Anonymous
Post 09/14/2016 11:15     Subject: Re:Who did you think killed JonBenet?

Anonymous wrote:He did bring duct tape, rope, and perhaps a stun gun. Those are things you would bring to kidnap someone and take them to another location. I think the killer realized he would not be able to get her out of the house. So he wrote the elaborate note and put it on the stairs to keep the parents from searching the house and because he was all worked up he could not help himself and ramble on in that crazy note and directly taunt John. He then went to the furthest corner of the house and acted out his fantasy of assaulting her and strangling her. He used the rope he brought to strangle her and grabbed the paint brush and broke it in half. He used one half on her neck and the other he assaulted her with and took it as a souvenir. I think he would have brought his own flashlight such as a big black mag light and that is what he struck her in the head with. I think the bat and flashlight found at the Ramsey home were just ordinary objects lying around their house. Any home invader breaking into a dark house would bring a flash light.


Why would he have the time and opportunity to write a ransom note while inside the home but not the time and opportunity to remove her from the house?
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2016 11:14     Subject: Who did you think killed JonBenet?

I'm surprised a young beautiful, educated Patsy married a man so much older with an ex wife and three kids.

I mean, if she cared about images, why marry him?
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2016 11:14     Subject: Re:Who did you think killed JonBenet?

The police could not find a roll of duct tape. It would be hard for a killer just to carry a piece of duct tape in his pocket. You know how duct tape is. You take off a piece it gets all stuck together. A roll would have to have been found. None was found. No one is sure if a stun gun was used or not that is true. But the item used to smash he skull was not found and a flashlight is a likely weapon.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2016 11:12     Subject: Who did you think killed JonBenet?

Anyone know how wealthy the Ramsey's were?
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2016 11:12     Subject: Re:Who did you think killed JonBenet?

Anonymous wrote:The Ramseys had a party on the 23rd. People brought food. The housekeeper helped with the party. Patsy would not know every single food item brought in and out of that house during the busy holidays. After the murder she was on tranquilizers and distraught about her daughter. She could not remember how the pineapple got there.

I agree.when I buy tons of food for parties, I don't remember every single item I bought,
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2016 11:11     Subject: Who did you think killed JonBenet?

Where did you read that she gained weight during cancer treatment? You are guessing and assuming.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2016 11:10     Subject: Re:Who did you think killed JonBenet?

The Ramseys had a party on the 23rd. People brought food. The housekeeper helped with the party. Patsy would not know every single food item brought in and out of that house during the busy holidays. After the murder she was on tranquilizers and distraught about her daughter. She could not remember how the pineapple got there.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2016 11:10     Subject: Who did you think killed JonBenet?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You can about bet that Patsy Ramsy had a small department store worth of clothes to choose from in her closet. Why would she put on dirty clothes from the day before?


How do you know the clothes were dirty?
Also, I have TONS of clothes. My closet is huge 16 x 8. It's full of clothes. Unfortunately, I use only 10% of my closest due to weight gain. Patsy was heavy too. So, maybe she did wear a few items over and over, I do.


It didn't sound like Patsy was the type to wear an outfit twice. She worried about things like having matching outfits with JonBenet and even bought JonBenet a doll for Christmas that had matching clothes.

Think about the pageants and all the focus on fashion. Patsy was not the type to just roll out of bed with a full face of makeup and the clothes from the night before. I'm just not seeing her of all people doing that.


But if she was so vain, why was she overweight? Why didn't she exercise?
What did you read that made you think she wasn't the type to wear an outfit twice?
She was leaving early for vacation, grabbing that outfit was easy. She wasn't going to see the people that saw her wear that outfit the day before.


She had undergone treatment for ovarian cancer in the years leading up to this. She put on some weight during the process. But she still kept to her normal makeup, hair, clothes. She was a former beauty queen herself who still was very much in the pageant world via JonBenet. She cared about impressions.

Anonymous
Post 09/14/2016 11:07     Subject: Re:Who did you think killed JonBenet?

Anonymous wrote:He did bring duct tape, rope, and perhaps a stun gun. Those are things you would bring to kidnap someone and take them to another location. I think the killer realized he would not be able to get her out of the house. So he wrote the elaborate note and put it on the stairs to keep the parents from searching the house and because he was all worked up he could not help himself and ramble on in that crazy note and directly taunt John. He then went to the furthest corner of the house and acted out his fantasy of assaulting her and strangling her. He used the rope he brought to strangle her and grabbed the paint brush and broke it in half. He used one half on her neck and the other he assaulted her with and took it as a souvenir. I think he would have brought his own flashlight such as a big black mag light and that is what he struck her in the head with. I think the bat and flashlight found at the Ramsey home were just ordinary objects lying around their house. Any home invader breaking into a dark house would bring a flash light.


