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Anonymous wrote:Poc impose so many direct economic costs on society that are in massively greater proportion to their % of the population. Have we netted out all the extra $$ we pay for police, prisons, welfare, low income housing, theft, arson, looting, robbery, bussing, private schools, private security, EEOC, etc? There is no way the blacks have been a net economic positive to the country over 400 years.

This is one of the most racist comments I have seen in a while, I hope you are able to correct your thinking and attitudes.

That said, reparations will shine a light on the division, trauma and destruction wrought on People of Color in this country over the past 400 years.

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Anonymous wrote:Poc impose so many direct economic costs on society that are in massively greater proportion to their % of the population. Have we netted out all the extra $$ we pay for police, prisons, welfare, low income housing, theft, arson, looting, robbery, bussing, private schools, private security, EEOC, etc? There is no way the blacks have been a net economic positive to the country over 400 years.

This is one of the most racist comments I have seen in a while, I hope you are able to correct your thinking and attitudes.

That said, reparations will shine a light on the division, trauma and destruction wrought on People of Color in this country over the past 400 years.

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Regardless of the merits, reparations is political suicide for African Americans. Few will support a program that benefits only 12% of Americans. And even if such a program passed, African Americans will be resented thereafter by a large segment of the population. For better, we are now a country of people from all over the world, most of whom had nothing to do with the evils of slavery. By pursuing reparations, African Americans separate themselves from other immigrants, whether legal or not, and from other segments of our working class and those disadvantaged. I do not see how that benefits African Americans on a range of other issues. The preferred approach is to adopt programs that benefit all segments of the working class, which presumably will disproportionally African Americans.

If we do reparations, we'll have less money and less political support for programs that actually matter for dismantling systemic racism. Like better public schools in poor areas, universal healthcare, subsidized college education.

I just don’t understand why all these folks are getting negative about reparations? The time has come for reparations, and we are finally in a position where we will elect a president who will follow through on this previously broken promise. Why pump the brakes when we have the momentum? We are on the correct side of history, so let’s act like we are

You do not have momentum, except for hard core activists. This lifelong Democrat does not support reparations.

Hard core activists just got Mississippi to change its flag. Hard core activists got hundreds of thousands of people of all colors to come out of their homes in the middle of a pandemic to protest against racist police. Hard core activists have gotten Juneteenth celebrated in places beyond Texas. Hard core activists
are getting major cities to disband their police departments, and to divert funds to more worthy causes. Hard core activists have racists on the run.

Yet all we ask for are reparations, and y’all get cold feet on us? You expect us to go vote for Biden, but you throw cold water on our simple request to make things right. After all of the progress we made in the past month, you want to pull the okie-doke on us yet again? This won’t be forgotten.

Who is this y'all that you’re talking to? Obviously not someone like me who supports reparations and also realizes that Trump has got to go. Why would you cast your vote as some sort of transaction/favor towards others and not just decide for yourself weather Biden or Trump is the best choice?

Why should white Democrats expect our continued support when they are clearly losing the will to help the movement in a meaningful way (reparations)?

Did they ever want to advance the cause, or is it all for show?

DP. Reparations aren’t meaningful. People keep pointing this out, that reparations do nothing to address systemic causes of racism for this and future generations, in fact they’d reduce funding and political support for reforms that actually are “meaningful.” You seem to have no answer, so you keep describing them in terms like “meaningful.”

You clearly haven’t paid attention to any of the reparations suggested. They could fund reforms.

Everything I saw was things to be pay for. I didn't see anything about how to fund it other than the usual "taxes" and "debt." But outside war and pandemics, we've never spent trillions without a lot of debate.

Let’s have the debate. Start with a commission to study it and go from there.

NP. Setting aside the legality and commissions, you might want to start with polling to see whether this is really wanted by a majority of AA. It sounds like it is not from the looking thus far.

I personally don’t. Here’s some money - problem solved, debt paid. More dependency on handouts.

What if it wasn’t structured as “handouts” but tried to close gaps on education and homeownership?

DP. I’d totally support this. If you want to call it “reparations” go ahead.

So, you are for school choice then? Because, Biden is opposed to it. He used to be for it. Go figure.

I’m for getting the resourc3s and f7nds our schools need, as well as cash reparations

Resources and funds

There isn't unlimited money. We need to prioritize to the things that really make a differences. Like schools and health.

If we have the funds to bail out the Wall Street banksters, and then enough money to give everyone $1,200, then we have enough to make proper reparations a reality.

