Anonymous
12/21/2024 10:58
Subject: Yet another GOP shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So at the end of the day, the Congress negotiated a deal, Musk tanked it, the House passed a clean bill and then the senate restored everything in the negotiated deal except the things Trump wanted were excluded.
Way to go Elon, or something.
Wrong. The senate did not restore everything in the negotiated deal. The specific funds in the 1500 mega deal were stripped out (example - nearly four percent pay raise for Congress) but congress retains the right to spend up to that level, piece meal. Yes, way to go Elon. Shine a light on the spending. If congress wants a pay raise, do a standalone bill so the American people can see it - don’t try to sneak it in in a CR.
We already knew that Congress has not passed a budget in a long time. Elon didn't shine a light on that. He shone a light on his unfamiliarity with how our government works. His ignorance and inability to recognize it.
Ridiculous take unless you support a Congress sneaking in a pay raise for itself under an emergency CR instead of a standalone vote.
The American people have voted for transparency. The days of 1500 page bills with sneaky items snuck in are over. This is a good thing for all of us, since it’s not just the left sneaking things in.
Which party controls the House and wrote the 1500 page bill?
If you don’t understand the power pull between the current Republicans in office and Trump, then you haven’t been following the news. The whole point is that the establishment GOP and the populist incoming class are at odds with each other. And don’t kid yourself - pork like the Boston pride senior housing fund isn’t coming from Republicans.
Only a selfish, short-sighted sociopath would call things like cancer research "pork."
Sums up MAGA-selfish, self-centered-complete sociopaths
Anonymous
12/21/2024 10:57
Subject: Yet another GOP shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So at the end of the day, the Congress negotiated a deal, Musk tanked it, the House passed a clean bill and then the senate restored everything in the negotiated deal except the things Trump wanted were excluded.
Way to go Elon, or something.
Wrong. The senate did not restore everything in the negotiated deal. The specific funds in the 1500 mega deal were stripped out (example - nearly four percent pay raise for Congress) but congress retains the right to spend up to that level, piece meal. Yes, way to go Elon. Shine a light on the spending. If congress wants a pay raise, do a standalone bill so the American people can see it - don’t try to sneak it in in a CR.
We already knew that Congress has not passed a budget in a long time. Elon didn't shine a light on that. He shone a light on his unfamiliarity with how our government works. His ignorance and inability to recognize it.
Ridiculous take unless you support a Congress sneaking in a pay raise for itself under an emergency CR instead of a standalone vote.
The American people have voted for transparency. The days of 1500 page bills with sneaky items snuck in are over. This is a good thing for all of us, since it’s not just the left sneaking things in.
LOL
Anonymous
12/21/2024 10:55
Subject: Yet another GOP shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is a huge black eye for Trump. wonder if it will sour him on Musk.
Musk totally played him.
https://prospect.org/politics/2024-12-20-government-shutting-down-elon-musk-factories-china/
That’s a totally biased, progressive activist magazine. Can you site anything credible or just propaganda?
Why were the restrictions removed after Musk complained about the CR?
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/house-democrat-says-republicans-protecting-elon-musks-chinese-investments-2024-12-20/
President Musk has spoken, and Rs have bowed down to the Mump.
Anonymous
12/21/2024 10:51
Subject: Yet another GOP shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So at the end of the day, the Congress negotiated a deal, Musk tanked it, the House passed a clean bill and then the senate restored everything in the negotiated deal except the things Trump wanted were excluded.
Way to go Elon, or something.
Wrong. The senate did not restore everything in the negotiated deal. The specific funds in the 1500 mega deal were stripped out (example - nearly four percent pay raise for Congress) but congress retains the right to spend up to that level, piece meal. Yes, way to go Elon. Shine a light on the spending. If congress wants a pay raise, do a standalone bill so the American people can see it - don’t try to sneak it in in a CR.
We already knew that Congress has not passed a budget in a long time. Elon didn't shine a light on that. He shone a light on his unfamiliarity with how our government works. His ignorance and inability to recognize it.
Ridiculous take unless you support a Congress sneaking in a pay raise for itself under an emergency CR instead of a standalone vote.