There's no proof anything used to kill her was brought in from outside the house. There's no proof a stun gun was used.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2016 11:06     Subject: Who did you think killed JonBenet?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also, if Santa guy snuck into their house to "visit" JonBenet, woke her up quietly and got her to eat a snack of pineapple...you think that he would be wearing a ski mask? Wouldn't a strange person in a ski mask freak a little kid out?

Bottom line is - the Ramseys said that JonBenet fell asleep in the car and that Patsy her to bed.

We know from the pineapple that JonBenet was awake at some point AFTER arriving home. This idea that a sex predator would set up a little tea party with a snack of pineapple for JonBenet is ridiculous.




JB was asleep in the car when John put her to bed. Then he sent Patsy to help her get ready for bed. This would have woken her up. After Patsy left the room she went upstairs to the third floor. Burke went downstairs because he wanted to play with a toy. His dad heard him and went to stay with him. Perhaps unbeknownst to the parents JB now in bed and wondering what she missed out on after falling asleep in the car went down stairs. She would have gone to kitchen first. Maybe she peeked to the next room and saw it was just her brother and dad playing with a toy. She knew she was supposed to be in bed so she grabbed a few pieces of pineapple from the bowl on the counter by just touching the pineapple not the bowl and then went back to bed. Burke could have gotten the pineapple out when he came down to play with the toy. He remembers playing with the toy but not eating the pineapple. He said in his interview with Dr. Phil he can't remember what he ate 20 years ago. I think he got the bowl out before he played with the toy. John came in after and did not know Burke had put the bowl on the counter. None of them knew that JB had snuck downstairs for a minute just to make sure she wasn't missing anything. Kids go to the refrigerator or cabinet all the time and get something to eat. I find my kids making toast downstairs after I think they are in bed. No big deal. I don't think Santa had a tea party with JB. Also when you put one kid to bed and the other one is still up the first kid often gets back up because the sibling is up. how many times do parents carry sleeping kids or babies from a car and put them to bed and they are back up? About 50% of the time in my house. I think the pineapple was a red herring. It was an ordinary bowl of pineapple that 2 kids helped themselves to before bed without the parents knowing. I think that red herring stumped the entire police force.


The pineapple is significant simply because the parents deny any knowledge of it at all. Patsy couldn't remember if she had bought it from the store. You wouldn't buy fresh cut pineapple from the store more than a week before you actually used it. Why on earth would she not remember at least buying the stuff and having it in her refrigerator?

If she was planning to use the pineapple on pancakes during Christmas breakfast - of course she would remember picking it up from the store. It's just the mundane little details like this that make the pineapple significant. She either did or didn't buy any that week - which is it? She's lying about the pineapple. Why?

If someone showed me some random item from my pantry bought within the past year I can about guarantee you that I would remember buying it and probably from which store and whether or not it was on sale when I bought it. I think that most of us can say they same thing.



What type of pineapple was it - fresh? Cut? Sliced? If she didn't buy it did she cut it? Did the housekeeper or John?

Was it removed from the refrigerator? Also, the iced tea glass only had Patsy's fingerprints, correct? Could she have taken it out and mistakenly put t in the decorative bowl? Maybe she was tired from the night before or had a drink or two?
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2016 11:05     Subject: Who did you think killed JonBenet?

Why wouldn't a pedophile remove her from the house? He could have more opportunity to abuse her if he left the home with her.

Also, why would he leave a ransom note along with her body? What would be the point of that from his perspective?
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2016 11:04     Subject: Re:Who did you think killed JonBenet?

He did bring duct tape, rope, and perhaps a stun gun. Those are things you would bring to kidnap someone and take them to another location. I think the killer realized he would not be able to get her out of the house. So he wrote the elaborate note and put it on the stairs to keep the parents from searching the house and because he was all worked up he could not help himself and ramble on in that crazy note and directly taunt John. He then went to the furthest corner of the house and acted out his fantasy of assaulting her and strangling her. He used the rope he brought to strangle her and grabbed the paint brush and broke it in half. He used one half on her neck and the other he assaulted her with and took it as a souvenir. I think he would have brought his own flashlight such as a big black mag light and that is what he struck her in the head with. I think the bat and flashlight found at the Ramsey home were just ordinary objects lying around their house. Any home invader breaking into a dark house would bring a flash light.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2016 11:03     Subject: Who did you think killed JonBenet?

What was the toy that John said he was helping Burke with before he took Burke to bed?
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2016 11:02     Subject: Who did you think killed JonBenet?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also, if Santa guy snuck into their house to "visit" JonBenet, woke her up quietly and got her to eat a snack of pineapple...you think that he would be wearing a ski mask? Wouldn't a strange person in a ski mask freak a little kid out?

Bottom line is - the Ramseys said that JonBenet fell asleep in the car and that Patsy her to bed.

