Anonymous
01/18/2023 14:49
Subject: Redshirting August boy?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APP recommends full day K.
https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/35/8/30/24929/Report-on-full-day-kindergarten?redirectedFrom=fulltext
APP study on holding back
https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/16/4/26/18381/Redshirting-gets-low-marks-from-experts-on-school?redirectedFrom=fulltext
Another APP article
https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/preschool/Pages/Is-Your-Child-Ready-for-School.aspx?_ga=2.11910322.72451483.1673973284-889523071.1673973284&_gl=1*1qyaen5*_ga*ODg5NTIzMDcxLjE2NzM5NzMyODQ.*_ga_FD9D3XZVQQ*MTY3Mzk3MzI4NC4xLjEuMTY3Mzk3MzY5OC4wLjAuMA..
Funny. The experts don’t seem to agree with holding back kids.
Funny how you are not at all ashamed of showing how little you can actually read.
The anti redshirt nut considers herself right up there with the celebrated experts of the APP. She's a legend in her own warped mind.
We should get the anti-redshirters to try math again. High entertainment value.
You are saying your kids have social and emotional delays and got them no help. That is neglect. Your kids could not get into these privates otherwise as they were not what you or the schools considered perfect.
I’m convinced this poster is a poll whether they realize it or not. Delaying the youngest kids in a grade is because of maturity issues due to being ten to twelve (or more) months younger than a portion of their classmates. That is not a delay. That’s developmental maturity, a concept you cannot seem to grasp.
Private schools will help guide you through this process to determine the best placement for children with borderline birthdays to thrive. So take your special needs pushing elsewhere. There’s nothing wrong with special needs. But it’s entirely different from maturity based on being on the younger side of a 12 month spectrum. And by the way, sometimes kids with special needs who are young for the grade also benefit from extra time as they can actually be delayed and their placement would be appropriate in either grade. So just get a life and stop putting labels on kids, you loser.
Not the poster you’re replying to but then doesn’t that just turn a different cohort of kids (say, the may and June kids) into the youngest kids in a 12 month span (or a 14 month span thanks to redshirting) who then would ALSO benefit from being held back, because it’s tough for those kids to be in a class with kids who are that much older and more mature, if they themselves are a little immature? When does it stop? With the March/ April kids? Where is the cutoff for redshirting being ok? Because if all august kids redshirt, then July is the new august. So when July kids start redshirting, June becomes the new august. What is the cutoff??
Because the “real” cutoff is sept 1 (or whatever date it is in your own county). But I feel like a lot of redshirting parents will say “oh we redshirted our july boy but it’s crazy to see these May kids redshirted”. So people who think that way clearly don’t really think parents should be able to choose when their kids start school, they just want the cutoff to favor their child. That’s it.
Yea, it does create a new cohort of kids who are the youngest in the class. Some kids will do okay as the youngest, as some will benefit from being the oldest. What seems less fair that taking it on a kid by kid basis is essentially making birthdays a lottery system- let’s assume the 9/1 cut off above: if you’re born late in the summer, you’re out of luck compared to the September and October kids. There will usually be statistically proven disadvantages of being the youngest. If your kid falls into that bracket, it’s good to have some flexibility so they don’t end up a statistic. May parents will cry about this because now it makes their kid potentially younger, but even that is sort of silly because a) they won’t be and b) the kids who are redshirted are generally outliers and do not comprise close to the majority of the class.
Anonymous
01/18/2023 14:45
Subject: Redshirting August boy?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APP recommends full day K.
https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/35/8/30/24929/Report-on-full-day-kindergarten?redirectedFrom=fulltext
APP study on holding back
https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/16/4/26/18381/Redshirting-gets-low-marks-from-experts-on-school?redirectedFrom=fulltext
Another APP article
https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/preschool/Pages/Is-Your-Child-Ready-for-School.aspx?_ga=2.11910322.72451483.1673973284-889523071.1673973284&_gl=1*1qyaen5*_ga*ODg5NTIzMDcxLjE2NzM5NzMyODQ.*_ga_FD9D3XZVQQ*MTY3Mzk3MzI4NC4xLjEuMTY3Mzk3MzY5OC4wLjAuMA..
Funny. The experts don’t seem to agree with holding back kids.
Funny how you are not at all ashamed of showing how little you can actually read.
The anti redshirt nut considers herself right up there with the celebrated experts of the APP. She's a legend in her own warped mind.
We should get the anti-redshirters to try math again. High entertainment value.
