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Anonymous wrote:Hearing some Top GA clubs leaving in the very near future…

If you actually did, you’d name them. It’s an anonymous forum.

all top ga clubs are mls next, they wont leave.

A certain Atlanta based powerhouse, Tophat, has their boys in ECNL......

Tophat (and it's parents) have lobbied for years to get (back) into ECNL. It would seem like a no brainer for ECNL, Boys are excellent in ECNL Boys, Girls are by far the best in the GA and have proven themselves in every platform they have been in (ECNL, DA, GA, etc).

Deserved for sure. But if you look at the location of another ECNL club in the area, it’s almost certain that, that may be the reason for the denial of entry into ECNL. Why would you give competitive advantage to a club down the street from you?

There are already five ECNL clubs in the Atlanta area - no need to saturate it with one more.

I guess it comes down to is Tophat historically better than any of those other clubs in ATL? If so, should they not be in, and that club moved to RL or they go to GA? I understand there is not a perfect solution, but if a club like UFA for example isn't nearly as strong historically, would you not want Tophat instead?

TH and Ufa - not close in distance
TH and Gwinnett ECNL - not close in distance
TH and AFU - not close in distance

TH and CFire - very very close in distance… see the issue?

Anonymous wrote:Now that the leagues have laid out what they are (ECNL, GA, MLS-N) will all have 2 tiers.

Does anyone have a real insight into timelines for announcements of clubs etc? It seems every league announced things earlier last year.

Probably still working out deals. Trying to stop clubs from leaving. My guess

Now that the leagues have laid out what they are (ECNL, GA, MLS-N) will all have 2 tiers.

Does anyone have a real insight into timelines for announcements of clubs etc? It seems every league announced things earlier last year.

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Anonymous wrote:Champions Cup club every year
Roughly 1 national championship every year
2 clubs in the Southeast Conference
1st or 2nd place in every age group
College scouts at all events they participate in.

Seems like ECNL would have to provide more than just entry to bring them over.

ECNL SE is already packed as is with 16.

The conferences could re-align, with the numbers if you were to add a few more clubs you can split Florida into it's own conference (Florida United would be a great add to a Florida Conference). It would regionalize things more and save on some of the insane travel.

See south conference boys,

Currently 9 clubs. If girls side did the same, they could be at 10 with 2 tophat teams, or bring in 1 tophat team and 1 sc surf (boys in ecnl, very strong program)

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Anonymous wrote:Champions Cup club every year
Roughly 1 national championship every year
2 clubs in the Southeast Conference
1st or 2nd place in every age group
College scouts at all events they participate in.

Seems like ECNL would have to provide more than just entry to bring them over.

ECNL SE is already packed as is with 16.

The conferences could re-align, with the numbers if you were to add a few more clubs you can split Florida into it's own conference (Florida United would be a great add to a Florida Conference). It would regionalize things more and save on some of the insane travel.

I know people within ECNL MA wouldn't be opposed to not having to drive to Charlotte anymore, but with the rumors of an ECNL club departing the MA the numbers don't quite add up to that kind of restructuring without adding a club.

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Anonymous wrote:So many ECNL hats unable to see beyond their own backyard.

Why wouldn't Top Hat boys not want to go to MLSN?

ECNL Boys is stronger than MLS Next in that area (it is admittedly an uncommon thing, but its the reality there)

If this is true what about Atlanta United MLSN?

There is always the exception, MLS Clubs are even in a different category to anything in MLS Next as well. You could easily take those out and form their own league (and some would say its just a matter of time) and MLS Next loses a lot of appeal. But for now they are there and the MLS Clubs run the roost.

Atlanta United actually committed to ECNL back when the DA folded if you remember, before MLS came and slapped their wrist and forced them to go MLS-N. Any top end boy is going to seek to play for their local MLS club, no matter what league they are in (MLS Clubs could be in USYS and they would be top in terms of desirability for youth players with pro ambitions).

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Anonymous wrote:So many ECNL hats unable to see beyond their own backyard.

Why wouldn't Top Hat boys not want to go to MLSN?

ECNL Boys is stronger than MLS Next in that area (it is admittedly an uncommon thing, but its the reality there)

If this is true what about Atlanta United MLSN?

Outside of ATL academy, ECNLb rules.

In fact, ATLUTD pulls mostly from ECNL clubs down here

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Anonymous wrote:Champions Cup club every year
Roughly 1 national championship every year
2 clubs in the Southeast Conference
1st or 2nd place in every age group
College scouts at all events they participate in.

