Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I was talking to inside the beltway types of folks who are very tuned into international affairs. They tried to give me the most unbiased take they could on what's going on and how they think the current admin views the world.
First, global order has already been upended for years. China already expanded by building artifical islands in the SCS along with their 9 dash line claims. China has a strategy of trying to control all shipping and trade from China, to Europe, to Africa - see the strand of pearls theory. Russia has also upended global order years ago due to obvious reasons. So who is left playing by rules? The west, including the US. What did the world do as China illegally expanded in the SCS with their artificial islands? Nothing. What did the rest of the world do about Ukraine except the US? Pretty much nothing. If Russia and China get to ignore all the rules, then so should the US.
With respect to Greenland/Europe, they pretty much summarized Europe down to 3 things: soccer, socialism, and site seeing. The point they were trying to make was that Europe is basically worthless from both a military strategic and economic standpoint. Europe was described as basically a museum. For decades Europe has refused to fund and maintain an adequate military. Europe has socialist tendencies that are strangling innovation and their economy. AI is going nowhere in Europe while China and the US are accelerating integration into the economy at breakneck speeds. Europe's economy is going to be left in the dust over the next 50 years. They also pointed out that Europe is anemic when it comes to starting companies, which is why they basically don't even have a European version of the S&P 500 - because they're incapble of starting that many companies due to overtaxing socialist policies and regulations smothering them.
To summarize, world order has already been fragmented years ago with expansionist and rising China and the Russia invasion of Ukraine. US has to accept it and live in a multipolar world. Europe is useless due to lack of military and because all economics are moving east. US has to accept the multipolar world and make hard adjustments. China can do whatever they want in their sphere and Russia as well, as long as they both stay the F outta our backyard (i.e., the Americas). That's why you see so much attention about securing Greenland.
It's frightening to see such misinformation from supposed Beltway experts. First, what the hell does Greenland have to do with China's ambitions in the South China Sea? Nobody has provided any evidence that China wants to invade/control territory outside of its immediate geographic neighborhood, especially Greenland. Yes, it has global economic interests and attempts to sway the developing world, just like very other major power. As the Chinese stated this morning, using China as an excuse to invade Greenland is simply covering up Trump's personal amibitions with a fig leaf.
As far as Europe's status, they have the third largest GDP in the world, accounting for 1/6 of the global economy. Quite a statement to say they are "worthless", especially when you look at the dollar compared to the Euro since Trump took office.
If this is the caliber of Stephen Miller's foreign affairs team, we really are screwed.
Anonymous wrote:I was talking to inside the beltway types of folks who are very tuned into international affairs. They tried to give me the most unbiased take they could on what's going on and how they think the current admin views the world.
First, global order has already been upended for years. China already expanded by building artifical islands in the SCS along with their 9 dash line claims. China has a strategy of trying to control all shipping and trade from China, to Europe, to Africa - see the strand of pearls theory. Russia has also upended global order years ago due to obvious reasons. So who is left playing by rules? The west, including the US. What did the world do as China illegally expanded in the SCS with their artificial islands? Nothing. What did the rest of the world do about Ukraine except the US? Pretty much nothing. If Russia and China get to ignore all the rules, then so should the US.
With respect to Greenland/Europe, they pretty much summarized Europe down to 3 things: soccer, socialism, and site seeing. The point they were trying to make was that Europe is basically worthless from both a military strategic and economic standpoint. Europe was described as basically a museum. For decades Europe has refused to fund and maintain an adequate military. Europe has socialist tendencies that are strangling innovation and their economy. AI is going nowhere in Europe while China and the US are accelerating integration into the economy at breakneck speeds. Europe's economy is going to be left in the dust over the next 50 years. They also pointed out that Europe is anemic when it comes to starting companies, which is why they basically don't even have a European version of the S&P 500 - because they're incapble of starting that many companies due to overtaxing socialist policies and regulations smothering them.
To summarize, world order has already been fragmented years ago with expansionist and rising China and the Russia invasion of Ukraine. US has to accept it and live in a multipolar world. Europe is useless due to lack of military and because all economics are moving east. US has to accept the multipolar world and make hard adjustments. China can do whatever they want in their sphere and Russia as well, as long as they both stay the F outta our backyard (i.e., the Americas). That's why you see so much attention about securing Greenland.
