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Anonymous wrote:Y'all seem to forget that in Season 1, Santos was wearing an ANKLE MONITOR. We don't know exactly what she did but we know she only has limited access to her kid and whatever she did, everyone knows about it. So you can sort of see why she resents the fact that her colleague doesn't appear ot have experienced the same consequences for his behavior. We don't know for sure, but Santos might also have an addictdion problem, and if she was forced to face the consequences of her actions, then clearly she thinks Langdono is getting off too easy.

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Anonymous wrote:Y'all seem to forget that in Season 1, Santos was wearing an ANKLE MONITOR. We don't know exactly what she did but we know she only has limited access to her kid and whatever she did, everyone knows about it. So you can sort of see why she resents the fact that her colleague doesn't appear ot have experienced the same consequences for his behavior. We don't know for sure, but Santos might also have an addictdion problem, and if she was forced to face the consequences of her actions, then clearly she thinks Langdono is getting off too easy.

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Anonymous wrote:There have been (unsurprisingly) many echoes of ER on The Pitt, so I sincerely hope that they don’t give poor Emma the “Lucy Knight” treatment.

I can't remember Lucy Knight but I have been rewatching the first couple seasons of ER and one "echo" that recently jumped out at me (because I watched the episodes from each show where it was mentioned near in time to each other) is that both shows have an Asian-American female medical student who reveals she has a photographic memory at an opportune time. It's such a specific detail that it's really wild that they both have it.

Another recent echo was that ER had a nurse trying to quit smoking by loading up on nicotine gum and really struggling, similar to Gloria this season needing strong nicotine gum to deal with her cravings.

The shows are actually pretty different in scope and feel, especially because of the timelines -- it was common for ER to weeks or even months between consecutive episodes so they could jump from summer to winter in a handful of episodes. This influences everything else -- patients rarely cross over between episodes, the doctor's personal lives can change drastically over the course of the season, and the younger doctors are progressing in their careers much more swiftly as you watch the show. But it's funny to see this small similarities that sometimes feel like intentional reference points because they are so specific.

Y'all seem to forget that in Season 1, Santos was wearing an ANKLE MONITOR. We don't know exactly what she did but we know she only has limited access to her kid and whatever she did, everyone knows about it. So you can sort of see why she resents the fact that her colleague doesn't appear ot have experienced the same consequences for his behavior. We don't know for sure, but Santos might also have an addictdion problem, and if she was forced to face the consequences of her actions, then clearly she thinks Langdono is getting off too easy.

There have been (unsurprisingly) many echoes of ER on The Pitt, so I sincerely hope that they don’t give poor Emma the “Lucy Knight” treatment.

Robby reminds me of the typical older guys at work, think they are smarter just because they have been around forever, but no use for new ideas or technology that actually might help them.

Anonymous wrote:any predictions for the kid who had heatstroke in the car?

Hopefully nothing. There's only a few hours of season left, which is too little time for him to have a full recovery and to discover he has no disabilities as a result of the heat stroke -- that will take days to determine, possibly longer. So if we hear about him again, it's more likely to be bad news -- something went wrong and he took a turn for the worse. Thus I hope his storyline is concluded and he just continues to recover in stable condition in the ICU for the rest of the season.

Same with the obese patient who had the risky surgery. Dana reported that he'd survived his surgery and is in post-op. There's no way for his story to get better than that with the time remaining (he'll barely be lucid by the end of the season, and it will be happening elsewhere in the hospital, he has no reason to return to the ED), so I hope we hear nothing more about him because the only news that the ED could get was that something went wrong.

This is pretty much true across the board on the show. Patients are not making full recoveries and walking out of the hospital at the end of the season with a new lease on life. There simply isn't time. They are either dying, heading into surgery, released with a treatment plan, or admitted to the hospital for testing and supervision.

any predictions for the kid who had heatstroke in the car?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't need people, particularly women, to be good or perfect, but it's as if the camera operators are in love with Santos. So many other doctors and characters are more interesting. Hope less screen time one day.

Had to turn away from a lot of the operating room stuff this episode. Wowe, blood and body parts.

She didn't get very much screen time this episode? She and Mohan were heavy last week but light this week, though the confrontation with Langdon and Santos was obviously heavily featured. But that was kind of it for her.

A lot of Mel this week, which I thought I would like, but I'm struggling a bit with how she's handling the Becca thing. I'm empathetic but she's just acting very immature.

