Anonymous wrote:If you put non asian or non white does it make a difference

Lol probably would but there is no place on the form for that. The school automatically submits that info so you don’t need to.

If you put non asian or non white does it make a difference

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone’s child gotten in with a nnat score of 106?

That’s literally the definition of average. It would be a travesty if someone got in with that and basically proof that admissions is a total sham

If the Cogat and/or WISC were 106, then it would be very hard to believe that the child should be in AAP. But the NNAT is such a strange test, it has very little value at all. It certainly wouldn't be a travesty for a child with a 106 NNAT and other higher scores to be admitted.

I probably shouldn’t admit this, but my child got in with a 108 nnat. DC was principal placed. I would never disclose that to parents at the school.

"Principal placed" is not "getting in"

Well, he's in level IV. I don't know what to tell you, it's on his report card. Also, he is eligible to attend the AAP center school.

Principal placed means that they are in the Local Level IV program because the Principal placed them there. Level IV will be checked on the report card. Only kids selected by the Committee can attend Centers, not Principal Paced kids.

My DD didn't get in - her test scores were so so, her second grade teacher couldn't stand her and her GBRS was horrendous. But she was principal-placed. In fifth grade I applied again because I wanted her to have a chance to go to a center middle school where most of her friends were likely to go. I submitted two years of report cards with all 4s, her SOL scores and nothing else. She got in.

Aren’t reports cards and SOLs submitted anyway?

I don't actually know. This is what I put in the package when I did the parent referral. I should clarify that by "nothing else" I meant no other test scores. I did submit work samples and a couple of awards she won.

Do you think the awards made a difference?
Math awards? Art? Writing contest?

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone’s child gotten in with a nnat score of 106?

That’s literally the definition of average. It would be a travesty if someone got in with that and basically proof that admissions is a total sham

If the Cogat and/or WISC were 106, then it would be very hard to believe that the child should be in AAP. But the NNAT is such a strange test, it has very little value at all. It certainly wouldn't be a travesty for a child with a 106 NNAT and other higher scores to be admitted.

I probably shouldn’t admit this, but my child got in with a 108 nnat. DC was principal placed. I would never disclose that to parents at the school.

"Principal placed" is not "getting in"

Well, he's in level IV. I don't know what to tell you, it's on his report card. Also, he is eligible to attend the AAP center school.

Principal placed means that they are in the Local Level IV program because the Principal placed them there. Level IV will be checked on the report card. Only kids selected by the Committee can attend Centers, not Principal Paced kids.

My DD didn't get in - her test scores were so so, her second grade teacher couldn't stand her and her GBRS was horrendous. But she was principal-placed. In fifth grade I applied again because I wanted her to have a chance to go to a center middle school where most of her friends were likely to go. I submitted two years of report cards with all 4s, her SOL scores and nothing else. She got in.

Aren’t reports cards and SOLs submitted anyway?

I don't actually know. This is what I put in the package when I did the parent referral. I should clarify that by "nothing else" I meant no other test scores. I did submit work samples and a couple of awards she won.

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Anonymous wrote:Can a child be principal placed at a center school if their base school is a center school?

Nope. We are at a center school, and unfortunately, NO. This is why I am so regretting being at a Center school now. Kids with way lower schools were admitted at local schools. Center schools DO have space issues, thus there is a capacity limit. Locals can send the kids to other schools and also principal place. The whole system is incredibly unfair in this regard.

Is that only for your school or all centers? This is so interesting!! I had no idea.

ALL Centers.

This doesn’t make sense though if selection happens through a central committee?

It is made by the Central Committee and its supposed to be blind. I think what the previous poster is saying is unfair is that if you are not selected for Level IV and you are at a Center school, you have no chance of being pupil placed by the Principal. While if you go to a school with a Local Level IV, you could have 2 chances of getting in. The first way is being accepted in the AAP program via the Central Committee. The 2nd way is by being pupil placed into the Level IV class by the principal. Usually in a local program, there are not enough kids to fill out a class. So, to make the class numbers similar, the principal can pick students that they feel can handle the rigors of Level IV without the official designation. The downside of this is that it is a year to year determination. Unlike a student who is in the Level IV program, a student pupil placed could be kicked out of the class for poor performance, space issues, etc.

And a pupil placed kid doesn’t get AAP services in middle school even if they were principal placed in level IV.

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Anonymous wrote:Can a child be principal placed at a center school if their base school is a center school?

Nope. We are at a center school, and unfortunately, NO. This is why I am so regretting being at a Center school now. Kids with way lower schools were admitted at local schools. Center schools DO have space issues, thus there is a capacity limit. Locals can send the kids to other schools and also principal place. The whole system is incredibly unfair in this regard.

Is that only for your school or all centers? This is so interesting!! I had no idea.

ALL Centers.

This doesn’t make sense though if selection happens through a central committee?

It is made by the Central Committee and its supposed to be blind. I think what the previous poster is saying is unfair is that if you are not selected for Level IV and you are at a Center school, you have no chance of being pupil placed by the Principal. While if you go to a school with a Local Level IV, you could have 2 chances of getting in. The first way is being accepted in the AAP program via the Central Committee. The 2nd way is by being pupil placed into the Level IV class by the principal. Usually in a local program, there are not enough kids to fill out a class. So, to make the class numbers similar, the principal can pick students that they feel can handle the rigors of Level IV without the official designation. The downside of this is that it is a year to year determination. Unlike a student who is in the Level IV program, a student pupil placed could be kicked out of the class for poor performance, space issues, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone’s child gotten in with a nnat score of 106?

