Anonymous
07/27/2015 22:16
Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wonder if Sam Ellis needed an alarm to help him stay out of trouble.
I'd be really pissed if that was his car/family car that he was driving in the accident. One alcohol violation, plus a fighting arrest, is enough to keep most parents from letting their kids have the keys. 18 or not.
Why would an adult tell their parents about an arrest.
They don't need to be told. Public to anyone who wants to search the court records. And when people have this much contact with the law, there is almost always ongoing issues with behavior in general. This stuff isn't a shock to anyone, I'm sure.
How often do you run your kids name in md court search, do you search every state they have visited?
You are ridiculous. The kid had an alcohol violation in the Fall of his senior year. That is not uncommon in MoCo. It was over 6 months later, you think he is still grounded.
You can hope and hope that his parents are to blame, then you can justify in your mind that since you are a superior parent nothing like this will ever happen to your family. But that is not how it works, no matter how much you wish it to be true.
It was March 15 for the first one and June 3 for the second one. Not last fall. That is WAY too much contact with police in a very short amount of time. And it should be a huge red flag to anyone with any common sense. But my underlying point is that when there is that much contact with police for a kid who is barely out of high school (and who knows if he's got a juvenile record or not), there are likely many more signs there that his behavior isn't on the up and up. And that's what parents need to be looking for. All of us.
Exactly. If we see our kid going down a bad path, you can encourage them to do better OR you cut the purse strings.
So your 18 yo adult child get in trouble for the 1st time less than 6 months before he moves out and you disown him?
Keep telling yourself you are a better parent, but you are not.
Anonymous
07/27/2015 21:48
Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death
Anonymous wrote:Alcohol didnt kill the kids, drink driving did.
Anonymous
07/27/2015 20:13
Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wonder if Sam Ellis needed an alarm to help him stay out of trouble.
I'd be really pissed if that was his car/family car that he was driving in the accident. One alcohol violation, plus a fighting arrest, is enough to keep most parents from letting their kids have the keys. 18 or not.
Why would an adult tell their parents about an arrest.
They don't need to be told. Public to anyone who wants to search the court records. And when people have this much contact with the law, there is almost always ongoing issues with behavior in general. This stuff isn't a shock to anyone, I'm sure.
How often do you run your kids name in md court search, do you search every state they have visited?
You are ridiculous. The kid had an alcohol violation in the Fall of his senior year. That is not uncommon in MoCo. It was over 6 months later, you think he is still grounded.
You can hope and hope that his parents are to blame, then you can justify in your mind that since you are a superior parent nothing like this will ever happen to your family. But that is not how it works, no matter how much you wish it to be true.
It was March 15 for the first one and June 3 for the second one. Not last fall. That is WAY too much contact with police in a very short amount of time. And it should be a huge red flag to anyone with any common sense. But my underlying point is that when there is that much contact with police for a kid who is barely out of high school (and who knows if he's got a juvenile record or not), there are likely many more signs there that his behavior isn't on the up and up. And that's what parents need to be looking for. All of us.
Exactly. If we see our kid going down a bad path, you can encourage them to do better OR you cut the purse strings.
Anonymous
07/27/2015 18:18
Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wonder if Sam Ellis needed an alarm to help him stay out of trouble.
I'd be really pissed if that was his car/family car that he was driving in the accident. One alcohol violation, plus a fighting arrest, is enough to keep most parents from letting their kids have the keys. 18 or not.
Why would an adult tell their parents about an arrest.
They don't need to be told. Public to anyone who wants to search the court records. And when people have this much contact with the law, there is almost always ongoing issues with behavior in general. This stuff isn't a shock to anyone, I'm sure.
How often do you run your kids name in md court search, do you search every state they have visited?
You are ridiculous. The kid had an alcohol violation in the Fall of his senior year. That is not uncommon in MoCo. It was over 6 months later, you think he is still grounded.
You can hope and hope that his parents are to blame, then you can justify in your mind that since you are a superior parent nothing like this will ever happen to your family. But that is not how it works, no matter how much you wish it to be true.
It was March 15 for the first one and June 3 for the second one. Not last fall. That is WAY too much contact with police in a very short amount of time. And it should be a huge red flag to anyone with any common sense. But my underlying point is that when there is that much contact with police for a kid who is barely out of high school (and who knows if he's got a juvenile record or not), there are likely many more signs there that his behavior isn't on the up and up. And that's what parents need to be looking for. All of us.
Anonymous
07/27/2015 17:36
Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wonder if Sam Ellis needed an alarm to help him stay out of trouble.
I'd be really pissed if that was his car/family car that he was driving in the accident. One alcohol violation, plus a fighting arrest, is enough to keep most parents from letting their kids have the keys. 18 or not.
Why would an adult tell their parents about an arrest.
They don't need to be told. Public to anyone who wants to search the court records. And when people have this much contact with the law, there is almost always ongoing issues with behavior in general. This stuff isn't a shock to anyone, I'm sure.
How often do you run your kids name in md court search, do you search every state they have visited?
You are ridiculous. The kid had an alcohol violation in the Fall of his senior year. That is not uncommon in MoCo. It was over 6 months later, you think he is still grounded.
You can hope and hope that his parents are to blame, then you can justify in your mind that since you are a superior parent nothing like this will ever happen to your family. But that is not how it works, no matter how much you wish it to be true.
Anonymous
07/27/2015 17:31
Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, you go fetch your runaway kid. The sheer embarrassment ought to cure that problem.
