Anonymous
08/29/2016 09:42
Subject: Re:IAC Lacrosse
There was a strong IAC player presence at the DC Express tryouts this past weekend. Just sayin.
Anonymous
08/28/2016 12:23
Subject: IAC Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If there are between 66 and 72 freshmen slots at each NECSAC each year (I will assume this is reliable for the sake of the point), then how could it possibly be that about a dozen kids in the 2017 class alone self reported they 'committed' to Amherst or Williams on some LaxPower?!? One sport, one gender and 10 or more? I looked at that an howled. If anything LaxPower is just an outlet for needy kids to post something for attention.
Coaches at these schools can help boost an application. Without doubt that can carry as much weight as being a legacy. Uncoupled with an academic record that would pass admissions wouldn't be enough. In fairness, if kids have an excellent track record and a coach supports the admissions folder, that is a good thing. A sure thing? No.
Athletic slots at NESCACs are basically a non-contractual verbal admissions guarantee if the recruit agrees (in most cases) to apply early decision. The 66 to 72 slots are only B and C bands, typically 3-4 per team. Some teams get more slots than others based on institutional priorities at the specific school. There are also sports that don't really use slots or use very few, because the academic composition of those teams is higher than others. The recruits you see on Laxpower will all get into those schools, barring a major disaster in the fall of their senior year. Slotted Athletic recruits are pretty much guaranteed admission, while legacy applicants still must keep their fingers crossed.
+1 PP.
We are in the midst of this process right now. The coaches we've been dealing with have told us they get (depending on the school), 7-12 spots. My kid is a top recruit for a certain college and once he told the coach was willing to "commit" to applying early decision, the coach submitted his credentials (transcript, scores) for a pre-read to Admissions. Yes, this happens at the NESCACs and other highly selective schools. After the coach heard back from Admissions with their blessing, our son still has to officially apply, but barring some sort of disaster - failing a course in the first quarter, blowing off the application, or a run-in with the law - he is "in."
Anonymous
08/27/2016 18:16
Subject: Re:IAC Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:Heard Landon has a 2017 lacrosse player going to Amherst.
That is incorrect.
Anonymous
08/27/2016 16:45
Subject: IAC Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If there are between 66 and 72 freshmen slots at each NECSAC each year (I will assume this is reliable for the sake of the point), then how could it possibly be that about a dozen kids in the 2017 class alone self reported they 'committed' to Amherst or Williams on some LaxPower?!? One sport, one gender and 10 or more? I looked at that an howled. If anything LaxPower is just an outlet for needy kids to post something for attention.
Coaches at these schools can help boost an application. Without doubt that can carry as much weight as being a legacy. Uncoupled with an academic record that would pass admissions wouldn't be enough. In fairness, if kids have an excellent track record and a coach supports the admissions folder, that is a good thing. A sure thing? No.
Athletic slots at NESCACs are basically a non-contractual verbal admissions guarantee if the recruit agrees (in most cases) to apply early decision. The 66 to 72 slots are only B and C bands, typically 3-4 per team. Some teams get more slots than others based on institutional priorities at the specific school. There are also sports that don't really use slots or use very few, because the academic composition of those teams is higher than others. The recruits you see on Laxpower will all get into those schools, barring a major disaster in the fall of their senior year. Slotted Athletic recruits are pretty much guaranteed admission, while legacy applicants still must keep their fingers crossed.
Well-stated.
Anonymous
08/27/2016 16:07
Subject: IAC Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:If there are between 66 and 72 freshmen slots at each NECSAC each year (I will assume this is reliable for the sake of the point), then how could it possibly be that about a dozen kids in the 2017 class alone self reported they 'committed' to Amherst or Williams on some LaxPower?!? One sport, one gender and 10 or more? I looked at that an howled. If anything LaxPower is just an outlet for needy kids to post something for attention.
Coaches at these schools can help boost an application. Without doubt that can carry as much weight as being a legacy. Uncoupled with an academic record that would pass admissions wouldn't be enough. In fairness, if kids have an excellent track record and a coach supports the admissions folder, that is a good thing. A sure thing? No.