That’s literally the definition of average. It would be a travesty if someone got in with that and basically proof that admissions is a total sham

If the Cogat and/or WISC were 106, then it would be very hard to believe that the child should be in AAP. But the NNAT is such a strange test, it has very little value at all. It certainly wouldn't be a travesty for a child with a 106 NNAT and other higher scores to be admitted.

I probably shouldn’t admit this, but my child got in with a 108 nnat. DC was principal placed. I would never disclose that to parents at the school.

"Principal placed" is not "getting in"

Well, he's in level IV. I don't know what to tell you, it's on his report card. Also, he is eligible to attend the AAP center school.

Principal placed means that they are in the Local Level IV program because the Principal placed them there. Level IV will be checked on the report card. Only kids selected by the Committee can attend Centers, not Principal Paced kids.

My DD didn't get in - her test scores were so so, her second grade teacher couldn't stand her and her GBRS was horrendous. But she was principal-placed. In fifth grade I applied again because I wanted her to have a chance to go to a center middle school where most of her friends were likely to go. I submitted two years of report cards with all 4s, her SOL scores and nothing else. She got in.

Aren’t reports cards and SOLs submitted anyway?

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone’s child gotten in with a nnat score of 106?

That’s literally the definition of average. It would be a travesty if someone got in with that and basically proof that admissions is a total sham

If the Cogat and/or WISC were 106, then it would be very hard to believe that the child should be in AAP. But the NNAT is such a strange test, it has very little value at all. It certainly wouldn't be a travesty for a child with a 106 NNAT and other higher scores to be admitted.

I probably shouldn’t admit this, but my child got in with a 108 nnat. DC was principal placed. I would never disclose that to parents at the school.

"Principal placed" is not "getting in"

Well, he's in level IV. I don't know what to tell you, it's on his report card. Also, he is eligible to attend the AAP center school.

Principal placed means that they are in the Local Level IV program because the Principal placed them there. Level IV will be checked on the report card. Only kids selected by the Committee can attend Centers, not Principal Paced kids.

My DD didn't get in - her test scores were so so, her second grade teacher couldn't stand her and her GBRS was horrendous. But she was principal-placed. In fifth grade I applied again because I wanted her to have a chance to go to a center middle school where most of her friends were likely to go. I submitted two years of report cards with all 4s, her SOL scores and nothing else. She got in.

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Anonymous wrote:Can a child be principal placed at a center school if their base school is a center school?

Nope. We are at a center school, and unfortunately, NO. This is why I am so regretting being at a Center school now. Kids with way lower schools were admitted at local schools. Center schools DO have space issues, thus there is a capacity limit. Locals can send the kids to other schools and also principal place. The whole system is incredibly unfair in this regard.

Is that only for your school or all centers? This is so interesting!! I had no idea.

ALL Centers.

This doesn’t make sense though if selection happens through a central committee?

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone’s child gotten in with a nnat score of 106?

Yes. 135 Cogat and good GBRS. DD matured tremendously between first and second grade.

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Anonymous wrote:Can a child be principal placed at a center school if their base school is a center school?

Nope. We are at a center school, and unfortunately, NO. This is why I am so regretting being at a Center school now. Kids with way lower schools were admitted at local schools. Center schools DO have space issues, thus there is a capacity limit. Locals can send the kids to other schools and also principal place. The whole system is incredibly unfair in this regard.

Is that only for your school or all centers? This is so interesting!! I had no idea.

ALL Centers.

NNAT: 137
DRA 38
Four consistently (pleasantly surprised, I thought there would be one frequent)

Work samples the school selected:
Writing assignment given by the second grade teacher last fall/winter
Math problems asking child to explain how they arrived at the conclusion-> this was surprising. The file I got called these math questions Continental Math League problems. I didn’t know what these were, but there's a website with some info. The one Math quiz I happened to see on her Google Classroom page was easier (things like 11+21 type level), so I didn't realize that the school had the kids do these tougher math problems to evaluate the kids. Not sure when this was given or which teacher administered it, whether this was done during the classes with the AART or during regular math class or what.

I guess if any parent is looking to appeal, maybe they could take a question from the Continental Math League math book and have the child solve it? The website seems to have math books for sale. Or just find a sample question online and create a similar one.

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Anonymous wrote:Can I write a new parent letter as part of the appeal packet? Does it count as one of the five work samples that can be submitted?

I am wondering this too. Does anyone know?

Your school's AART will. Ask them.

Anonymous wrote:Can I write a new parent letter as part of the appeal packet? Does it count as one of the five work samples that can be submitted?

I am wondering this too. Does anyone know?

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Anonymous wrote:Can a child be principal placed at a center school if their base school is a center school?

Nope. We are at a center school, and unfortunately, NO. This is why I am so regretting being at a Center school now. Kids with way lower schools were admitted at local schools. Center schools DO have space issues, thus there is a capacity limit. Locals can send the kids to other schools and also principal place. The whole system is incredibly unfair in this regard.

Is that only for your school or all centers? This is so interesting!! I had no idea.