If all you want is $1,200 so that you can feel better about the past, but you can't even complain about systemic racism again, you might get.yourself a deal. But I don't think the outcome would satisfy anyone.

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Regardless of the merits, reparations is political suicide for African Americans. Few will support a program that benefits only 12% of Americans. And even if such a program passed, African Americans will be resented thereafter by a large segment of the population. For better, we are now a country of people from all over the world, most of whom had nothing to do with the evils of slavery. By pursuing reparations, African Americans separate themselves from other immigrants, whether legal or not, and from other segments of our working class and those disadvantaged. I do not see how that benefits African Americans on a range of other issues. The preferred approach is to adopt programs that benefit all segments of the working class, which presumably will disproportionally African Americans.

If we do reparations, we'll have less money and less political support for programs that actually matter for dismantling systemic racism. Like better public schools in poor areas, universal healthcare, subsidized college education.

I just don’t understand why all these folks are getting negative about reparations? The time has come for reparations, and we are finally in a position where we will elect a president who will follow through on this previously broken promise. Why pump the brakes when we have the momentum? We are on the correct side of history, so let’s act like we are

You do not have momentum, except for hard core activists. This lifelong Democrat does not support reparations.

Hard core activists just got Mississippi to change its flag. Hard core activists got hundreds of thousands of people of all colors to come out of their homes in the middle of a pandemic to protest against racist police. Hard core activists have gotten Juneteenth celebrated in places beyond Texas. Hard core activists
are getting major cities to disband their police departments, and to divert funds to more worthy causes. Hard core activists have racists on the run.

Yet all we ask for are reparations, and y’all get cold feet on us? You expect us to go vote for Biden, but you throw cold water on our simple request to make things right. After all of the progress we made in the past month, you want to pull the okie-doke on us yet again? This won’t be forgotten.

Who is this y'all that you’re talking to? Obviously not someone like me who supports reparations and also realizes that Trump has got to go. Why would you cast your vote as some sort of transaction/favor towards others and not just decide for yourself weather Biden or Trump is the best choice?

Why should white Democrats expect our continued support when they are clearly losing the will to help the movement in a meaningful way (reparations)?

Did they ever want to advance the cause, or is it all for show?

DP. Reparations aren’t meaningful. People keep pointing this out, that reparations do nothing to address systemic causes of racism for this and future generations, in fact they’d reduce funding and political support for reforms that actually are “meaningful.” You seem to have no answer, so you keep describing them in terms like “meaningful.”

You clearly haven’t paid attention to any of the reparations suggested. They could fund reforms.

Everything I saw was things to be pay for. I didn't see anything about how to fund it other than the usual "taxes" and "debt." But outside war and pandemics, we've never spent trillions without a lot of debate.

Let’s have the debate. Start with a commission to study it and go from there.

NP. Setting aside the legality and commissions, you might want to start with polling to see whether this is really wanted by a majority of AA. It sounds like it is not from the looking thus far.

I personally don’t. Here’s some money - problem solved, debt paid. More dependency on handouts.

What if it wasn’t structured as “handouts” but tried to close gaps on education and homeownership?

DP. I’d totally support this. If you want to call it “reparations” go ahead.

So, you are for school choice then? Because, Biden is opposed to it. He used to be for it. Go figure.

I’m for getting the resourc3s and f7nds our schools need, as well as cash reparations

Resources and funds

There isn't unlimited money. We need to prioritize to the things that really make a differences. Like schools and health.

If we have the funds to bail out the Wall Street banksters, and then enough money to give everyone $1,200, then we have enough to make proper reparations a reality.

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Regardless of the merits, reparations is political suicide for African Americans. Few will support a program that benefits only 12% of Americans. And even if such a program passed, African Americans will be resented thereafter by a large segment of the population. For better, we are now a country of people from all over the world, most of whom had nothing to do with the evils of slavery. By pursuing reparations, African Americans separate themselves from other immigrants, whether legal or not, and from other segments of our working class and those disadvantaged. I do not see how that benefits African Americans on a range of other issues. The preferred approach is to adopt programs that benefit all segments of the working class, which presumably will disproportionally African Americans.

If we do reparations, we'll have less money and less political support for programs that actually matter for dismantling systemic racism. Like better public schools in poor areas, universal healthcare, subsidized college education.