The American people have voted for transparency. The days of 1500 page bills with sneaky items snuck in are over. This is a good thing for all of us, since it’s not just the left sneaking things in.
Which party controls the House and wrote the 1500 page bill?
If you don’t understand the power pull between the current Republicans in office and Trump, then you haven’t been following the news. The whole point is that the establishment GOP and the populist incoming class are at odds with each other. And don’t kid yourself - pork like the Boston pride senior housing fund isn’t coming from Republicans.
Only a selfish, short-sighted sociopath would call things like cancer research "pork."
Anonymous
12/21/2024 10:51
Subject: Yet another GOP shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is a huge black eye for Trump. wonder if it will sour him on Musk.
Musk totally played him.
https://prospect.org/politics/2024-12-20-government-shutting-down-elon-musk-factories-china/
That’s a totally biased, progressive activist magazine. Can you site anything credible or just propaganda?
Why were the restrictions removed after Musk complained about the CR?
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/house-democrat-says-republicans-protecting-elon-musks-chinese-investments-2024-12-20/
Anonymous
12/21/2024 10:38
Subject: Yet another GOP shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So at the end of the day, the Congress negotiated a deal, Musk tanked it, the House passed a clean bill and then the senate restored everything in the negotiated deal except the things Trump wanted were excluded.
Way to go Elon, or something.
Wrong. The senate did not restore everything in the negotiated deal. The specific funds in the 1500 mega deal were stripped out (example - nearly four percent pay raise for Congress) but congress retains the right to spend up to that level, piece meal. Yes, way to go Elon. Shine a light on the spending. If congress wants a pay raise, do a standalone bill so the American people can see it - don’t try to sneak it in in a CR.
Sure. They stripped out rounding errors (*golf clap*). At least Trump didn’t get what he wanted.
But Elon did.
And let’s face it, that’s who’s running the place.
It’s a sign of things to come. Elon will get his priorities through Congress because he will be politically relevant far longer than Trump. It was clear nobody was really paying attention to Trump throughout this.
Anonymous
12/21/2024 10:35
Subject: Yet another GOP shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So at the end of the day, the Congress negotiated a deal, Musk tanked it, the House passed a clean bill and then the senate restored everything in the negotiated deal except the things Trump wanted were excluded.
Way to go Elon, or something.
Wrong. The senate did not restore everything in the negotiated deal. The specific funds in the 1500 mega deal were stripped out (example - nearly four percent pay raise for Congress) but congress retains the right to spend up to that level, piece meal. Yes, way to go Elon. Shine a light on the spending. If congress wants a pay raise, do a standalone bill so the American people can see it - don’t try to sneak it in in a CR.
Sure. They stripped out rounding errors (*golf clap*). At least Trump didn’t get what he wanted.
But Elon did.
And let’s face it, that’s who’s running the place.
Anonymous
12/21/2024 10:33
Subject: Yet another GOP shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So at the end of the day, the Congress negotiated a deal, Musk tanked it, the House passed a clean bill and then the senate restored everything in the negotiated deal except the things Trump wanted were excluded.
Way to go Elon, or something.
Wrong. The senate did not restore everything in the negotiated deal. The specific funds in the 1500 mega deal were stripped out (example - nearly four percent pay raise for Congress) but congress retains the right to spend up to that level, piece meal. Yes, way to go Elon. Shine a light on the spending. If congress wants a pay raise, do a standalone bill so the American people can see it - don’t try to sneak it in in a CR.
We already knew that Congress has not passed a budget in a long time. Elon didn't shine a light on that. He shone a light on his unfamiliarity with how our government works. His ignorance and inability to recognize it.
Ridiculous take unless you support a Congress sneaking in a pay raise for itself under an emergency CR instead of a standalone vote.
The American people have voted for transparency. The days of 1500 page bills with sneaky items snuck in are over. This is a good thing for all of us, since it’s not just the left sneaking things in.
How did you even type this with a straight face— transparency? From the guy who didn’t release his tax returns and kept paperwork in the bathroom? If you think you voted for “transparency” you were conned but good.
