s being led to believe she has a right to this information. The media and Dems should stop using her.
STFU, moron. What was the Benghazi investigation all about?
Anonymous
10/23/2017 14:30
Subject: Trump to widow of Sgt. La David Johnson: 'He knew what he signed up for'
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The modern odds of any US servicemember being killed in action are incredibly low. No one signs up for the military with the expectation that he has a good chance of dying. The odds are incredibly low.
That's true, but it is not true of special forces such as green berets.
He wasn't a green beret...
Group Support Command. Would it have been 3rd GSC? He was a mechanic and was probably a driver for the team that day. But that's just an assumption on my part.
I'm aware of that he was not green beret. But he was taking part in a green beret operation. I guess one must be very explicit when posting here.
But did he sign up to take part in a green beret operation? Did he really know what he was getting himself into?
Absolutely. The military does not spring special forces operations on unsuspecting troops.
Well they kind of do. Anyone can be assigned to the support command if they need that MOS. The Army just puts you where they need you. My spouse was in a GSC Signal detachment and had no idea what the unit even was until he looked it up. He loved it and enjoyed his time there, but he that was just where he PCSed to.
That's a completely different situation. That was not a special forces operation.
He wasn't special forces though. He was a mechanic, attached to a team, probably driving for them. They weren't expecting any "trouble", that's why the slow response. He wasn't out there on some covert mission.