Anonymous wrote:I was talking to inside the beltway types of folks who are very tuned into international affairs. They tried to give me the most unbiased take they could on what's going on and how they think the current admin views the world.
First, global order has already been upended for years. China already expanded by building artifical islands in the SCS along with their 9 dash line claims. China has a strategy of trying to control all shipping and trade from China, to Europe, to Africa - see the strand of pearls theory. Russia has also upended global order years ago due to obvious reasons. So who is left playing by rules? The west, including the US. What did the world do as China illegally expanded in the SCS with their artificial islands? Nothing. What did the rest of the world do about Ukraine except the US? Pretty much nothing. If Russia and China get to ignore all the rules, then so should the US.
With respect to Greenland/Europe, they pretty much summarized Europe down to 3 things: soccer, socialism, and site seeing. The point they were trying to make was that Europe is basically worthless from both a military strategic and economic standpoint. Europe was described as basically a museum. For decades Europe has refused to fund and maintain an adequate military. Europe has socialist tendencies that are strangling innovation and their economy. AI is going nowhere in Europe while China and the US are accelerating integration into the economy at breakneck speeds. Europe's economy is going to be left in the dust over the next 50 years. They also pointed out that Europe is anemic when it comes to starting companies, which is why they basically don't even have a European version of the S&P 500 - because they're incapble of starting that many companies due to overtaxing socialist policies and regulations smothering them.
To summarize, world order has already been fragmented years ago with expansionist and rising China and the Russia invasion of Ukraine. US has to accept it and live in a multipolar world. Europe is useless due to lack of military and because all economics are moving east. US has to accept the multipolar world and make hard adjustments. China can do whatever they want in their sphere and Russia as well, as long as they both stay the F outta our backyard (i.e., the Americas). That's why you see so much attention about securing Greenland.
Anonymous wrote:I was talking to inside the beltway types of folks who are very tuned into international affairs. They tried to give me the most unbiased take they could on what's going on and how they think the current admin views the world.
First, global order has already been upended for years. China already expanded by building artifical islands in the SCS along with their 9 dash line claims. China has a strategy of trying to control all shipping and trade from China, to Europe, to Africa - see the strand of pearls theory. Russia has also upended global order years ago due to obvious reasons. So who is left playing by rules? The west, including the US. What did the world do as China illegally expanded in the SCS with their artificial islands? Nothing. What did the rest of the world do about Ukraine except the US? Pretty much nothing. If Russia and China get to ignore all the rules, then so should the US.
With respect to Greenland/Europe, they pretty much summarized Europe down to 3 things: soccer, socialism, and site seeing. The point they were trying to make was that Europe is basically worthless from both a military strategic and economic standpoint. Europe was described as basically a museum. For decades Europe has refused to fund and maintain an adequate military. Europe has socialist tendencies that are strangling innovation and their economy. AI is going nowhere in Europe while China and the US are accelerating integration into the economy at breakneck speeds. Europe's economy is going to be left in the dust over the next 50 years. They also pointed out that Europe is anemic when it comes to starting companies, which is why they basically don't even have a European version of the S&P 500 - because they're incapble of starting that many companies due to overtaxing socialist policies and regulations smothering them.
To summarize, world order has already been fragmented years ago with expansionist and rising China and the Russia invasion of Ukraine. US has to accept it and live in a multipolar world. Europe is useless due to lack of military and because all economics are moving east. US has to accept the multipolar world and make hard adjustments. China can do whatever they want in their sphere and Russia as well, as long as they both stay the F outta our backyard (i.e., the Americas). That's why you see so much attention about securing Greenland.
Anonymous wrote:This is DCUM, the “hand wringing” and “pearl clutching” have no bounds.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:FAFO
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Greenland has 56,000 total residents.
The NYPD could conquer Greenland with a few overtime shifts.
But they will not be fighting Greenlanders, so what then.
They won't be fighting anyone. Europe is not going to do anything. They will be completely wrecked if they attack any Americans sent to secure Greenland.
US military is way out numbered in Europe. Europe could easily wreck the US economy with sanction and the 12 trillion in US securities they have. Plus they could impose sanctions against Israel. How quickly will you maga type fold when Israel is in trouble?