You are saying your kids have social and emotional delays and got them no help. That is neglect. Your kids could not get into these privates otherwise as they were not what you or the schools considered perfect.
I’m convinced this poster is a poll whether they realize it or not. Delaying the youngest kids in a grade is because of maturity issues due to being ten to twelve (or more) months younger than a portion of their classmates. That is not a delay. That’s developmental maturity, a concept you cannot seem to grasp.
Private schools will help guide you through this process to determine the best placement for children with borderline birthdays to thrive. So take your special needs pushing elsewhere. There’s nothing wrong with special needs. But it’s entirely different from maturity based on being on the younger side of a 12 month spectrum. And by the way, sometimes kids with special needs who are young for the grade also benefit from extra time as they can actually be delayed and their placement would be appropriate in either grade. So just get a life and stop putting labels on kids, you loser.
Not the poster you’re replying to but then doesn’t that just turn a different cohort of kids (say, the may and June kids) into the youngest kids in a 12 month span (or a 14 month span thanks to redshirting) who then would ALSO benefit from being held back, because it’s tough for those kids to be in a class with kids who are that much older and more mature, if they themselves are a little immature? When does it stop? With the March/ April kids? Where is the cutoff for redshirting being ok? Because if all august kids redshirt, then July is the new august. So when July kids start redshirting, June becomes the new august. What is the cutoff??
Because the “real” cutoff is sept 1 (or whatever date it is in your own county). But I feel like a lot of redshirting parents will say “oh we redshirted our july boy but it’s crazy to see these May kids redshirted”. So people who think that way clearly don’t really think parents should be able to choose when their kids start school, they just want the cutoff to favor their child. That’s it.
I have a July redshirted kid. I could not care less that there are March, April, May kids in his grade older than him. Why would I? A lot of redshirted parents don't say what you say they are saying. No need to put words in the mouths of others. I have 2 non redshirted kids as well and don't really know or care what their peers birthdays are.
Anonymous
01/18/2023 14:43
Subject: Redshirting August boy?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APP recommends full day K.
https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/35/8/30/24929/Report-on-full-day-kindergarten?redirectedFrom=fulltext
APP study on holding back
https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/16/4/26/18381/Redshirting-gets-low-marks-from-experts-on-school?redirectedFrom=fulltext
Another APP article
https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/preschool/Pages/Is-Your-Child-Ready-for-School.aspx?_ga=2.11910322.72451483.1673973284-889523071.1673973284&_gl=1*1qyaen5*_ga*ODg5NTIzMDcxLjE2NzM5NzMyODQ.*_ga_FD9D3XZVQQ*MTY3Mzk3MzI4NC4xLjEuMTY3Mzk3MzY5OC4wLjAuMA..
Funny. The experts don’t seem to agree with holding back kids.
Funny how you are not at all ashamed of showing how little you can actually read.
The anti redshirt nut considers herself right up there with the celebrated experts of the APP. She's a legend in her own warped mind.
We should get the anti-redshirters to try math again. High entertainment value.
You are saying your kids have social and emotional delays and got them no help. That is neglect. Your kids could not get into these privates otherwise as they were not what you or the schools considered perfect.
You're the only person talking about emotional delays. What you mean are development delays. How can you pretend to be some kind of expert giving parents advice when it's perfectly clear you're not a parent yourself? You refer to emotional delays, APP, and now neglect, all words you use incorrectly or inappropriately. Your head is so far up your own ass you have no idea that you're a joke on here with your "advice" as if anyone would actually take it seriously. But, thanks for the continuing laughs, I guess. That's all your contributions are good for.
Anonymous
01/18/2023 14:37
Subject: Redshirting August boy?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APP recommends full day K.
https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/35/8/30/24929/Report-on-full-day-kindergarten?redirectedFrom=fulltext
APP study on holding back
https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/16/4/26/18381/Redshirting-gets-low-marks-from-experts-on-school?redirectedFrom=fulltext
Another APP article
https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/preschool/Pages/Is-Your-Child-Ready-for-School.aspx?_ga=2.11910322.72451483.1673973284-889523071.1673973284&_gl=1*1qyaen5*_ga*ODg5NTIzMDcxLjE2NzM5NzMyODQ.*_ga_FD9D3XZVQQ*MTY3Mzk3MzI4NC4xLjEuMTY3Mzk3MzY5OC4wLjAuMA..
Funny. The experts don’t seem to agree with holding back kids.
Funny how you are not at all ashamed of showing how little you can actually read.
