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We need strong action from the government to make this work but individuals need to be realistic and support the changes necessary.


What action? What changes? Be specific for God’s sake.


Electric car subsidies to match the dollar amount that we subsidize oil for starters. Level the playing field instead of giving billions of dollars to oil companies that then gouge us in return. Massive investment in high speed rail and local public transportation hubs. Efficiency regulations on all new household energy products.

The only reason all of the above has not been done already (which would have put us in a much better position at this time) is that Republicans have blocked every single step away from our dependence on oil. As for the average citizen, they need to get behind efficient technology instead of whining about it. Remember when everyone on the right fought against and complained about LED light bulbs?


Please tell me all about your most recent ride on Amtrak or Metro. Do you really think that throwing more money at their inefficiency and ineptitude will improve things?


That’s just a lame red herring. We can have efficient and high quality public rail like Europe and Japan. Nobody wants to “throw money at their inefficiency”. Are you saying that we are incapable of operating public rail because we are Americans? We just cannot do it but other modern countries can?


You still didn’t say anything about your most recent ride on Amtrak or Metro. Says it all.

Frankly, no, American cannot do this well. Our country is so spread out and we love the privacy and safety of our own vehicles. Who
would want to be stuck on a train for days to get to California from here?

Amtrak and Metro are unreliable and the administrations are incompetent. There is no way to determine if someone is carrying a gun onboard, either. Filthy, smelly, crime-ridden.

How much money will fix that?

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Anonymous wrote:Jen Psaki next will advise putting more water in ramen noodles to extend the serving size, that’s how much this administration cares about those who are struggling due to inflation and gas prices.

And what is your side proposing?

Anonymous wrote:Jen Psaki next will advise putting more water in ramen noodles to extend the serving size, that’s how much this administration cares about those who are struggling due to inflation and gas prices.

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Anonymous wrote:For all you LWNJs who don't realize for every battery in an EV, it takes 30k lbs of ore to make 30lbs of Cobalt in each 1,000 lb battery. Don't worry though, these kids in Congo love working for $2 per day!

LWNJ here. Point taken. Yes, there is indeed a dark side to green energy, and we should all learn more about it and strive to find better alternatives that don't hurt the environment or humans. But I don't believe for a moment that right-wingers GAF about children in Congo--or any other developing country. Rather, I think this is a useful talking point for right-wingers who want to continue our nation's dependence on fossil fuels like it's still the 1950s. What are your party's big ideas for the future of energy?

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Anonymous wrote:The problem with gas prices is not that you will be "forced" to buy an EV, or that a mom will have a problem to fill her Honda Odyssey. The problem is a little big bigger. More expensive oil means that farmers need more money to fill their machines. Truck drivers will need more money to transport the food. Stores will need to raise their prices to offset the growing cost of delivery. Your cleaning lady or lawn service will need more money to come to your place, etc.

Food and goods and service will become more expensive. Many people will buy less, many will cancel different services... Can you see the chain reaction? Come on, we were good at thinking about extended consequences back in the days of flattening the curve. This is no different.

Low prices are not sustainable long term. We need to adapt. Consume less.

The only problem is that nobody wants to be the one that actually has to consume less. We are just silly apes that can’t help ourselves even though we know where it leads.

There is such a thing as lack of cash flow killing an economy.

There is also such a thing as climate change and an epidemic of persistent chemicals and micro plastics in our environment caused by our overconsumption.

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Anonymous wrote:Oil companies are making so much money that their ceos are getting raises and they are doing stock buybacks, making shareholders very happy.

It's free market.

Yep. And a free market never has the best interests of consumers as a goal.

DP but while there are free market forces at play, there is not and and there has never been a free market. The oil industry as it exists today would not have been possible without government interference.

Yes isn’t it insane that cars today get about the same mpg as they did when they were invented over a hundred years ago? So many technological advances in this time (over a century!) but mpg hasn’t budged. How is this possible?

Uh, because cars have gotten bigger and heavier because of regulations. It takes energy to move heavier stuff. A 1988 Honda Civic weighed 2000 pounds and got 40 mpg with a small 4 cylinder motor. A 2018 Civic weighs 3000 pounds and has a small 4 cylinder motor. It will get less mpg based on that alone

If regulations made cars bigger and heavier then why are European cars smaller, more efficient and lighter? Germany has far more regulation than the USA!