Do you even realize what you just wrote? We have nearly 100K military personnel literally occupying Europe already. And you think it's a boast that they're "outnumbered" in the countries we are occupying? There is no conceivable timeline where the EU attempts military action against the United States for securing Greenland as part of America.
Do you realize that there are 1.5 million active duty European troops? That is excluding US troops. How many reservists do you think there are?
Defending Greenland would be as unpopular in Europe as attacking it would be in the US. But if push came to shove, the US could achieve air superiority in Greenland in about a day, and European troops would have no choice but to retreat off the island. It’s nice to think about the EU “resisting”, but it’s tough to resist against Tomahawk missles and F-35s.
and if this happen, US citizens will no longer be welcome in the EU, NATO dissolved and we would stand on the precipice of a global war with nuclear parties on both sides. the US will lose its largest trading partners in Europe, Canada and Mexico, bringing the US economy to a standstill.
Nuclear war over Greenland? No.
How many of you “chicken littles” have sold every US financial asset you have and converted to Euros? Because thats what you should be doing if you believe the nonsense spouted on this board. Also, get that house up for sale immediately, spring market is here.
Well, better finish it off, the end is near. Trump speaks tomorrow at Davos, who knows what he will say. US financial markets closed by the of the week.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is DCUM, the “hand wringing” and “pearl clutching” have no bounds.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:FAFO
*DANISH PENSION FUND AKADEMIKERPENSION TO EXIT US TREASURIES
Greenland has 56,000 total residents.
The NYPD could conquer Greenland with a few overtime shifts.
But they will not be fighting Greenlanders, so what then.
They won't be fighting anyone. Europe is not going to do anything. They will be completely wrecked if they attack any Americans sent to secure Greenland.
US military is way out numbered in Europe. Europe could easily wreck the US economy with sanction and the 12 trillion in US securities they have. Plus they could impose sanctions against Israel. How quickly will you maga type fold when Israel is in trouble?
Do you even realize what you just wrote? We have nearly 100K military personnel literally occupying Europe already. And you think it's a boast that they're "outnumbered" in the countries we are occupying? There is no conceivable timeline where the EU attempts military action against the United States for securing Greenland as part of America.
Do you realize that there are 1.5 million active duty European troops? That is excluding US troops. How many reservists do you think there are?
Defending Greenland would be as unpopular in Europe as attacking it would be in the US. But if push came to shove, the US could achieve air superiority in Greenland in about a day, and European troops would have no choice but to retreat off the island. It’s nice to think about the EU “resisting”, but it’s tough to resist against Tomahawk missles and F-35s.
and if this happen, US citizens will no longer be welcome in the EU, NATO dissolved and we would stand on the precipice of a global war with nuclear parties on both sides. the US will lose its largest trading partners in Europe, Canada and Mexico, bringing the US economy to a standstill.
Nuclear war over Greenland? No.
How many of you “chicken littles” have sold every US financial asset you have and converted to Euros? Because thats what you should be doing if you believe the nonsense spouted on this board. Also, get that house up for sale immediately, spring market is here.
I did a pretty good chunk in March when the writing was on the wall. Has worked out pretty well so far.
Anonymous wrote:This is DCUM, the “hand wringing” and “pearl clutching” have no bounds.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:FAFO
*DANISH PENSION FUND AKADEMIKERPENSION TO EXIT US TREASURIES
Greenland has 56,000 total residents.
The NYPD could conquer Greenland with a few overtime shifts.
But they will not be fighting Greenlanders, so what then.
They won't be fighting anyone. Europe is not going to do anything. They will be completely wrecked if they attack any Americans sent to secure Greenland.
US military is way out numbered in Europe. Europe could easily wreck the US economy with sanction and the 12 trillion in US securities they have. Plus they could impose sanctions against Israel. How quickly will you maga type fold when Israel is in trouble?
Do you even realize what you just wrote? We have nearly 100K military personnel literally occupying Europe already. And you think it's a boast that they're "outnumbered" in the countries we are occupying? There is no conceivable timeline where the EU attempts military action against the United States for securing Greenland as part of America.
Do you realize that there are 1.5 million active duty European troops? That is excluding US troops. How many reservists do you think there are?