The anti redshirt nut considers herself right up there with the celebrated experts of the APP. She's a legend in her own warped mind.
We should get the anti-redshirters to try math again. High entertainment value.
You are saying your kids have social and emotional delays and got them no help. That is neglect. Your kids could not get into these privates otherwise as they were not what you or the schools considered perfect.
I’m convinced this poster is a poll whether they realize it or not. Delaying the youngest kids in a grade is because of maturity issues due to being ten to twelve (or more) months younger than a portion of their classmates. That is not a delay. That’s developmental maturity, a concept you cannot seem to grasp.
Private schools will help guide you through this process to determine the best placement for children with borderline birthdays to thrive. So take your special needs pushing elsewhere. There’s nothing wrong with special needs. But it’s entirely different from maturity based on being on the younger side of a 12 month spectrum. And by the way, sometimes kids with special needs who are young for the grade also benefit from extra time as they can actually be delayed and their placement would be appropriate in either grade. So just get a life and stop putting labels on kids, you loser.
Not the poster you’re replying to but then doesn’t that just turn a different cohort of kids (say, the may and June kids) into the youngest kids in a 12 month span (or a 14 month span thanks to redshirting) who then would ALSO benefit from being held back, because it’s tough for those kids to be in a class with kids who are that much older and more mature, if they themselves are a little immature? When does it stop? With the March/ April kids? Where is the cutoff for redshirting being ok? Because if all august kids redshirt, then July is the new august. So when July kids start redshirting, June becomes the new august. What is the cutoff??
Because the “real” cutoff is sept 1 (or whatever date it is in your own county). But I feel like a lot of redshirting parents will say “oh we redshirted our july boy but it’s crazy to see these May kids redshirted”. So people who think that way clearly don’t really think parents should be able to choose when their kids start school, they just want the cutoff to favor their child. That’s it.
Anonymous
01/18/2023 14:32
Subject: Re:Redshirting August boy?
The kids I know who redshirted, their families are exactly the type id expect to redshirt their kids. That’s all. A lot of them now complain that they wish area sports were grade based, not birth year based, because “it is hard to always have him be with the 3rd graders when he is a second grader”. Mind you this is for , say, August birthday boys who are basically in the middle, age-wise, for a birth year based sports team lol.
Anyways like I said whenever I find out a kid was held back/ is a year old for his grade it’s always “oh, well yeah knowing his parents that makes sense”.
Anyways like I said whenever I find out a kid was held back/ is a year old for his grade it’s always “oh, well yeah knowing his parents that makes sense”.
Anonymous
01/18/2023 14:23
Subject: Redshirting August boy?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APP recommends full day K.
https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/35/8/30/24929/Report-on-full-day-kindergarten?redirectedFrom=fulltext
APP study on holding back
https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/16/4/26/18381/Redshirting-gets-low-marks-from-experts-on-school?redirectedFrom=fulltext
Another APP article
https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/preschool/Pages/Is-Your-Child-Ready-for-School.aspx?_ga=2.11910322.72451483.1673973284-889523071.1673973284&_gl=1*1qyaen5*_ga*ODg5NTIzMDcxLjE2NzM5NzMyODQ.*_ga_FD9D3XZVQQ*MTY3Mzk3MzI4NC4xLjEuMTY3Mzk3MzY5OC4wLjAuMA..
Funny. The experts don’t seem to agree with holding back kids.
Funny how you are not at all ashamed of showing how little you can actually read.
The anti redshirt nut considers herself right up there with the celebrated experts of the APP. She's a legend in her own warped mind.
We should get the anti-redshirters to try math again. High entertainment value.
You are saying your kids have social and emotional delays and got them no help. That is neglect. Your kids could not get into these privates otherwise as they were not what you or the schools considered perfect.
I’m convinced this poster is a poll whether they realize it or not. Delaying the youngest kids in a grade is because of maturity issues due to being ten to twelve (or more) months younger than a portion of their classmates. That is not a delay. That’s developmental maturity, a concept you cannot seem to grasp.
Private schools will help guide you through this process to determine the best placement for children with borderline birthdays to thrive. So take your special needs pushing elsewhere. There’s nothing wrong with special needs. But it’s entirely different from maturity based on being on the younger side of a 12 month spectrum. And by the way, sometimes kids with special needs who are young for the grade also benefit from extra time as they can actually be delayed and their placement would be appropriate in either grade. So just get a life and stop putting labels on kids, you loser.
