Anonymous
Post 08/14/2017 05:11     Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How many times have Americans said "the moderate Muslims need to be vocal in denouncing <event x>?"

Well, now is the time for Americans to stand up and denounce this event.

If you aren't opposed to it then you are part of the problem.

How do you want to be judged by your grandchildren?


I agree with you. I condemn this event. However, how many times did liberals say moderate Muslims did not have a responsibility to be vocal? I can't believe you typed the above with a straight face.


Probably some broken analogies there. Islam has no central leadership, and different factions define it however they please mixing in tribal beliefs and other non-Islamic teachings, whereas the GOP has central leadership in the RNC and its state/local groups, and it decides and defines what the party platform is and therefore can indeed make a global statement.


The RNC has as much to do with white supremacist fringe groups as the DNC. Why don't you call for both organizations to issue statements?


I am not pp, but this group literally advertised their presence as "Unite the right" and "alt-right." They are taking and using the "right" branch of our political system, IN YOUR NAME. What Trump and the GOP need to do is explicitly denounce them.

Say they do not want their support, at all.
Say they do not represent the GOP or Republicans or the Right.
Say they don't want their votes.
Explicitly say that these Nazis and white supremacists are wrong, amoral, terrorists, and are not welcome in their party, and that the values of the alt.right do not represent American values.

I am failing to understand why Trump and many Republicans find so hard about clearly and objectively denouncing groups operating IN THEIR NAME. If they don't want that support, then say it clearly and repeatedly. Why aren't they doing this?



Because they want the support of these heathens. The GOP is power and partisanship over country and integrity. The party has fallen and is pulling the country down with it. They don't denounce these groups unequivocally because they want these groups to keep voting for them. Period. Not more complicated than that.


There really is no other explanation. And if it isn't, the they need to be completely explicit about denouncing these specific people and their stated beliefs. Not some BS broad & vague "we denounce the violence" or "we denounce hatred" and "we just want people to come together."

Call it out for what it is. They're actually calling themselves part of "the right" and they don't represent the party? Clearly say so.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2017 05:00     Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
I need to quit reading this forum. I teach your kids and it is so hard to give everyone the benefit of the doubt when I see the kind of gibberish they are picking up at home. You're denying facts (second degree murder charge) and video at this point. You're shameful and disgusting. A woman died and you will twist yourselves every way possible to excuse the terrorist who did it.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2017 04:45     Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How many times have Americans said "the moderate Muslims need to be vocal in denouncing <event x>?"

Well, now is the time for Americans to stand up and denounce this event.

If you aren't opposed to it then you are part of the problem.

How do you want to be judged by your grandchildren?


I agree with you. I condemn this event. However, how many times did liberals say moderate Muslims did not have a responsibility to be vocal? I can't believe you typed the above with a straight face.


Probably some broken analogies there. Islam has no central leadership, and different factions define it however they please mixing in tribal beliefs and other non-Islamic teachings, whereas the GOP has central leadership in the RNC and its state/local groups, and it decides and defines what the party platform is and therefore can indeed make a global statement.


The RNC has as much to do with white supremacist fringe groups as the DNC. Why don't you call for both organizations to issue statements?


I am not pp, but this group literally advertised their presence as "Unite the right" and "alt-right." They are taking and using the "right" branch of our political system, IN YOUR NAME. What Trump and the GOP need to do is explicitly denounce them.

Say they do not want their support, at all.
Say they do not represent the GOP or Republicans or the Right.
Say they don't want their votes.
Explicitly say that these Nazis and white supremacists are wrong, amoral, terrorists, and are not welcome in their party, and that the values of the alt.right do not represent American values.

I am failing to understand why Trump and many Republicans find so hard about clearly and objectively denouncing groups operating IN THEIR NAME. If they don't want that support, then say it clearly and repeatedly. Why aren't they doing this?



Because they want the support of these heathens. The GOP is power and partisanship over country and integrity. The party has fallen and is pulling the country down with it. They don't denounce these groups unequivocally because they want these groups to keep voting for them. Period. Not more complicated than that.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2017 04:36     Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How many times have Americans said "the moderate Muslims need to be vocal in denouncing <event x>?"

Well, now is the time for Americans to stand up and denounce this event.

If you aren't opposed to it then you are part of the problem.

How do you want to be judged by your grandchildren?


I agree with you. I condemn this event. However, how many times did liberals say moderate Muslims did not have a responsibility to be vocal? I can't believe you typed the above with a straight face.


Probably some broken analogies there. Islam has no central leadership, and different factions define it however they please mixing in tribal beliefs and other non-Islamic teachings, whereas the GOP has central leadership in the RNC and its state/local groups, and it decides and defines what the party platform is and therefore can indeed make a global statement.


The RNC has as much to do with white supremacist fringe groups as the DNC. Why don't you call for both organizations to issue statements?


I am not pp, but this group literally advertised their presence as "Unite the right" and "alt-right." They are taking and using the "right" branch of our political system, IN YOUR NAME. What Trump and the GOP need to do is explicitly denounce them.

Say they do not want their support, at all.
Say they do not represent the GOP or Republicans or the Right.
Say they don't want their votes.
Explicitly say that these Nazis and white supremacists are wrong, amoral, terrorists, and are not welcome in their party, and that the values of the alt.right do not represent American values.

I am failing to understand why Trump and many Republicans find so hard about clearly and objectively denouncing groups operating IN THEIR NAME. If they don't want that support, then say it clearly and repeatedly. Why aren't they doing this?