Defending Greenland would be as unpopular in Europe as attacking it would be in the US. But if push came to shove, the US could achieve air superiority in Greenland in about a day, and European troops would have no choice but to retreat off the island. It’s nice to think about the EU “resisting”, but it’s tough to resist against Tomahawk missles and F-35s.
and if this happen, US citizens will no longer be welcome in the EU, NATO dissolved and we would stand on the precipice of a global war with nuclear parties on both sides. the US will lose its largest trading partners in Europe, Canada and Mexico, bringing the US economy to a standstill.
Nuclear war over Greenland? No.
How many of you “chicken littles” have sold every US financial asset you have and converted to Euros? Because thats what you should be doing if you believe the nonsense spouted on this board. Also, get that house up for sale immediately, spring market is here.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:FAFO
*DANISH PENSION FUND AKADEMIKERPENSION TO EXIT US TREASURIES
Greenland has 56,000 total residents.
The NYPD could conquer Greenland with a few overtime shifts.
But they will not be fighting Greenlanders, so what then.
They won't be fighting anyone. Europe is not going to do anything. They will be completely wrecked if they attack any Americans sent to secure Greenland.
US military is way out numbered in Europe. Europe could easily wreck the US economy with sanction and the 12 trillion in US securities they have. Plus they could impose sanctions against Israel. How quickly will you maga type fold when Israel is in trouble?
Do you even realize what you just wrote? We have nearly 100K military personnel literally occupying Europe already. And you think it's a boast that they're "outnumbered" in the countries we are occupying? There is no conceivable timeline where the EU attempts military action against the United States for securing Greenland as part of America.
Do you realize that there are 1.5 million active duty European troops? That is excluding US troops. How many reservists do you think there are?
Defending Greenland would be as unpopular in Europe as attacking it would be in the US. But if push came to shove, the US could achieve air superiority in Greenland in about a day, and European troops would have no choice but to retreat off the island. It’s nice to think about the EU “resisting”, but it’s tough to resist against Tomahawk missles and F-35s.
and if this happen, US citizens will no longer be welcome in the EU, NATO dissolved and we would stand on the precipice of a global war with nuclear parties on both sides. the US will lose its largest trading partners in Europe, Canada and Mexico, bringing the US economy to a standstill.
It will definitely devastate our economy. MAGA somehow do not care about our economy.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:FAFO
*DANISH PENSION FUND AKADEMIKERPENSION TO EXIT US TREASURIES
Greenland has 56,000 total residents.
The NYPD could conquer Greenland with a few overtime shifts.
But they will not be fighting Greenlanders, so what then.
They won't be fighting anyone. Europe is not going to do anything. They will be completely wrecked if they attack any Americans sent to secure Greenland.
US military is way out numbered in Europe. Europe could easily wreck the US economy with sanction and the 12 trillion in US securities they have. Plus they could impose sanctions against Israel. How quickly will you maga type fold when Israel is in trouble?
Do you even realize what you just wrote? We have nearly 100K military personnel literally occupying Europe already. And you think it's a boast that they're "outnumbered" in the countries we are occupying? There is no conceivable timeline where the EU attempts military action against the United States for securing Greenland as part of America.
Do you realize that there are 1.5 million active duty European troops? That is excluding US troops. How many reservists do you think there are?
Defending Greenland would be as unpopular in Europe as attacking it would be in the US. But if push came to shove, the US could achieve air superiority in Greenland in about a day, and European troops would have no choice but to retreat off the island. It’s nice to think about the EU “resisting”, but it’s tough to resist against Tomahawk missles and F-35s.
From what bases will you fly f-35s? How will you refuel them? The f-35 is not a long range aircraft - 500 miles round trip. You will not be able to bring carriers up there. The UK has nuclear subs, anti ship missiles and anti aircraft. You can’t use bases in the UK or Europe. Canada is out.
Good luck. The US has not fought a war against a first world power in a long time. Specially against one that will know everything there is to know about US capabilities.
You a f’ing crazy. You want to go to war against Europe?
Anonymous wrote:This is DCUM, the “hand wringing” and “pearl clutching” have no bounds.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:FAFO
*DANISH PENSION FUND AKADEMIKERPENSION TO EXIT US TREASURIES
Greenland has 56,000 total residents.
The NYPD could conquer Greenland with a few overtime shifts.
But they will not be fighting Greenlanders, so what then.