I just don’t understand why all these folks are getting negative about reparations? The time has come for reparations, and we are finally in a position where we will elect a president who will follow through on this previously broken promise. Why pump the brakes when we have the momentum? We are on the correct side of history, so let’s act like we are

You do not have momentum, except for hard core activists. This lifelong Democrat does not support reparations.

Hard core activists just got Mississippi to change its flag. Hard core activists got hundreds of thousands of people of all colors to come out of their homes in the middle of a pandemic to protest against racist police. Hard core activists have gotten Juneteenth celebrated in places beyond Texas. Hard core activists
are getting major cities to disband their police departments, and to divert funds to more worthy causes. Hard core activists have racists on the run.

Yet all we ask for are reparations, and y’all get cold feet on us? You expect us to go vote for Biden, but you throw cold water on our simple request to make things right. After all of the progress we made in the past month, you want to pull the okie-doke on us yet again? This won’t be forgotten.

Who is this y'all that you’re talking to? Obviously not someone like me who supports reparations and also realizes that Trump has got to go. Why would you cast your vote as some sort of transaction/favor towards others and not just decide for yourself weather Biden or Trump is the best choice?

Why should white Democrats expect our continued support when they are clearly losing the will to help the movement in a meaningful way (reparations)?

Did they ever want to advance the cause, or is it all for show?

DP. Reparations aren’t meaningful. People keep pointing this out, that reparations do nothing to address systemic causes of racism for this and future generations, in fact they’d reduce funding and political support for reforms that actually are “meaningful.” You seem to have no answer, so you keep describing them in terms like “meaningful.”

You clearly haven’t paid attention to any of the reparations suggested. They could fund reforms.

Everything I saw was things to be pay for. I didn't see anything about how to fund it other than the usual "taxes" and "debt." But outside war and pandemics, we've never spent trillions without a lot of debate.

Let’s have the debate. Start with a commission to study it and go from there.

NP. Setting aside the legality and commissions, you might want to start with polling to see whether this is really wanted by a majority of AA. It sounds like it is not from the looking thus far.

I personally don’t. Here’s some money - problem solved, debt paid. More dependency on handouts.

What if it wasn’t structured as “handouts” but tried to close gaps on education and homeownership?

DP. I’d totally support this. If you want to call it “reparations” go ahead.

So, you are for school choice then? Because, Biden is opposed to it. He used to be for it. Go figure.

I’m for getting the resourc3s and f7nds our schools need, as well as cash reparations

Resources and funds

There isn't unlimited money. We need to prioritize to the things that really make a differences. Like schools and health.

If we have the funds to bail out the Wall Street banksters, and then enough money to give everyone $1,200, then we have enough to make proper reparations a reality.

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Regardless of the merits, reparations is political suicide for African Americans. Few will support a program that benefits only 12% of Americans. And even if such a program passed, African Americans will be resented thereafter by a large segment of the population. For better, we are now a country of people from all over the world, most of whom had nothing to do with the evils of slavery. By pursuing reparations, African Americans separate themselves from other immigrants, whether legal or not, and from other segments of our working class and those disadvantaged. I do not see how that benefits African Americans on a range of other issues. The preferred approach is to adopt programs that benefit all segments of the working class, which presumably will disproportionally African Americans.

If we do reparations, we'll have less money and less political support for programs that actually matter for dismantling systemic racism. Like better public schools in poor areas, universal healthcare, subsidized college education.

I just don’t understand why all these folks are getting negative about reparations? The time has come for reparations, and we are finally in a position where we will elect a president who will follow through on this previously broken promise. Why pump the brakes when we have the momentum? We are on the correct side of history, so let’s act like we are

You do not have momentum, except for hard core activists. This lifelong Democrat does not support reparations.

Hard core activists just got Mississippi to change its flag. Hard core activists got hundreds of thousands of people of all colors to come out of their homes in the middle of a pandemic to protest against racist police. Hard core activists have gotten Juneteenth celebrated in places beyond Texas. Hard core activists
are getting major cities to disband their police departments, and to divert funds to more worthy causes. Hard core activists have racists on the run.

Yet all we ask for are reparations, and y’all get cold feet on us? You expect us to go vote for Biden, but you throw cold water on our simple request to make things right. After all of the progress we made in the past month, you want to pull the okie-doke on us yet again? This won’t be forgotten.

Who is this y'all that you’re talking to? Obviously not someone like me who supports reparations and also realizes that Trump has got to go. Why would you cast your vote as some sort of transaction/favor towards others and not just decide for yourself weather Biden or Trump is the best choice?