Anonymous
01/18/2023 13:04
Subject: Redshirting August boy?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APP recommends full day K.
https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/35/8/30/24929/Report-on-full-day-kindergarten?redirectedFrom=fulltext
APP study on holding back
https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/16/4/26/18381/Redshirting-gets-low-marks-from-experts-on-school?redirectedFrom=fulltext
Another APP article
https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/preschool/Pages/Is-Your-Child-Ready-for-School.aspx?_ga=2.11910322.72451483.1673973284-889523071.1673973284&_gl=1*1qyaen5*_ga*ODg5NTIzMDcxLjE2NzM5NzMyODQ.*_ga_FD9D3XZVQQ*MTY3Mzk3MzI4NC4xLjEuMTY3Mzk3MzY5OC4wLjAuMA..
Funny. The experts don’t seem to agree with holding back kids.
Funny how you are not at all ashamed of showing how little you can actually read.
The anti redshirt nut considers herself right up there with the celebrated experts of the APP. She's a legend in her own warped mind.
We should get the anti-redshirters to try math again. High entertainment value.
You are saying your kids have social and emotional delays and got them no help. That is neglect. Your kids could not get into these privates otherwise as they were not what you or the schools considered perfect.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Man, anti-redshirters are comedy gold. Love these threads.
Anonymous
01/18/2023 13:02
Subject: Re:Redshirting August boy?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My August son basically "failed" his entrance evaluation for first grade. The school said he wasn't ready, even though he was already reading. He was very shy and anxious, and kind of shut down during the evaluation. They recommended pre-first, something I didn't even know existed before that. At the time, I thought it was just a scam to get an extra year of $$ from us if we went to the school. In the end, we did it though, and it was easily the best thing for him. He did the pre-first year, then first grade was with many of those kids and most were within 3-6 months in terms of age. He wasn't the oldest, wasn't the youngest.
The class above him, which would have been his if we sent him right to first grade, turned out to be very clique-y and just not all that nice. My son's class had great kids and great parents. And we got an extra year with him before he moves away to college and beyond. He's in HS now and in hindsight, that pre-first year was one of the best decisions we made.
WTH is "pre-first". Are you in the US? You mean Kindergarten which every school has?
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=pre-first
Anonymous
01/18/2023 13:00
Subject: Redshirting August boy?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APP recommends full day K.
https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/35/8/30/24929/Report-on-full-day-kindergarten?redirectedFrom=fulltext
APP study on holding back
https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/16/4/26/18381/Redshirting-gets-low-marks-from-experts-on-school?redirectedFrom=fulltext
Another APP article
https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/preschool/Pages/Is-Your-Child-Ready-for-School.aspx?_ga=2.11910322.72451483.1673973284-889523071.1673973284&_gl=1*1qyaen5*_ga*ODg5NTIzMDcxLjE2NzM5NzMyODQ.*_ga_FD9D3XZVQQ*MTY3Mzk3MzI4NC4xLjEuMTY3Mzk3MzY5OC4wLjAuMA..
Funny. The experts don’t seem to agree with holding back kids.
Funny how you are not at all ashamed of showing how little you can actually read.
The anti redshirt nut considers herself right up there with the celebrated experts of the APP. She's a legend in her own warped mind.
We should get the anti-redshirters to try math again. High entertainment value.
You are saying your kids have social and emotional delays and got them no help. That is neglect. Your kids could not get into these privates otherwise as they were not what you or the schools considered perfect.
Anonymous
01/18/2023 12:57
Subject: Re:Redshirting August boy?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My August son basically "failed" his entrance evaluation for first grade. The school said he wasn't ready, even though he was already reading. He was very shy and anxious, and kind of shut down during the evaluation. They recommended pre-first, something I didn't even know existed before that. At the time, I thought it was just a scam to get an extra year of $$ from us if we went to the school. In the end, we did it though, and it was easily the best thing for him. He did the pre-first year, then first grade was with many of those kids and most were within 3-6 months in terms of age. He wasn't the oldest, wasn't the youngest.
The class above him, which would have been his if we sent him right to first grade, turned out to be very clique-y and just not all that nice. My son's class had great kids and great parents. And we got an extra year with him before he moves away to college and beyond. He's in HS now and in hindsight, that pre-first year was one of the best decisions we made.
WTH is "pre-first". Are you in the US? You mean Kindergarten which every school has?
It’s a thing in Baltimore. It’s bizzare but they add an extra grade to take more kids in. Money grab.