Athletic slots at NESCACs are basically a non-contractual verbal admissions guarantee if the recruit agrees (in most cases) to apply early decision. The 66 to 72 slots are only B and C bands, typically 3-4 per team. Some teams get more slots than others based on institutional priorities at the specific school. There are also sports that don't really use slots or use very few, because the academic composition of those teams is higher than others. The recruits you see on Laxpower will all get into those schools, barring a major disaster in the fall of their senior year. Slotted Athletic recruits are pretty much guaranteed admission, while legacy applicants still must keep their fingers crossed.
Anonymous
08/27/2016 15:52
Subject: IAC Lacrosse
If there are between 66 and 72 freshmen slots at each NECSAC each year (I will assume this is reliable for the sake of the point), then how could it possibly be that about a dozen kids in the 2017 class alone self reported they 'committed' to Amherst or Williams on some LaxPower?!? One sport, one gender and 10 or more? I looked at that an howled. If anything LaxPower is just an outlet for needy kids to post something for attention.
Coaches at these schools can help boost an application. Without doubt that can carry as much weight as being a legacy. Uncoupled with an academic record that would pass admissions wouldn't be enough. In fairness, if kids have an excellent track record and a coach supports the admissions folder, that is a good thing. A sure thing? No.
Coaches at these schools can help boost an application. Without doubt that can carry as much weight as being a legacy. Uncoupled with an academic record that would pass admissions wouldn't be enough. In fairness, if kids have an excellent track record and a coach supports the admissions folder, that is a good thing. A sure thing? No.
Anonymous
08/27/2016 15:08
Subject: Re:IAC Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Heard Landon has a 2017 lacrosse player going to Amherst.
NESCAC colleges a kid needs to apply to and be admitted based on academics. Those aren't schools where coach gets lax bros past admissions. Amherst is wonderful. Good luck to the kid who is applying.
Athletic recruitment absolutely occurs at NESCAC schools and can of course be a major hook for admissions. If anyone doubts this, ask your schools college counselor or read the Chronicle of Higher Education which is available online.
Other than that, it is a bit unseemly for anonymous people to be discussing a particular kid's college process (even those who mean well).
I'm not misinformed. I have a kid at a NECSAC now. The 'major hook' you describe is some major bullshit. Not a hater, but if a kid has a favored referral from a sports coach it can boost the balance of the application like having a sibling or other legacy or some other strong recommendation. But that's all it is. If a kid has strong academics and sports activities, of course that makes for a good application. But to sell it as 'being committed' to one of these schools, that's fairly foolish. I also think it's in particularly poor taste for daddy and mommy humble bragger to plant their kid's 'commitment' to a school like Amherst. I hope your kid doesn't come across as an entitled putz in the interview because he thinks lacrosse will get him in. Because that is pretty uninformed.
Each of the 11 NESCACS has between 66 and 72 freshman slots each year for athletes, although I'm not sure if this includes the 12 slots for football. A typical team might get three B-bands, who need a thumb on the scale from the coach, and one C-band game-changer, who needs two thumbs on the scale. The other 3 to 5 recruits per team have to qualify as A-bands, who would probably get in on their own, but need the coach basically to guarantee their admission. If the recruit agrees to apply early, these slots are handed out no earlier than July 1 before senior year.
Anonymous
08/27/2016 14:58
Subject: Re:IAC Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Heard Landon has a 2017 lacrosse player going to Amherst.
NESCAC colleges a kid needs to apply to and be admitted based on academics. Those aren't schools where coach gets lax bros past admissions. Amherst is wonderful. Good luck to the kid who is applying.
Athletic recruitment absolutely occurs at NESCAC schools and can of course be a major hook for admissions. If anyone doubts this, ask your schools college counselor or read the Chronicle of Higher Education which is available online.
Other than that, it is a bit unseemly for anonymous people to be discussing a particular kid's college process (even those who mean well).
I'm not misinformed. I have a kid at a NECSAC now. The 'major hook' you describe is some major bullshit. Not a hater, but if a kid has a favored referral from a sports coach it can boost the balance of the application like having a sibling or other legacy or some other strong recommendation. But that's all it is. If a kid has strong academics and sports activities, of course that makes for a good application. But to sell it as 'being committed' to one of these schools, that's fairly foolish. I also think it's in particularly poor taste for daddy and mommy humble bragger to plant their kid's 'commitment' to a school like Amherst. I hope your kid doesn't come across as an entitled putz in the interview because he thinks lacrosse will get him in. Because that is pretty uninformed.
