Anonymous
Post 04/11/2017 16:58     Subject: Re:Don't fly United
It shows you that a CEO of a major corporation can be really dumb to the point of being idiotic to have issued that sort of mindless statement that he made initially.

The board ought to fire this jackass.

Anonymous
Post 04/11/2017 16:55     Subject: Re:Don't fly United
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I cannot find a contractual definition for when a passenger's "boarding" is complete. Please post if you see this definition.


I'm on my phone. But essentially a "boarded" passenger is an "enplaned" passenger. This is used to calculate revenue miles and fees (airport, FAA and IATA among others). You don't count passengers as boarded or enplaned until such time as they cannot get off. That happens when the door closes.


Who cares about your fucking terminology. Boarded, emplaned, door closed my shit. As an average passenger, all I know is when my ticket is confirmed my seat is confirmed.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2017 16:50     Subject: Re:Don't fly United
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:United stock almost back to where it opened this morning:
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/UAL?p=UAL

Place your bets on whether passenger revenue will actually decline due to this incident. My bet is people will have forgotten about this in a week's time. Well know next month when they release passenger numbers.


I think their next earnings report will be down. I know the American public has the attention span of a flea, but this issue is bigger than they realize and won't go away quickly. I'm a former frequent flyer who had status on United, and this episode has gotten under my skin in a way nothing else has in recent memory. I have 200k miles I had planned to see about using on a trip with my family, but now I'm just going to cash them out, cancel my United credit card, and close that chapter of my life. They'll probably survive, but they'll have some rough times ahead. Munoz will be fired, mark my words.


I am with you on this. Just disgusted with their behavior and belligerence after the fact.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2017 16:43     Subject: Don't fly United
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This should have been the statement yesterday, not today. Love the self serving line "it's never too late to do the right thing". Please.


Please. We need to reaccomodate him.

I believe his first statement more.


Yes, he's hoping the people would reaccomodate his new statement.

Reaccomodate himmout of his job and office.


This and this alone before I fly United again. That incompetent prick Munoz has to go.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2017 16:41     Subject: Re:Don't fly United
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

It wasn't an Involuntary Denied Boarding. He had ALREADY boarded. It was an involuntary de-boarding.


You are incorrect. A passenger is not officially boarded until the aircraft door is shut. Please stop spreading misinformation.


Please go f yourself.


Why? Don't like reality? I'm honestly confused at the hate here. Please go research these things.


You are confused because you are a sheep. Most of us, when told by the authorities to do something that is clearly wrong, refuse. Maybe it was legal for united to do this, but none the less it was clearly wrong. If there are laws that allow that, those laws are bad. Did you never read Thoreau? If not, are you a US citizen?
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2017 16:36     Subject: Don't fly United
Anonymous wrote:I wonder how much info the CEO had to write this letter to his employees initially:

This situation was unfortunately compounded when one of the passengers we politely asked to deplane refused, and it became necessary to contact Chicago Aviation Security Officers to help," the letter says. "While I deeply regret this situation arose, I also emphatically stand behind all of you, and I want to commend you for continuing to go above and beyond to ensure we fly right."

After blaming the victim, he is now apologizing again trying to do damage control. I am guessing his executives or the ones who briefed him and suggested the language in the first letter are in de*p shit.


politely asking somebody to deplane is kind of like politely asking them to stick pins in their eyes
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2017 16:26     Subject: Don't fly United
I wonder how much info the CEO had to write this letter to his employees initially:

This situation was unfortunately compounded when one of the passengers we politely asked to deplane refused, and it became necessary to contact Chicago Aviation Security Officers to help," the letter says. "While I deeply regret this situation arose, I also emphatically stand behind all of you, and I want to commend you for continuing to go above and beyond to ensure we fly right."

After blaming the victim, he is now apologizing again trying to do damage control. I am guessing his executives or the ones who briefed him and suggested the language in the first letter are in de*p shit.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2017 16:24     Subject: Re:Don't fly United
Anonymous wrote:United stock almost back to where it opened this morning:
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/UAL?p=UAL

Place your bets on whether passenger revenue will actually decline due to this incident. My bet is people will have forgotten about this in a week's time. Well know next month when they release passenger numbers.


his second statement today says it all.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2017 15:50     Subject: Don't fly United
it has already been clarified and admitted by United that the flight was NOT overbooked. They made the claim yesterday and then backed away from it.

Does United fly out of Midway airport? You know there is more than one airport in Chicago, like here in the DMV. I put real money there had to be an alternative flight out of midway, even if on another airline (since previous posters have pointed out the only one out of OHare had already left at that point). Don't airlines have agreements with one another where their flight attendants can fly on other airlines, some sort of reciprocity?

Anonymous
Post 04/11/2017 15:48     Subject: Re:Don't fly United
Anonymous wrote:United stock almost back to where it opened this morning:
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/UAL?p=UAL

Place your bets on whether passenger revenue will actually decline due to this incident. My bet is people will have forgotten about this in a week's time. Well know next month when they release passenger numbers.


I think their next earnings report will be down. I know the American public has the attention span of a flea, but this issue is bigger than they realize and won't go away quickly. I'm a former frequent flyer who had status on United, and this episode has gotten under my skin in a way nothing else has in recent memory. I have 200k miles I had planned to see about using on a trip with my family, but now I'm just going to cash them out, cancel my United credit card, and close that chapter of my life. They'll probably survive, but they'll have some rough times ahead. Munoz will be fired, mark my words.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2017 15:46     Subject: Don't fly United
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This should have been the statement yesterday, not today. Love the self serving line "it's never too late to do the right thing". Please.


Please. We need to reaccomodate him.

I believe his first statement more.


Yes, he's hoping the people would reaccomodate his new statement.

Reaccomodate himmout of his job and office.


https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/uniteds-real-mistake-173844672.html?.tsrc=fauxdal

I wonder when the media would actually clarify if this flight is actually considered "overbooked".
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2017 15:45     Subject: Don't fly United
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This should have been the statement yesterday, not today. Love the self serving line "it's never too late to do the right thing". Please.


Please. We need to reaccomodate him.

I believe his first statement more.


Yes, he's hoping the people would reaccomodate his new statement.

Reaccomodate himmout of his job and office.


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I wonder when the media would actually clarify if this flight is actually considered "overbooked".
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2017 15:41     Subject: Don't fly United
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This should have been the statement yesterday, not today. Love the self serving line "it's never too late to do the right thing". Please.


Please. We need to reaccomodate him.

I believe his first statement more.


Yes, he's hoping the people would reaccomodate his new statement.

Reaccomodate himmout of his job and office.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2017 15:41     Subject: Re:Don't fly United
United stock almost back to where it opened this morning:
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/UAL?p=UAL

Place your bets on whether passenger revenue will actually decline due to this incident. My bet is people will have forgotten about this in a week's time. Well know next month when they release passenger numbers.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2017 15:40     Subject: Don't fly United
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This should have been the statement yesterday, not today. Love the self serving line "it's never too late to do the right thing". Please.


Please. We need to reaccomodate him.

I believe his first statement more.


Yes, he's hoping the people would reaccomodate his new statement.