I liked Robby more this week than I have in previous weeks, even though he's still being a jerk. But him being supportive of Javadi in front of her mom was great, I felt ok with how he handled the ICE stuff (it was such a crappy situation), and I liked him with Duke. Also his face during that conversation with the mom who walked into traffic? Holy crap, someone help that man.

Agree! Finally liking Robby again. Loved the bit with Javadi. I really dislike her mom who has this amazing, brilliant daughter but nothing she does is good enough. Mel was a favorite of mine last season but she annoys the crap out of me this season. I feel like they have overdone it with her character.

I am rooting for Langdon.

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Anonymous wrote:They had one Spanish speaking patient all day, then ICE shows up and half the waiting room flees?

Robby and Santos were at their worst. Ogilvie was painful to watch. Mel and Javadi were both a mess. Dana is so hyper competent that it's not really believable.

Such rapid fire editing, it was just scenes flashing by, not much coherence. The show continues to get away from what it had going in season one.

Disagree, thought this episode was great. I like how it's the flip of last season's chaos with the mass shooter. The ER is eerily quiet because patients are taking off due to ICE. The tension of that situation is heightening all the existing stressors for everyone. The quiet and patients leaving are also giving people more space to think, and to discuss issues, which is leading to trauma and conflict bubbling up.

I thought this episode was very eerie and well done.

I agree 100%. I would like to rewatch this one. As always, the pace was so fast that I almost missed the patients scurrying out of the waiting room. The ICE agents were scary as heck.

And OMG, that shot of Robby's face when Al-Hashimi asked the mom if she had thought about hurting herself.

I also very much agree with the characterization of Langdon's bad apology on the previous page. And I LOVE him. But that scene was very good and it went a long way toward explaining why Santos is so mad.

I think that moment where Al-Hashimi was asking the mom about self-harm was hitting Robby especially hard because she was talking about second-guessing her choices, and how she'd thought she'd been doing the right thing, and now having to confront the idea that her son might be permanently disabled because she lost track of him for a few minutes. Robby carries enormous guilt about removing his mentor from a ventilator during Covid to save someone else, and also from being unable to save his step-son's girlfriend after the mass shooting, and also from failing to see signs of Langdon's drug abuse and intervene before it got to the point where it harmed Langdon, Santos, and others. He's a conscientious person who genuinely has been trying to make the right choices and do the right things in his life, and yet he feels like he's still failed and is to blame for people he loves dying and hurting.

So yes I think some of it was him having to confront his own feelings about maybe self-harming or at least not caring about his well-being, but I think really what he was identifying with was the heaviness of her guilt and sense of having failed her responsibility to the person she loves most in the world. I think that's exactly how Robby feels and that many days he does feel like wandering into traffic, not because of a concrete desire to die, but because the weight of that [perceived] failure is just too much for him to carry.

I really hope he gets help in carrying it by the end of this season. It's too much.

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Anonymous wrote:They had one Spanish speaking patient all day, then ICE shows up and half the waiting room flees?

Robby and Santos were at their worst. Ogilvie was painful to watch. Mel and Javadi were both a mess. Dana is so hyper competent that it's not really believable.

Such rapid fire editing, it was just scenes flashing by, not much coherence. The show continues to get away from what it had going in season one.

Disagree, thought this episode was great. I like how it's the flip of last season's chaos with the mass shooter. The ER is eerily quiet because patients are taking off due to ICE. The tension of that situation is heightening all the existing stressors for everyone. The quiet and patients leaving are also giving people more space to think, and to discuss issues, which is leading to trauma and conflict bubbling up.

I thought this episode was very eerie and well done.

I agree 100%. I would like to rewatch this one. As always, the pace was so fast that I almost missed the patients scurrying out of the waiting room. The ICE agents were scary as heck.

And OMG, that shot of Robby's face when Al-Hashimi asked the mom if she had thought about hurting herself.

I also very much agree with the characterization of Langdon's bad apology on the previous page. And I LOVE him. But that scene was very good and it went a long way toward explaining why Santos is so mad.

Anonymous wrote:Al-Hashimi overheard the conversation between Langdon and Santos.

Right! That reminds me of the episode when Mr. Roper overheard a conversation between Jack and Chrissy and misinterpreted the whole situation.

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Anonymous wrote:What the bell does Garcia see in Santos and vice versa? They both seem like b@tches!

They’re both attractive. And tough. Isn’t that enough? It’s not romance.