Legacy status is a major hook; as is being a URM; as is being a recruited athlete. (Being a sibling is not a major hook, btw.) Being a recruited athlete is not a guarantee of admission, if that is what you are trying to say, and of course the academic profile plays a key role in who the coaches recruit and go to bat for with Admissions. In lacrosse at a place like Amherst, "committing" means the athlete is indicating his/her desire to attend (and generally shows this by applying early) and the coach is indicating that he/she will give that name to admissions as a member of that team's proposed recruiting class. In my experience with IAC and ISL athletes, that communication from the coach is worth a great deal indeed by way of upping chances.
Anonymous
08/27/2016 14:54
Subject: Re:IAC Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:PP
you sound like a bitter old fart.
NESCAC schools aggressively recruit for ALL SPORTS
Well, I only went to one and sit on the board and have had two kids go through...one does sports, the other does not. So what do I know?
Sports won't get you into a Little Ivy. Period.
Go to Laxpower and you can pull up dozens of NESCAC lax recruits from the class of 2017, some from this area.
Anonymous
08/27/2016 14:37
Subject: Re:IAC Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:PP
you sound like a bitter old fart.
NESCAC schools aggressively recruit for ALL SPORTS
Well, I only went to one and sit on the board and have had two kids go through...one does sports, the other does not. So what do I know?
Sports won't get you into a Little Ivy. Period.
Anonymous
08/27/2016 14:13
Subject: Re:IAC Lacrosse
PP
you sound like a bitter old fart.
NESCAC schools aggressively recruit for ALL SPORTS
you sound like a bitter old fart.
NESCAC schools aggressively recruit for ALL SPORTS
Anonymous
08/27/2016 14:04
Subject: Re:IAC Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Heard Landon has a 2017 lacrosse player going to Amherst.
NESCAC colleges a kid needs to apply to and be admitted based on academics. Those aren't schools where coach gets lax bros past admissions. Amherst is wonderful. Good luck to the kid who is applying.
Athletic recruitment absolutely occurs at NESCAC schools and can of course be a major hook for admissions. If anyone doubts this, ask your schools college counselor or read the Chronicle of Higher Education which is available online.
Other than that, it is a bit unseemly for anonymous people to be discussing a particular kid's college process (even those who mean well).
I'm not misinformed. I have a kid at a NECSAC now. The 'major hook' you describe is some major bullshit. Not a hater, but if a kid has a favored referral from a sports coach it can boost the balance of the application like having a sibling or other legacy or some other strong recommendation. But that's all it is. If a kid has strong academics and sports activities, of course that makes for a good application. But to sell it as 'being committed' to one of these schools, that's fairly foolish. I also think it's in particularly poor taste for daddy and mommy humble bragger to plant their kid's 'commitment' to a school like Amherst. I hope your kid doesn't come across as an entitled putz in the interview because he thinks lacrosse will get him in. Because that is pretty uninformed.
Anonymous
08/27/2016 13:33
Subject: Re:IAC Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Heard Landon has a 2017 lacrosse player going to Amherst.
NESCAC colleges a kid needs to apply to and be admitted based on academics. Those aren't schools where coach gets lax bros past admissions. Amherst is wonderful. Good luck to the kid who is applying.
Athletic recruitment absolutely occurs at NESCAC schools and can of course be a major hook for admissions. If anyone doubts this, ask your schools college counselor or read the Chronicle of Higher Education which is available online.
Other than that, it is a bit unseemly for anonymous people to be discussing a particular kid's college process (even those who mean well).
Anonymous
08/27/2016 12:17
Subject: Re:IAC Lacrosse
dont be a hater PP.
Just an FYI is he also a 3x all IAC Cross Country runner, plays ice hockey and just happens to play lacrosse.
Just an FYI is he also a 3x all IAC Cross Country runner, plays ice hockey and just happens to play lacrosse.
Anonymous
08/27/2016 12:06
Subject: Re:IAC Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:Heard Landon has a 2017 lacrosse player going to Amherst.
NESCAC colleges a kid needs to apply to and be admitted based on academics. Those aren't schools where coach gets lax bros past admissions. Amherst is wonderful. Good luck to the kid who is applying.