Anonymous
01/18/2023 12:35
Subject: Redshirting August boy?
Do it!! Our June birthday boy redshirted, and we have never looked back - the best decision for him. He is much more confident and happier. We did it more for social aspects. Boys can catch up academically, but socially, it's a burden for them even as they get older. GL!
Anonymous
01/18/2023 12:33
Subject: Re:Redshirting August boy?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My August son basically "failed" his entrance evaluation for first grade. The school said he wasn't ready, even though he was already reading. He was very shy and anxious, and kind of shut down during the evaluation. They recommended pre-first, something I didn't even know existed before that. At the time, I thought it was just a scam to get an extra year of $$ from us if we went to the school. In the end, we did it though, and it was easily the best thing for him. He did the pre-first year, then first grade was with many of those kids and most were within 3-6 months in terms of age. He wasn't the oldest, wasn't the youngest.
The class above him, which would have been his if we sent him right to first grade, turned out to be very clique-y and just not all that nice. My son's class had great kids and great parents. And we got an extra year with him before he moves away to college and beyond. He's in HS now and in hindsight, that pre-first year was one of the best decisions we made.
interestingly, what worked really well for your child was being in a class with a small spread of a few months, rather than with the extra-large spread that regular redshirting creates.
Not that PP but do you, uh, understand that one does not stay in the exact same pre-first cohort throughout high school? I’m never sure with some of the anti-redshirt posters if they have a grasp on the basics.
Anonymous
01/18/2023 12:23
Subject: Re:Redshirting August boy?
Anonymous wrote:My August son basically "failed" his entrance evaluation for first grade. The school said he wasn't ready, even though he was already reading. He was very shy and anxious, and kind of shut down during the evaluation. They recommended pre-first, something I didn't even know existed before that. At the time, I thought it was just a scam to get an extra year of $$ from us if we went to the school. In the end, we did it though, and it was easily the best thing for him. He did the pre-first year, then first grade was with many of those kids and most were within 3-6 months in terms of age. He wasn't the oldest, wasn't the youngest.
The class above him, which would have been his if we sent him right to first grade, turned out to be very clique-y and just not all that nice. My son's class had great kids and great parents. And we got an extra year with him before he moves away to college and beyond. He's in HS now and in hindsight, that pre-first year was one of the best decisions we made.
WTH is "pre-first". Are you in the US? You mean Kindergarten which every school has?
Anonymous
01/18/2023 12:12
Subject: Re:Redshirting August boy?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My August son basically "failed" his entrance evaluation for first grade. The school said he wasn't ready, even though he was already reading. He was very shy and anxious, and kind of shut down during the evaluation. They recommended pre-first, something I didn't even know existed before that. At the time, I thought it was just a scam to get an extra year of $$ from us if we went to the school. In the end, we did it though, and it was easily the best thing for him. He did the pre-first year, then first grade was with many of those kids and most were within 3-6 months in terms of age. He wasn't the oldest, wasn't the youngest.
The class above him, which would have been his if we sent him right to first grade, turned out to be very clique-y and just not all that nice. My son's class had great kids and great parents. And we got an extra year with him before he moves away to college and beyond. He's in HS now and in hindsight, that pre-first year was one of the best decisions we made.
interestingly, what worked really well for your child was being in a class with a small spread of a few months, rather than with the extra-large spread that regular redshirting creates.
What worked well was having another year to work on k "skills" AND being with kids in a similar place developmentally - they all happened to be the kids referred to "pre-first" instead of rolling into first with the other kids.
Anonymous
01/18/2023 11:52
Subject: Re:Redshirting August boy?
Anonymous wrote:My August son basically "failed" his entrance evaluation for first grade. The school said he wasn't ready, even though he was already reading. He was very shy and anxious, and kind of shut down during the evaluation. They recommended pre-first, something I didn't even know existed before that. At the time, I thought it was just a scam to get an extra year of $$ from us if we went to the school. In the end, we did it though, and it was easily the best thing for him. He did the pre-first year, then first grade was with many of those kids and most were within 3-6 months in terms of age. He wasn't the oldest, wasn't the youngest.
The class above him, which would have been his if we sent him right to first grade, turned out to be very clique-y and just not all that nice. My son's class had great kids and great parents. And we got an extra year with him before he moves away to college and beyond. He's in HS now and in hindsight, that pre-first year was one of the best decisions we made.
interestingly, what worked really well for your child was being in a class with a small spread of a few months, rather than with the extra-large spread that regular redshirting creates.