We know from the pineapple that JonBenet was awake at some point AFTER arriving home. This idea that a sex predator would set up a little tea party with a snack of pineapple for JonBenet is ridiculous.




JB was asleep in the car when John put her to bed. Then he sent Patsy to help her get ready for bed. This would have woken her up. After Patsy left the room she went upstairs to the third floor. Burke went downstairs because he wanted to play with a toy. His dad heard him and went to stay with him. Perhaps unbeknownst to the parents JB now in bed and wondering what she missed out on after falling asleep in the car went down stairs. She would have gone to kitchen first. Maybe she peeked to the next room and saw it was just her brother and dad playing with a toy. She knew she was supposed to be in bed so she grabbed a few pieces of pineapple from the bowl on the counter by just touching the pineapple not the bowl and then went back to bed. Burke could have gotten the pineapple out when he came down to play with the toy. He remembers playing with the toy but not eating the pineapple. He said in his interview with Dr. Phil he can't remember what he ate 20 years ago. I think he got the bowl out before he played with the toy. John came in after and did not know Burke had put the bowl on the counter. None of them knew that JB had snuck downstairs for a minute just to make sure she wasn't missing anything. Kids go to the refrigerator or cabinet all the time and get something to eat. I find my kids making toast downstairs after I think they are in bed. No big deal. I don't think Santa had a tea party with JB. Also when you put one kid to bed and the other one is still up the first kid often gets back up because the sibling is up. how many times do parents carry sleeping kids or babies from a car and put them to bed and they are back up? About 50% of the time in my house. I think the pineapple was a red herring. It was an ordinary bowl of pineapple that 2 kids helped themselves to before bed without the parents knowing. I think that red herring stumped the entire police force.


The pineapple is significant simply because the parents deny any knowledge of it at all. Patsy couldn't remember if she had bought it from the store. You wouldn't buy fresh cut pineapple from the store more than a week before you actually used it. Why on earth would she not remember at least buying the stuff and having it in her refrigerator?

If she was planning to use the pineapple on pancakes during Christmas breakfast - of course she would remember picking it up from the store. It's just the mundane little details like this that make the pineapple significant. She either did or didn't buy any that week - which is it? She's lying about the pineapple. Why?

If someone showed me some random item from my pantry bought within the past year I can about guarantee you that I would remember buying it and probably from which store and whether or not it was on sale when I bought it. I think that most of us can say they same thing.

Anonymous
Post 09/14/2016 11:01     Subject: Who did you think killed JonBenet?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also, if Santa guy snuck into their house to "visit" JonBenet, woke her up quietly and got her to eat a snack of pineapple...you think that he would be wearing a ski mask? Wouldn't a strange person in a ski mask freak a little kid out?

Bottom line is - the Ramseys said that JonBenet fell asleep in the car and that Patsy her to bed.

We know from the pineapple that JonBenet was awake at some point AFTER arriving home. This idea that a sex predator would set up a little tea party with a snack of pineapple for JonBenet is ridiculous.




JB was asleep in the car when John put her to bed. Then he sent Patsy to help her get ready for bed. This would have woken her up. After Patsy left the room she went upstairs to the third floor. Burke went downstairs because he wanted to play with a toy. His dad heard him and went to stay with him. Perhaps unbeknownst to the parents JB now in bed and wondering what she missed out on after falling asleep in the car went down stairs. She would have gone to kitchen first. Maybe she peeked to the next room and saw it was just her brother and dad playing with a toy. She knew she was supposed to be in bed so she grabbed a few pieces of pineapple from the bowl on the counter by just touching the pineapple not the bowl and then went back to bed. Burke could have gotten the pineapple out when he came down to play with the toy. He remembers playing with the toy but not eating the pineapple. He said in his interview with Dr. Phil he can't remember what he ate 20 years ago. I think he got the bowl out before he played with the toy. John came in after and did not know Burke had put the bowl on the counter. None of them knew that JB had snuck downstairs for a minute just to make sure she wasn't missing anything. Kids go to the refrigerator or cabinet all the time and get something to eat. I find my kids making toast downstairs after I think they are in bed. No big deal. I don't think Santa had a tea party with JB. Also when you put one kid to bed and the other one is still up the first kid often gets back up because the sibling is up. how many times do parents carry sleeping kids or babies from a car and put them to bed and they are back up? About 50% of the time in my house. I think the pineapple was a red herring. It was an ordinary bowl of pineapple that 2 kids helped themselves to before bed without the parents knowing. I think that red herring stumped the entire police force.


I think you could be right. It's certainly a possibility. My kids used to come down a lot and eat after we thought they were in bed. I bet JB did hear noise from downstairs and went down to see, then saw the pineapple sitting out on the table, took a few bites and went back up to bed. That is not a crazy idea.