18 yo's cant run away
Do any of you have 18 yo adults or just 18 month old children
If he's 18, you let him go and change the locks. Done.
Goid luck with that.
Anonymous
07/27/2015 17:27
Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wonder if Sam Ellis needed an alarm to help him stay out of trouble.
I'd be really pissed if that was his car/family car that he was driving in the accident. One alcohol violation, plus a fighting arrest, is enough to keep most parents from letting their kids have the keys. 18 or not.
Why would an adult tell their parents about an arrest.
They don't need to be told. Public to anyone who wants to search the court records. And when people have this much contact with the law, there is almost always ongoing issues with behavior in general. This stuff isn't a shock to anyone, I'm sure.
Anonymous
07/27/2015 17:13
Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, you go fetch your runaway kid. The sheer embarrassment ought to cure that problem.
18 yo's cant run away
Do any of you have 18 yo adults or just 18 month old children
If he's 18, you let him go and change the locks. Done.
Anonymous
07/27/2015 17:09
Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wonder if Sam Ellis needed an alarm to help him stay out of trouble.
I'd be really pissed if that was his car/family car that he was driving in the accident. One alcohol violation, plus a fighting arrest, is enough to keep most parents from letting their kids have the keys. 18 or not.
Why would an adult tell their parents about an arrest.
Anonymous
07/27/2015 17:07
Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death
Anonymous wrote:I wonder if Sam Ellis needed an alarm to help him stay out of trouble.
I'd be really pissed if that was his car/family car that he was driving in the accident. One alcohol violation, plus a fighting arrest, is enough to keep most parents from letting their kids have the keys. 18 or not.
Anonymous
07/27/2015 17:05
Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death
Anonymous wrote:Yes, you go fetch your runaway kid. The sheer embarrassment ought to cure that problem.
18 yo's cant run away
Do any of you have 18 yo adults or just 18 month old children
Anonymous
07/27/2015 17:04
Subject: Re:HS Party with Alcohol... Death
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:alarm systems don't lock people in. They sound and otherwise alert people if there is an unauthorized entrance (in this case exit) from the house.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope it's a wake-up call to the Wootton parents who don't care their kids are drinking and drugging as long as the grades stay up.
EVERY parent of a teen needs a wake-up call. If your kid is lying, start to verify their stories. Stop believing the continuing lies. Just stop, so your kid can start to respect you again.
Okay, so you GPS your kid and catch them lying.
Then what? You take away the car and their phone and ground them.
And they sneak out, then what?
Do you chain them to their bed?
No but if you have an alarm system, they have no phone or means of communication to others - how and where are they getting out!?
I should gag them so they can't talk to neighborhood kids?
Again, with an alarm system, how are they getting out?
You suggest locking them in a house without the ability to get out!? And if there is a fire?
Exactly - then you know the second they attempt to go out. If the alarm goes off and they leave anyway, you go get them. Lots of embarrassing, severe punishment. It happens again and off to boarding/military school.
They are 18. You can't go "get them" ... You can lock them out. They leave in 6-8 weeks for college, I am not sure the whole boarding school idea makes any sense.
Anonymous
07/27/2015 17:00
Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death
Yes, you go fetch your runaway kid. The sheer embarrassment ought to cure that problem.
Anonymous
07/27/2015 16:34
Subject: Re:HS Party with Alcohol... Death
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:alarm systems don't lock people in. They sound and otherwise alert people if there is an unauthorized entrance (in this case exit) from the house.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope it's a wake-up call to the Wootton parents who don't care their kids are drinking and drugging as long as the grades stay up.
EVERY parent of a teen needs a wake-up call. If your kid is lying, start to verify their stories. Stop believing the continuing lies. Just stop, so your kid can start to respect you again.
Okay, so you GPS your kid and catch them lying.
Then what? You take away the car and their phone and ground them.
And they sneak out, then what?
Do you chain them to their bed?
No but if you have an alarm system, they have no phone or means of communication to others - how and where are they getting out!?
Not sure you should be handing out parenting advice ?
I should gag them so they can't talk to neighborhood kids?
Again, with an alarm system, how are they getting out?
You suggest locking them in a house without the ability to get out!? And if there is a fire?
Exactly - then you know the second they attempt to go out. If the alarm goes off and they leave anyway, you go get them. Lots of embarrassing, severe punishment. It happens again and off to boarding/military school.
Anonymous
07/27/2015 16:32
Subject: Re:HS Party with Alcohol... Death
Anonymous wrote:alarm systems don't lock people in. They sound and otherwise alert people if there is an unauthorized entrance (in this case exit) from the house.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope it's a wake-up call to the Wootton parents who don't care their kids are drinking and drugging as long as the grades stay up.
EVERY parent of a teen needs a wake-up call. If your kid is lying, start to verify their stories. Stop believing the continuing lies. Just stop, so your kid can start to respect you again.
Okay, so you GPS your kid and catch them lying.
Then what? You take away the car and their phone and ground them.
And they sneak out, then what?
Do you chain them to their bed?
No but if you have an alarm system, they have no phone or means of communication to others - how and where are they getting out!?
I should gag them so they can't talk to neighborhood kids?
Again, with an alarm system, how are they getting out?
You suggest locking them in a house without the ability to get out!? And if there is a fire?
Exactly - then you know the second they attempt to go out. If the alarm goes off and they leave anyway, you go get them. Lots of embarrassing, severe punishment. It happens again and off to boarding/military school.