And since Elon got his ability to send more money and jobs to China, it’s easy for the rest of us to see who conned you.
Anonymous
12/21/2024 10:24
Subject: Yet another GOP shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So at the end of the day, the Congress negotiated a deal, Musk tanked it, the House passed a clean bill and then the senate restored everything in the negotiated deal except the things Trump wanted were excluded.
Way to go Elon, or something.
Wrong. The senate did not restore everything in the negotiated deal. The specific funds in the 1500 mega deal were stripped out (example - nearly four percent pay raise for Congress) but congress retains the right to spend up to that level, piece meal. Yes, way to go Elon. Shine a light on the spending. If congress wants a pay raise, do a standalone bill so the American people can see it - don’t try to sneak it in in a CR.
We already knew that Congress has not passed a budget in a long time. Elon didn't shine a light on that. He shone a light on his unfamiliarity with how our government works. His ignorance and inability to recognize it.
Ridiculous take unless you support a Congress sneaking in a pay raise for itself under an emergency CR instead of a standalone vote.
The American people have voted for transparency. The days of 1500 page bills with sneaky items snuck in are over. This is a good thing for all of us, since it’s not just the left sneaking things in.
Which party controls the House and wrote the 1500 page bill?
If you don’t understand the power pull between the current Republicans in office and Trump, then you haven’t been following the news. The whole point is that the establishment GOP and the populist incoming class are at odds with each other. And don’t kid yourself - pork like the Boston pride senior housing fund isn’t coming from Republicans.
Trump is a contrarion, he is at odds with everyone. It's not a good way to run a country, we already saw that the last time. So far, this one is looking to be exactly the same.
At least you're enjoying it. So someone's happy.
Trump isn't right or left. At best, he's a populist. At worst, he's only concerned about it impacts him.
Anonymous
12/21/2024 10:24
Subject: Yet another GOP shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So at the end of the day, the Congress negotiated a deal, Musk tanked it, the House passed a clean bill and then the senate restored everything in the negotiated deal except the things Trump wanted were excluded.
Way to go Elon, or something.
Wrong. The senate did not restore everything in the negotiated deal. The specific funds in the 1500 mega deal were stripped out (example - nearly four percent pay raise for Congress) but congress retains the right to spend up to that level, piece meal. Yes, way to go Elon. Shine a light on the spending. If congress wants a pay raise, do a standalone bill so the American people can see it - don’t try to sneak it in in a CR.
Sure. They stripped out rounding errors (*golf clap*). At least Trump didn’t get what he wanted.
Rounding errors? The pork is gone. You seem to note understand what happened. It’s the difference between maintaining a credit limit and actual spending, and changing how and when it occurs. Get off MSNBC.
Not even a rounding error. Aside, pork like farm aid resulting from Trump’s poor policies is still in it.
Anonymous
12/21/2024 10:21
Subject: Re:Yet another GOP shutdown?
I don't understand the objection to Congress getting a pay raise - a COLA increase - for the first time since 2009.
Do you only want independently wealthy people to serve in Congress?
Do you only want independently wealthy people to serve in Congress?
Anonymous
12/21/2024 10:14
Subject: Yet another GOP shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So at the end of the day, the Congress negotiated a deal, Musk tanked it, the House passed a clean bill and then the senate restored everything in the negotiated deal except the things Trump wanted were excluded.
Way to go Elon, or something.
Wrong. The senate did not restore everything in the negotiated deal. The specific funds in the 1500 mega deal were stripped out (example - nearly four percent pay raise for Congress) but congress retains the right to spend up to that level, piece meal. Yes, way to go Elon. Shine a light on the spending. If congress wants a pay raise, do a standalone bill so the American people can see it - don’t try to sneak it in in a CR.
We already knew that Congress has not passed a budget in a long time. Elon didn't shine a light on that. He shone a light on his unfamiliarity with how our government works. His ignorance and inability to recognize it.
Ridiculous take unless you support a Congress sneaking in a pay raise for itself under an emergency CR instead of a standalone vote.
The American people have voted for transparency. The days of 1500 page bills with sneaky items snuck in are over. This is a good thing for all of us, since it’s not just the left sneaking things in.