Seems like ECNL would have to provide more than just entry to bring them over.

ECNL SE is already packed as is with 16.

The conferences could re-align, with the numbers if you were to add a few more clubs you can split Florida into it's own conference (Florida United would be a great add to a Florida Conference). It would regionalize things more and save on some of the insane travel.

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Anonymous wrote:So many ECNL hats unable to see beyond their own backyard.

Why wouldn't Top Hat boys not want to go to MLSN?

ECNL Boys is stronger than MLS Next in that area (it is admittedly an uncommon thing, but its the reality there)

If this is true what about Atlanta United MLSN?

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Anonymous wrote:Hearing some Top GA clubs leaving in the very near future…

If you actually did, you’d name them. It’s an anonymous forum.

all top ga clubs are mls next, they wont leave.

A certain Atlanta based powerhouse, Tophat, has their boys in ECNL......

Tophat (and it's parents) have lobbied for years to get (back) into ECNL. It would seem like a no brainer for ECNL, Boys are excellent in ECNL Boys, Girls are by far the best in the GA and have proven themselves in every platform they have been in (ECNL, DA, GA, etc).

Deserved for sure. But if you look at the location of another ECNL club in the area, it’s almost certain that, that may be the reason for the denial of entry into ECNL. Why would you give competitive advantage to a club down the street from you?

There are already five ECNL clubs in the Atlanta area - no need to saturate it with one more.

Florida needs its own conference.

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Anonymous wrote:Hearing some Top GA clubs leaving in the very near future…

If you actually did, you’d name them. It’s an anonymous forum.

all top ga clubs are mls next, they wont leave.

A certain Atlanta based powerhouse, Tophat, has their boys in ECNL......

Tophat (and it's parents) have lobbied for years to get (back) into ECNL. It would seem like a no brainer for ECNL, Boys are excellent in ECNL Boys, Girls are by far the best in the GA and have proven themselves in every platform they have been in (ECNL, DA, GA, etc).

Deserved for sure. But if you look at the location of another ECNL club in the area, it’s almost certain that, that may be the reason for the denial of entry into ECNL. Why would you give competitive advantage to a club down the street from you?

There are already five ECNL clubs in the Atlanta area - no need to saturate it with one more.

I guess it comes down to is Tophat historically better than any of those other clubs in ATL? If so, should they not be in, and that club moved to RL or they go to GA? I understand there is not a perfect solution, but if a club like UFA for example isn't nearly as strong historically, would you not want Tophat instead?

Anonymous wrote:Champions Cup club every year
Roughly 1 national championship every year
2 clubs in the Southeast Conference
1st or 2nd place in every age group
College scouts at all events they participate in.

Seems like ECNL would have to provide more than just entry to bring them over.

ECNL SE is already packed as is with 16.

Anonymous wrote:Champions Cup club every year
Roughly 1 national championship every year
2 clubs in the Southeast Conference
1st or 2nd place in every age group
College scouts at all events they participate in.

Seems like ECNL would have to provide more than just entry to bring them over.

That is a decision that only Tophat can make as to whether the value of what they get in the Girls Academy would out-weigh the value they would get in the ECNL & ECNL-RL (important to note RL too, as their 2nd teams would have to fold into RL). It isn't unprecedented, as Nationals & Lonestar both had two spots in the GA before moving to ECNL & ECNL-RL.

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Anonymous wrote:Hearing some Top GA clubs leaving in the very near future…

If you actually did, you’d name them. It’s an anonymous forum.

all top ga clubs are mls next, they wont leave.

A certain Atlanta based powerhouse, Tophat, has their boys in ECNL......

Tophat (and it's parents) have lobbied for years to get (back) into ECNL. It would seem like a no brainer for ECNL, Boys are excellent in ECNL Boys, Girls are by far the best in the GA and have proven themselves in every platform they have been in (ECNL, DA, GA, etc).

Deserved for sure. But if you look at the location of another ECNL club in the area, it’s almost certain that, that may be the reason for the denial of entry into ECNL. Why would you give competitive advantage to a club down the street from you?

There are already five ECNL clubs in the Atlanta area - no need to saturate it with one more.

Champions Cup club every year
Roughly 1 national championship every year
2 clubs in the Southeast Conference
1st or 2nd place in every age group
College scouts at all events they participate in.

Seems like ECNL would have to provide more than just entry to bring them over.