Anonymous
Post 08/14/2017 02:33     Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How many times have Americans said "the moderate Muslims need to be vocal in denouncing <event x>?"

Well, now is the time for Americans to stand up and denounce this event.

If you aren't opposed to it then you are part of the problem.

How do you want to be judged by your grandchildren?


I agree with you. I condemn this event. However, how many times did liberals say moderate Muslims did not have a responsibility to be vocal? I can't believe you typed the above with a straight face.


Probably some broken analogies there. Islam has no central leadership, and different factions define it however they please mixing in tribal beliefs and other non-Islamic teachings, whereas the GOP has central leadership in the RNC and its state/local groups, and it decides and defines what the party platform is and therefore can indeed make a global statement.


The RNC has as much to do with white supremacist fringe groups as the DNC. Why don't you call for both organizations to issue statements?
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2017 02:14     Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How many times have Americans said "the moderate Muslims need to be vocal in denouncing <event x>?"

Well, now is the time for Americans to stand up and denounce this event.

If you aren't opposed to it then you are part of the problem.

How do you want to be judged by your grandchildren?


I agree with you. I condemn this event. However, how many times did liberals say moderate Muslims did not have a responsibility to be vocal? I can't believe you typed the above with a straight face.


Probably some broken analogies there. Islam has no central leadership, and different factions define it however they please mixing in tribal beliefs and other non-Islamic teachings, whereas the GOP has central leadership in the RNC and its state/local groups, and it decides and defines what the party platform is and therefore can indeed make a global statement.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2017 01:46     Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
Anonymous wrote:How many times have Americans said "the moderate Muslims need to be vocal in denouncing <event x>?"

Well, now is the time for Americans to stand up and denounce this event.

If you aren't opposed to it then you are part of the problem.

How do you want to be judged by your grandchildren?


I agree with you. I condemn this event. However, how many times did liberals say moderate Muslims did not have a responsibility to be vocal? I can't believe you typed the above with a straight face.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2017 00:37     Subject: Re:Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
More vicious and violent racist alt-right darlings here:



Beating a black man in a parking garage in Charlottesville with sticks and clubs.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2017 00:02     Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
Anonymous wrote:Assailants of Deadre Harris are being identified via twitter. I cannot properly describe how sick the photos and video of his attack make me feel. Several witnesses heard the attackers say "die n***er" as they beat him with metal poles.

In 2017, in our society in our country, this cannot happen to anyone. This is hate crime. DOJ had better step in. And if you aren't concerned or troubled that a 20 year old black man was beaten by white separatist already bearing those metal poles and using that language, then there is no hope for anyone having any protection whatsoever. If other people had not intervened I have no doubt they would have killed him.

https://twitter.com/ShaunKing/status/896867461542412288



Love this. Hope they catch all of those sick mf-ers.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2017 22:43     Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
Assailants of Deadre Harris are being identified via twitter. I cannot properly describe how sick the photos and video of his attack make me feel. Several witnesses heard the attackers say "die n***er" as they beat him with metal poles.

In 2017, in our society in our country, this cannot happen to anyone. This is hate crime. DOJ had better step in. And if you aren't concerned or troubled that a 20 year old black man was beaten by white separatist already bearing those metal poles and using that language, then there is no hope for anyone having any protection whatsoever. If other people had not intervened I have no doubt they would have killed him.

https://twitter.com/ShaunKing/status/896867461542412288
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2017 22:38     Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This story and photo will haunt me. It's 2017. 8 staples in his head, a broken wrist and chipped tooth. No one arrested. All these people standing around watching. WTF!


http://www.theroot.com/interview-20-year-old-deandre-harris-speaks-out-about-1797796038/amp


How about the young woman killed by the car? Did she haunt you?


Yes, she does, as well as the two state troopers. Whatever you are trying to insinuate, it's not working.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2017 22:34     Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The argument Antifa has as much of a right as the KKK is on point without a doubt. It is only by the grace of God they haven't murdered anyone yet.

Antifa are a political terrorist group also.


Anti-fascist fighters? They were your grand parents in WWII.


They were. However, with the proliferation of denying freedom of speech of the right, they arguably have become the fascists they so despise.


Wrong.

And stop with the crap about the right being denied their freedom of speech. The state has not taken down breitbart or daily stormer nor arrested or killed anyone involved in those rags just because of the dreck they publish. The Nazis arrested and killed people for speaking out. You want to see what denying freedom of speech is really like? Read some history books. Here's an article about the suppression of the press in the Third Reich. This is the fascism our grandparents fought against: https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007655

Anonymous
Post 08/13/2017 22:25     Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am getting tired of the false equivalence of the "Black Lives Matter" movement, which grew out of police murdering African-Americans and the Neo-Nazi's who are fighting for hatred and a return to Jim Crow era America.


Yep, taking about whiny little bitches who have no idea what true injustice is.


This, a million times this.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2017 22:25     Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Complete lunacy for anyone to have gone out to that event. You obviously can't count on McAuliffe to allow the cops to protect you. Sad.


You and your moron of a president should take some responsibility as well. Total free loader, always expect other people to do the job.

Do you normally carry a weapon to protect yourself from crazy haters?
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2017 22:12     Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
Anonymous wrote:Some of you alt-leftists here are so full of hate, all you see is red... like a bull. Your hate will take you to an early grave.


I have fascists, you are welcome to try fit the bill.