Just admit that you make up nonsense out of thin air to argue!

Why can’t you import those smaller, lighter, German cars? Because they don’t pass US safety standards…..

It’s not made up, a quick google search will show you.

US car accident deaths per capita at 4x the rate of Germany. The lighter cars apparently are perfectly safe.

Anonymous wrote:For all you LWNJs who don't realize for every battery in an EV, it takes 30k lbs of ore to make 30lbs of Cobalt in each 1,000 lb battery. Don't worry though, these kids in Congo love working for $2 per day!

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We need strong action from the government to make this work but individuals need to be realistic and support the changes necessary.

What action? What changes? Be specific for God’s sake.

Electric car subsidies to match the dollar amount that we subsidize oil for starters. Level the playing field instead of giving billions of dollars to oil companies that then gouge us in return. Massive investment in high speed rail and local public transportation hubs. Efficiency regulations on all new household energy products.

The only reason all of the above has not been done already (which would have put us in a much better position at this time) is that Republicans have blocked every single step away from our dependence on oil. As for the average citizen, they need to get behind efficient technology instead of whining about it. Remember when everyone on the right fought against and complained about LED light bulbs?

Please tell me all about your most recent ride on Amtrak or Metro. Do you really think that throwing more money at their inefficiency and ineptitude will improve things?

That’s just a lame red herring. We can have efficient and high quality public rail like Europe and Japan. Nobody wants to “throw money at their inefficiency”. Are you saying that we are incapable of operating public rail because we are Americans? We just cannot do it but other modern countries can?

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Anonymous wrote:Oil companies are making so much money that their ceos are getting raises and they are doing stock buybacks, making shareholders very happy.

It's free market.

Yep. And a free market never has the best interests of consumers as a goal.

DP but while there are free market forces at play, there is not and and there has never been a free market. The oil industry as it exists today would not have been possible without government interference.

Yes isn’t it insane that cars today get about the same mpg as they did when they were invented over a hundred years ago? So many technological advances in this time (over a century!) but mpg hasn’t budged. How is this possible?

Uh, because cars have gotten bigger and heavier because of regulations. It takes energy to move heavier stuff. A 1988 Honda Civic weighed 2000 pounds and got 40 mpg with a small 4 cylinder motor. A 2018 Civic weighs 3000 pounds and has a small 4 cylinder motor. It will get less mpg based on that alone

If regulations made cars bigger and heavier then why are European cars smaller, more efficient and lighter? Germany has far more regulation than the USA!

Just admit that you make up nonsense out of thin air to argue!

Why can’t you import those smaller, lighter, German cars? Because they don’t pass US safety standards…..

It’s not made up, a quick google search will show you.

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Anonymous wrote:Oil companies are making so much money that their ceos are getting raises and they are doing stock buybacks, making shareholders very happy.

It's free market.

Yep. And a free market never has the best interests of consumers as a goal.

DP but while there are free market forces at play, there is not and and there has never been a free market. The oil industry as it exists today would not have been possible without government interference.

Yes isn’t it insane that cars today get about the same mpg as they did when they were invented over a hundred years ago? So many technological advances in this time (over a century!) but mpg hasn’t budged. How is this possible?

Uh, because cars have gotten bigger and heavier because of regulations. It takes energy to move heavier stuff. A 1988 Honda Civic weighed 2000 pounds and got 40 mpg with a small 4 cylinder motor. A 2018 Civic weighs 3000 pounds and has a small 4 cylinder motor. It will get less mpg based on that alone

If regulations made cars bigger and heavier then why are European cars smaller, more efficient and lighter? Germany has far more regulation than the USA!

Just admit that you make up nonsense out of thin air to argue!

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Anonymous wrote:Based on the WSJ poll, GOP will the party that fights the real war when it comes. You sissy democrats will hike up your skirts and drive off in your electric cars.

We know you RWNJs re literally dying to have an excuse to use your guns on real people. So much more fun than going to the gun range or just shooting deer.