Anonymous wrote:Interview with another family says they were chased by an alligator at Disney in April.

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Anonymous wrote:even a fence won't contain these beasts

Scary shit.

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Anonymous wrote:Look, even if the kid was snatched by a gator inside a grocery store, the assholes in this thread would find a way to blame the parents.

TRUTH.

Kid shouldn't have been in the grocery store at 9pm.

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"asked a great question, but unfortunately guests are asked to refrain from swimming in the Seven Seas Lagoon. There's a lot of boat traffic near the shoreline, so it's not very safe."

I also looked at the personal safety portion of the Disney site. Nothing indicated alligators anywhere.

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I'm from Georgia, not Orlando. My point was EVEN PEOPLE NOT FROM FLORIDA know to not go near brackish water like that. In Florida. I'm sure I could similarly detect a not safe environment in Nebraska because shit that's not safe doesn't look safe!

You're local to gator country, that was my point. And no, you won't "detect" an unsafe environment that is beyond your experience. Don't kid yourself.

I've been trekking in the Himalayas, not local to my indigenous habitats. And could tell when a particular rock face looked not so stable for climbing. And I didn't climb. Hey those hot springs at Yellowstone sure are pretty but you can tell you shouldn't be in them! The brain has these awesome alert systems that detect danger! I think someone upthreead nailed it; people in Nebraska would not go in that water anywhere else in Florida but in the Magic Kingdom people seriously seem to think they're in a magical land with no real world intrusions or worries.

That is what Disney wants you to believe. If there are dangerous alligators in those lagoons so close to small children then Disney should warn people and not just invite them down for fireworks.

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We stayed at the Polynesian a few years ago. It's on the same lagoon and everyone was swimming, in broad daylight and full view of Disney employees. I didn't see it as a natural body of water at all -- I thought it was a fake lagoon the way everything else at Disney is fake. This family will win and win big.

Yeah, this is a piece of the puzzle that hasn't really been reported on but was suggested by the presence of the lifeguard. If indeed Disney de facto allowed swimming all day, you can see why the parents would interpret the signs not to forbid wading - and/or think that the animating concern behind the sign was risk of drowning, not fear of being eaten.

Many have explained the lifeguard was at the pool, nearby but not right there and not responsible for the shoreline.

When we visited there were tons of people in the water -- no warning not to be.

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Anonymous wrote:Look, even if the kid was snatched by a gator inside a grocery store, the assholes in this thread would find a way to blame the parents.

TRUTH.

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I'm from Georgia, not Orlando. My point was EVEN PEOPLE NOT FROM FLORIDA know to not go near brackish water like that. In Florida. I'm sure I could similarly detect a not safe environment in Nebraska because shit that's not safe doesn't look safe!

You're local to gator country, that was my point. And no, you won't "detect" an unsafe environment that is beyond your experience. Don't kid yourself.

I've been trekking in the Himalayas, not local to my indigenous habitats. And could tell when a particular rock face looked not so stable for climbing. And I didn't climb. Hey those hot springs at Yellowstone sure are pretty but you can tell you shouldn't be in them! The brain has these awesome alert systems that detect danger! I think someone upthreead nailed it; people in Nebraska would not go in that water anywhere else in Florida but in the Magic Kingdom people seriously seem to think they're in a magical land with no real world intrusions or worries.

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We stayed at the Polynesian a few years ago. It's on the same lagoon and everyone was swimming, in broad daylight and full view of Disney employees. I didn't see it as a natural body of water at all -- I thought it was a fake lagoon the way everything else at Disney is fake. This family will win and win big.

Yeah, this is a piece of the puzzle that hasn't really been reported on but was suggested by the presence of the lifeguard. If indeed Disney de facto allowed swimming all day, you can see why the parents would interpret the signs not to forbid wading - and/or think that the animating concern behind the sign was risk of drowning, not fear of being eaten.

I saw a picture on the Daily Mail of the Polynesian with the Grand Floridian across the "lagoon." There was a sandy beach with beach chairs along the lagoon. Is that how it was?

Anonymous wrote:Well, don't make man-made lagoons and put a beach and resort next to it and encourage people to play in the sand and have cabanas. It is a "freak accident" in many ways, but Disney puts people at risk by building the resorts the way that they do. Yes, you can't expect to keep alligators completely out of populated areas, but creating additional shore lines and food sources are not a good start.

This kid didn't actually need to be in the water to have been snatched. It is a horrific way to die, and my heart goes out to that poor traumatized family as well as anyone who may have witnessed it.

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Anonymous wrote:Look, even if the kid was snatched by a gator inside a grocery store, the assholes in this thread would find a way to blame the parents.

TRUTH.