Garcia is pretty on the rare occasion when she smiles but o don’t think Santos is the least bit attractive.

She has a pretty bad underbite, so her jaw and chin protrude too much. It’s very distracting and the character she plays is so abrasive. Not a good combo.

She’s the perfect foil to Langdon, he has an easiness about him, he’s male and good looking, but he has a flaw. She hates him for his weakness. Her looks,
and hair scream scrapper, she’s where she is because she’s hard on herself.

She’s jealous of his perceived privilege that’s why she turned him in.

She also turned him in because he was a drug addict who was stealing meds from the hospital and from patients.

Yeah, it's an interesting dynamic, she did the right thing, he should have been fired and arrested, but he's also super nice and highly competent, while she's neither of those things.

I mean they also worked one shift together ten months ago and she's still hung up on it and Garcia called her out on that. So it can both be true she did Langdon a solid and also that Santos should have moved on from this ages ago.

Truly baffled by these takes which require you to pretend Langdon's drug stealing and addiction was no big deal and that Santos should just "get over it" because some of her other colleagues are really good at detachment and compartmentalizing.

It can be a big deal but it's dominated Santos's brain space for 10 months to the point that her FWB is tired of it.

Also, the reality is Langdon will not be the last medical professional with drug issues Santos deals with.

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Anonymous wrote:What the bell does Garcia see in Santos and vice versa? They both seem like b@tches!

They’re both attractive. And tough. Isn’t that enough? It’s not romance.

Garcia is pretty on the rare occasion when she smiles but o don’t think Santos is the least bit attractive.

She has a pretty bad underbite, so her jaw and chin protrude too much. It’s very distracting and the character she plays is so abrasive. Not a good combo.

She’s the perfect foil to Langdon, he has an easiness about him, he’s male and good looking, but he has a flaw. She hates him for his weakness. Her looks,
and hair scream scrapper, she’s where she is because she’s hard on herself.

She’s jealous of his perceived privilege that’s why she turned him in.

She also turned him in because he was a drug addict who was stealing meds from the hospital and from patients.

Yeah, it's an interesting dynamic, she did the right thing, he should have been fired and arrested, but he's also super nice and highly competent, while she's neither of those things.

I agree Langdon is nice/charming and Santos is rude/abrasive.

Langdon's charm is an achilles heel though -- it's often a trait of narcissists, abusers and addicts, because it enables them to get away with things other people can't.

Santos' rudeness is a secret strength because in certain situations it can enable her to tell truth to power, as she did when she reported Langdon.

I think Santos is actually a good doctor having a shitty day, and that she's an R2 which is a tough residency year with a very heavy workload. Langdon's competency is, to some degree, simply a function of having been doing it for longer. I don't get the sense that he's a good doctor and Santos is a bad doctor. Would a good doctor siphon Ativan out of a drug vial, replace it with saline, and then blithely tell a subordinate that "sometimes you have to double the dose for it to kick in"?

I find their storyline fascinating because it really challenges preconceptions and interpretations. Langdon is easy to like but did something weak and horrible. Santos is easy to hate and did something brave and impressive. The show encourages you to look at them in different lights (as a colleague, as a patient, as a boss) and the light is always shifting.

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Anonymous wrote:What the bell does Garcia see in Santos and vice versa? They both seem like b@tches!

They’re both attractive. And tough. Isn’t that enough? It’s not romance.

Garcia is pretty on the rare occasion when she smiles but o don’t think Santos is the least bit attractive.

She has a pretty bad underbite, so her jaw and chin protrude too much. It’s very distracting and the character she plays is so abrasive. Not a good combo.

She’s the perfect foil to Langdon, he has an easiness about him, he’s male and good looking, but he has a flaw. She hates him for his weakness. Her looks,
and hair scream scrapper, she’s where she is because she’s hard on herself.

She’s jealous of his perceived privilege that’s why she turned him in.

She also turned him in because he was a drug addict who was stealing meds from the hospital and from patients.

Yeah, it's an interesting dynamic, she did the right thing, he should have been fired and arrested, but he's also super nice and highly competent, while she's neither of those things.

I mean they also worked one shift together ten months ago and she's still hung up on it and Garcia called her out on that. So it can both be true she did Langdon a solid and also that Santos should have moved on from this ages ago.

Truly baffled by these takes which require you to pretend Langdon's drug stealing and addiction was no big deal and that Santos should just "get over it" because some of her other colleagues are really good at detachment and compartmentalizing.