Anonymous wrote:Gary submitted an audition tape to The Biggest Loser back befofe 16&P. He really does need to start considering his health. He must be well above 300lbs.

I'm guessing we'll never really know what happened with Kristina's daughter, since they're not even saying her name, let alone allowing her to be filmed. Obviously, Kristina and/or the father want to protect her privacy.

Anonymous wrote:What sucks is Gary is making Kristina fat now too. They need a household health revamp.

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Anonymous wrote:Gary submitted an audition tape to The Biggest Loser back befofe 16&P. He really does need to start considering his health. He must be well above 300lbs.

I'm guessing we'll never really know what happened with Kristina's daughter, since they're not even saying her name, let alone allowing her to be filmed. Obviously, Kristina and/or the father want to protect her privacy.

It's the father.

Anonymous wrote:Gary submitted an audition tape to The Biggest Loser back befofe 16&P. He really does need to start considering his health. He must be well above 300lbs.

I'm guessing we'll never really know what happened with Kristina's daughter, since they're not even saying her name, let alone allowing her to be filmed. Obviously, Kristina and/or the father want to protect her privacy.

Anonymous wrote:The house Tyler was fixing up was their old house that supposedly Butch was going to work on in exchange for a place to live. I don't recall if the plan is to rent out eventually or sell.

They need to hang with Gary for tips on that. He's quietly building his real estate/landlord empire, creating a post-TMOG income.

Anonymous wrote:Agree that Matt wasn't high on pills. We've been watching Ryan and Leah. We know what high on pills looks like.

Anonymous wrote:So wait, let's see:

1. Amber and Matt are supposedly former addicts so much so that they discuss it on camera; she went to jail rather than going to rehab and got out and went on and on about how she was sober and yet now drinks, hangs out with drinkers, he wears a shirt about drinking, and they talk about drinking?

2. Maci and her husband are going on and on about Ryan on drugs but honestly they drink A LOT and have always been drinkers - talking about how they can't wait to get beer, drinking beer at 5ks, how they sit around with their friends drinking beer, etc. (Did anyone else notice how she was palming a cigarette when the three girls were sitting around talking about Ryan outside in Puerto Rico? Typically it is Caitlyn we see smoking.)

3. Caitlyn supposedly went to "rehab" for depression where she talked about giving up smoking pot, talked to Dr. Drew about giving up pot, talked about how her mom was screwed up with drugs, talked about how her father in law has been on drugs, Tyler talks about how his dad is messed up on drugs...and then we see Caitlyn cover the camera in the car while she and her mom light up and smoke pot, get on the phone with Tyler and he asks her where the pot is, and when she gets out of rehab he asks her right away if she is going to start smoking pot again with him. And after that rehab...for "depression" - she is now drinking on this vacation - a lot - when we already know she is prone to depression, and has addiction in her family (as does Tyler.)

I don't know...who are all these people who are "sober" (Amber, Matt, etc.) but are drinking? Who are all these people talking about Ryan's drug problem when it is a RARE evening when we don't see Maci socializing without a beer in her hand?

A few other points:

--Where is the pig? Guess Caitlyn never got the horse... Where is the house Tyler was fixing up?

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone see last night's episode? With Matt calling Amber "psycho" (to the MTV crew member, not to her face) and saying he would never marry her after she "publicly humiliated" him by saying she would not marry him in Vegas? And Maci finding out that Rhine was doing "really scary things"?

Matt is gross. He said (on camera) to one of the camera women, "I don't care who you have to have oral relations with to make sure this does not go on air." If I was Gary, I would keep that creep away from my child's mother and their daughter.

I can't quite figure him out. On one hand, I give him props for understanding that when you feel embarrassed or disappointed on camera, you might need to just grin and bear it. He handled it very well with Amber. It's normal to be upset about something like that but to also rise to the occasion like he did by telling Amber he understands and it's ok. What's NOT normal is how he turned on a dime to saying they're done, she's psycho, don't air it, etc. Thats the psycho part, imo. That's what she needs to watch out for.

He now claims he was back on pills again and blacked out during that whole scene which is why he flipped out like a psycho. Whatever. Psycho from drugs or psycho from being yourself, I wouldn't want that around me or my kid. She'll realize he's an abusive sociopath at some point if she hasn't already.

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone see last night's episode? With Matt calling Amber "psycho" (to the MTV crew member, not to her face) and saying he would never marry her after she "publicly humiliated" him by saying she would not marry him in Vegas? And Maci finding out that Rhine was doing "really scary things"?

Matt is gross. He said (on camera) to one of the camera women, "I don't care who you have to have oral relations with to make sure this does not go on air." If I was Gary, I would keep that creep away from my child's mother and their daughter.

I can't quite figure him out. On one hand, I give him props for understanding that when you feel embarrassed or disappointed on camera, you might need to just grin and bear it. He handled it very well with Amber. It's normal to be upset about something like that but to also rise to the occasion like he did by telling Amber he understands and it's ok. What's NOT normal is how he turned on a dime to saying they're done, she's psycho, don't air it, etc. Thats the psycho part, imo. That's what she needs to watch out for.

He now claims he was back on pills again and blacked out during that whole scene which is why he flipped out like a psycho. Whatever. Psycho from drugs or psycho from being yourself, I wouldn't want that around me or my kid. She'll realize he's an abusive sociopath at some point if she hasn't already.