Which party controls the House and wrote the 1500 page bill?
If you don’t understand the power pull between the current Republicans in office and Trump, then you haven’t been following the news. The whole point is that the establishment GOP and the populist incoming class are at odds with each other. And don’t kid yourself - pork like the Boston pride senior housing fund isn’t coming from Republicans.
Trump is a contrarion, he is at odds with everyone. It's not a good way to run a country, we already saw that the last time. So far, this one is looking to be exactly the same.
At least you're enjoying it. So someone's happy.
Anonymous
12/21/2024 10:12
Subject: Yet another GOP shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So at the end of the day, the Congress negotiated a deal, Musk tanked it, the House passed a clean bill and then the senate restored everything in the negotiated deal except the things Trump wanted were excluded.
Way to go Elon, or something.
Wrong. The senate did not restore everything in the negotiated deal. The specific funds in the 1500 mega deal were stripped out (example - nearly four percent pay raise for Congress) but congress retains the right to spend up to that level, piece meal. Yes, way to go Elon. Shine a light on the spending. If congress wants a pay raise, do a standalone bill so the American people can see it - don’t try to sneak it in in a CR.
We already knew that Congress has not passed a budget in a long time. Elon didn't shine a light on that. He shone a light on his unfamiliarity with how our government works. His ignorance and inability to recognize it.
Ridiculous take unless you support a Congress sneaking in a pay raise for itself under an emergency CR instead of a standalone vote.
The American people have voted for transparency. The days of 1500 page bills with sneaky items snuck in are over. This is a good thing for all of us, since it’s not just the left sneaking things in.
There was no sneakiness, nothing was hidden. It was all negotiated. You seem to be objecting to using a CR for an appropriations bill rather than a regular appropriations bill - but that's not a problem. It's just an alternative way to do things.
Anonymous
12/21/2024 10:11
Subject: Yet another GOP shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So at the end of the day, the Congress negotiated a deal, Musk tanked it, the House passed a clean bill and then the senate restored everything in the negotiated deal except the things Trump wanted were excluded.
Way to go Elon, or something.
Wrong. The senate did not restore everything in the negotiated deal. The specific funds in the 1500 mega deal were stripped out (example - nearly four percent pay raise for Congress) but congress retains the right to spend up to that level, piece meal. Yes, way to go Elon. Shine a light on the spending. If congress wants a pay raise, do a standalone bill so the American people can see it - don’t try to sneak it in in a CR.
We already knew that Congress has not passed a budget in a long time. Elon didn't shine a light on that. He shone a light on his unfamiliarity with how our government works. His ignorance and inability to recognize it.
Ridiculous take unless you support a Congress sneaking in a pay raise for itself under an emergency CR instead of a standalone vote.
The American people have voted for transparency. The days of 1500 page bills with sneaky items snuck in are over. This is a good thing for all of us, since it’s not just the left sneaking things in.
Which party controls the House and wrote the 1500 page bill?
If you don’t understand the power pull between the current Republicans in office and Trump, then you haven’t been following the news. The whole point is that the establishment GOP and the populist incoming class are at odds with each other. And don’t kid yourself - pork like the Boston pride senior housing fund isn’t coming from Republicans.
Anonymous
12/21/2024 10:09
Subject: Yet another GOP shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So at the end of the day, the Congress negotiated a deal, Musk tanked it, the House passed a clean bill and then the senate restored everything in the negotiated deal except the things Trump wanted were excluded.
Way to go Elon, or something.
Wrong. The senate did not restore everything in the negotiated deal. The specific funds in the 1500 mega deal were stripped out (example - nearly four percent pay raise for Congress) but congress retains the right to spend up to that level, piece meal. Yes, way to go Elon. Shine a light on the spending. If congress wants a pay raise, do a standalone bill so the American people can see it - don’t try to sneak it in in a CR.
Sure. They stripped out rounding errors (*golf clap*). At least Trump didn’t get what he wanted.
Rounding errors? The pork is gone. You seem to note understand what happened. It’s the difference between maintaining a credit limit and actual spending, and changing how and when it occurs. Get off MSNBC.