They won't be fighting anyone. Europe is not going to do anything. They will be completely wrecked if they attack any Americans sent to secure Greenland.
US military is way out numbered in Europe. Europe could easily wreck the US economy with sanction and the 12 trillion in US securities they have. Plus they could impose sanctions against Israel. How quickly will you maga type fold when Israel is in trouble?
Do you even realize what you just wrote? We have nearly 100K military personnel literally occupying Europe already. And you think it's a boast that they're "outnumbered" in the countries we are occupying? There is no conceivable timeline where the EU attempts military action against the United States for securing Greenland as part of America.
Do you realize that there are 1.5 million active duty European troops? That is excluding US troops. How many reservists do you think there are?
Defending Greenland would be as unpopular in Europe as attacking it would be in the US. But if push came to shove, the US could achieve air superiority in Greenland in about a day, and European troops would have no choice but to retreat off the island. It’s nice to think about the EU “resisting”, but it’s tough to resist against Tomahawk missles and F-35s.
and if this happen, US citizens will no longer be welcome in the EU, NATO dissolved and we would stand on the precipice of a global war with nuclear parties on both sides. the US will lose its largest trading partners in Europe, Canada and Mexico, bringing the US economy to a standstill.
Nuclear war over Greenland? No.
How many of you “chicken littles” have sold every US financial asset you have and converted to Euros? Because thats what you should be doing if you believe the nonsense spouted on this board. Also, get that house up for sale immediately, spring market is here.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:FAFO
*DANISH PENSION FUND AKADEMIKERPENSION TO EXIT US TREASURIES
Greenland has 56,000 total residents.
The NYPD could conquer Greenland with a few overtime shifts.
But they will not be fighting Greenlanders, so what then.
They won't be fighting anyone. Europe is not going to do anything. They will be completely wrecked if they attack any Americans sent to secure Greenland.
US military is way out numbered in Europe. Europe could easily wreck the US economy with sanction and the 12 trillion in US securities they have. Plus they could impose sanctions against Israel. How quickly will you maga type fold when Israel is in trouble?
Do you even realize what you just wrote? We have nearly 100K military personnel literally occupying Europe already. And you think it's a boast that they're "outnumbered" in the countries we are occupying? There is no conceivable timeline where the EU attempts military action against the United States for securing Greenland as part of America.
Do you realize that there are 1.5 million active duty European troops? That is excluding US troops. How many reservists do you think there are?
Defending Greenland would be as unpopular in Europe as attacking it would be in the US. But if push came to shove, the US could achieve air superiority in Greenland in about a day, and European troops would have no choice but to retreat off the island. It’s nice to think about the EU “resisting”, but it’s tough to resist against Tomahawk missles and F-35s.
This is DCUM, the “hand wringing” and “pearl clutching” have no bounds.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:FAFO
*DANISH PENSION FUND AKADEMIKERPENSION TO EXIT US TREASURIES
Greenland has 56,000 total residents.
The NYPD could conquer Greenland with a few overtime shifts.
But they will not be fighting Greenlanders, so what then.
They won't be fighting anyone. Europe is not going to do anything. They will be completely wrecked if they attack any Americans sent to secure Greenland.
US military is way out numbered in Europe. Europe could easily wreck the US economy with sanction and the 12 trillion in US securities they have. Plus they could impose sanctions against Israel. How quickly will you maga type fold when Israel is in trouble?
Do you even realize what you just wrote? We have nearly 100K military personnel literally occupying Europe already. And you think it's a boast that they're "outnumbered" in the countries we are occupying? There is no conceivable timeline where the EU attempts military action against the United States for securing Greenland as part of America.
Do you realize that there are 1.5 million active duty European troops? That is excluding US troops. How many reservists do you think there are?
Defending Greenland would be as unpopular in Europe as attacking it would be in the US. But if push came to shove, the US could achieve air superiority in Greenland in about a day, and European troops would have no choice but to retreat off the island. It’s nice to think about the EU “resisting”, but it’s tough to resist against Tomahawk missles and F-35s.
and if this happen, US citizens will no longer be welcome in the EU, NATO dissolved and we would stand on the precipice of a global war with nuclear parties on both sides. the US will lose its largest trading partners in Europe, Canada and Mexico, bringing the US economy to a standstill.
Nuclear war over Greenland? No.