Anonymous wrote:No one wants giant middle schools.

Middle schools are only two grades. Even “big” middle schools wouldn’t be much larger than the biggest elementary schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Social engineers are out in force this morning!

They say, let’s ignore Fairfax families and make moves no one wants!

Can you elaborate what you mean? I thought we were talking about a public school system.

We are talking about a public school system that is hemorrhaging students.

When we talk of boundary decisions based on farms instead of stability, then more UMC and MC families leave. It’s the death spiral that a PP mentioned.

If people want to go to private school to avoid public school, that's their call. The people running the school system have a duty to make decisions that benefit all the students, not just the wealthy ones.

They also need to make decisions knowing if they alienate wealthy families that the wealthy families will disinvest, put their kids in private, or move out of the district, and have no desire to pay high property taxes.

There's no point worrying about MS split feeders. That area is too messy.

Just leave the MS alone and fix the HS.

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Anonymous wrote:I should have added, Hughes will have space for Fox Mill when AAP Centers end. They should just go ahead and start that in 27-28 for the western middle schools to align with this change.

But over 30% of basic Fox Mill yield lives west of 286. Rocky Run is way undercapacity and 29% of it is AAP from Liberty and Stone. This is nonsensical.
Herndon MS doesn't have space for the Hughes AAP feed and another ES for the HS. Herndon pyramid borders Carson/Skyview, Hughes/South Lakes, and Cooper/Langley. Pick a site for Herndon MS overflow.

+1 If Carson had walkers, my family (Fox Mill) would technically fall within the walking distance for secondary students. I am closer to Carson than all of McNair, all of Coates, part of Floris, and all of the Franklin Farm Crossfield-zoned area.

Then maybe we should just get rid of the idea that split feeders are not good. Then, just adjust boundaries independent of the elementary and middle schools? Would you like that?

Anonymous wrote:No one wants giant middle schools.

+1. Of all the bad ideas thrown out on here, this is the baddest.

No one wants giant middle schools.

Anonymous wrote:seems like they should have been investing the money into renovating middle schools to make them big enough to be direct feeders

If they don't do this they end up with situations where people claim they can't possibly take advantage of the hundreds of empty seats at Herndon HS because there isn't space at Herndon MS. Or they redistrict kids to "fix" overcrowding at a high school and leave a middle school that was previously expanded with hundreds of empty seats. They complain about split feeders, but then they do things that make them more likely to be necessary.

FCPS "planning" is a total joke.

Anonymous wrote:Any tea leaves to read in Reid's e-mail she just sent out about the next steps in the process? The "themes" they have identified so far from the boundary tool seem to hint at transportation distance, safety, and teenage driving as issues and concerns. Maybe not boding well for the RIO folks???

I sure hope so. But they listed “keeping neighborhoods together” as the first one.

seems like they should have been investing the money into renovating middle schools to make them big enough to be direct feeders

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Anonymous wrote:I should have added, Hughes will have space for Fox Mill when AAP Centers end. They should just go ahead and start that in 27-28 for the western middle schools to align with this change.

But over 30% of basic Fox Mill yield lives west of 286. Rocky Run is way undercapacity and 29% of it is AAP from Liberty and Stone. This is nonsensical.
Herndon MS doesn't have space for the Hughes AAP feed and another ES for the HS. Herndon pyramid borders Carson/Skyview, Hughes/South Lakes, and Cooper/Langley. Pick a site for Herndon MS overflow.

DP. It would be nice if they thought strategically on where additions to middle or high schools would help align feeder patterns. What they've been doing is expanding schools willy-nilly when they came up for a renovation and paying no attention as to whether that would leave middle schools either "too big" or "too small" for the high schools into which they feed.

Any tea leaves to read in Reid's e-mail she just sent out about the next steps in the process? The "themes" they have identified so far from the boundary tool seem to hint at transportation distance, safety, and teenage driving as issues and concerns. Maybe not boding well for the RIO folks???

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Anonymous wrote:I should have added, Hughes will have space for Fox Mill when AAP Centers end. They should just go ahead and start that in 27-28 for the western middle schools to align with this change.

But over 30% of basic Fox Mill yield lives west of 286. Rocky Run is way undercapacity and 29% of it is AAP from Liberty and Stone. This is nonsensical.
Herndon MS doesn't have space for the Hughes AAP feed and another ES for the HS. Herndon pyramid borders Carson/Skyview, Hughes/South Lakes, and Cooper/Langley. Pick a site for Herndon MS overflow.

+1 If Carson had walkers, my family (Fox Mill) would technically fall within the walking distance for secondary students. I am closer to Carson than all of McNair, all of Coates, part of Floris, and all of the Franklin Farm Crossfield-zoned area.

Anonymous wrote:I should have added, Hughes will have space for Fox Mill when AAP Centers end. They should just go ahead and start that in 27-28 for the western middle schools to align with this change.

But over 30% of basic Fox Mill yield lives west of 286. Rocky Run is way undercapacity and 29% of it is AAP from Liberty and Stone. This is nonsensical.
Herndon MS doesn't have space for the Hughes AAP feed and another ES for the HS. Herndon pyramid borders Carson/Skyview, Hughes/South Lakes, and Cooper/Langley. Pick a site for Herndon MS overflow.

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Anonymous wrote:Social engineers are out in force this morning!

They say, let’s ignore Fairfax families and make moves no one wants!

Can you elaborate what you mean? I thought we were talking about a public school system.

We are talking about a public school system that is hemorrhaging students.

When we talk of boundary decisions based on farms instead of stability, then more UMC and MC families leave. It’s the death spiral that a PP mentioned.

We are discussing stability--academic stability for all the schools in that area, not just Chantilly or Oakton or Skyview.

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Anonymous wrote:Social engineers are out in force this morning!

They say, let’s ignore Fairfax families and make moves no one wants!

Can you elaborate what you mean? I thought we were talking about a public school system.

We are talking about a public school system that is hemorrhaging students.

When we talk of boundary decisions based on farms instead of stability, then more UMC and MC families leave. It’s the death spiral that a PP mentioned.

If people want to go to private school to avoid public school, that's their call. The people running the school system have a duty to make decisions that benefit all the students, not just the wealthy ones.