Why should white Democrats expect our continued support when they are clearly losing the will to help the movement in a meaningful way (reparations)?

Did they ever want to advance the cause, or is it all for show?

DP. Reparations aren’t meaningful. People keep pointing this out, that reparations do nothing to address systemic causes of racism for this and future generations, in fact they’d reduce funding and political support for reforms that actually are “meaningful.” You seem to have no answer, so you keep describing them in terms like “meaningful.”

You clearly haven’t paid attention to any of the reparations suggested. They could fund reforms.

Everything I saw was things to be pay for. I didn't see anything about how to fund it other than the usual "taxes" and "debt." But outside war and pandemics, we've never spent trillions without a lot of debate.

Let’s have the debate. Start with a commission to study it and go from there.

NP. Setting aside the legality and commissions, you might want to start with polling to see whether this is really wanted by a majority of AA. It sounds like it is not from the looking thus far.

I personally don’t. Here’s some money - problem solved, debt paid. More dependency on handouts.

What if it wasn’t structured as “handouts” but tried to close gaps on education and homeownership?

DP. I’d totally support this. If you want to call it “reparations” go ahead.

So, you are for school choice then? Because, Biden is opposed to it. He used to be for it. Go figure.

I’m for getting the resourc3s and f7nds our schools need, as well as cash reparations

Resources and funds

There isn't unlimited money. We need to prioritize to the things that really make a differences. Like schools and health.

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Regardless of the merits, reparations is political suicide for African Americans. Few will support a program that benefits only 12% of Americans. And even if such a program passed, African Americans will be resented thereafter by a large segment of the population. For better, we are now a country of people from all over the world, most of whom had nothing to do with the evils of slavery. By pursuing reparations, African Americans separate themselves from other immigrants, whether legal or not, and from other segments of our working class and those disadvantaged. I do not see how that benefits African Americans on a range of other issues. The preferred approach is to adopt programs that benefit all segments of the working class, which presumably will disproportionally African Americans.

If we do reparations, we'll have less money and less political support for programs that actually matter for dismantling systemic racism. Like better public schools in poor areas, universal healthcare, subsidized college education.

I just don’t understand why all these folks are getting negative about reparations? The time has come for reparations, and we are finally in a position where we will elect a president who will follow through on this previously broken promise. Why pump the brakes when we have the momentum? We are on the correct side of history, so let’s act like we are

You do not have momentum, except for hard core activists. This lifelong Democrat does not support reparations.

Hard core activists just got Mississippi to change its flag. Hard core activists got hundreds of thousands of people of all colors to come out of their homes in the middle of a pandemic to protest against racist police. Hard core activists have gotten Juneteenth celebrated in places beyond Texas. Hard core activists
are getting major cities to disband their police departments, and to divert funds to more worthy causes. Hard core activists have racists on the run.

Yet all we ask for are reparations, and y’all get cold feet on us? You expect us to go vote for Biden, but you throw cold water on our simple request to make things right. After all of the progress we made in the past month, you want to pull the okie-doke on us yet again? This won’t be forgotten.

Who is this y'all that you’re talking to? Obviously not someone like me who supports reparations and also realizes that Trump has got to go. Why would you cast your vote as some sort of transaction/favor towards others and not just decide for yourself weather Biden or Trump is the best choice?

Why should white Democrats expect our continued support when they are clearly losing the will to help the movement in a meaningful way (reparations)?

Did they ever want to advance the cause, or is it all for show?

DP. Reparations aren’t meaningful. People keep pointing this out, that reparations do nothing to address systemic causes of racism for this and future generations, in fact they’d reduce funding and political support for reforms that actually are “meaningful.” You seem to have no answer, so you keep describing them in terms like “meaningful.”

You clearly haven’t paid attention to any of the reparations suggested. They could fund reforms.

Everything I saw was things to be pay for. I didn't see anything about how to fund it other than the usual "taxes" and "debt." But outside war and pandemics, we've never spent trillions without a lot of debate.

Let’s have the debate. Start with a commission to study it and go from there.

NP. Setting aside the legality and commissions, you might want to start with polling to see whether this is really wanted by a majority of AA. It sounds like it is not from the looking thus far.

I personally don’t. Here’s some money - problem solved, debt paid. More dependency on handouts.

What if it wasn’t structured as “handouts” but tried to close gaps on education and homeownership?

DP. I’d totally support this. If you want to call it “reparations” go ahead.

So, you are for school choice then? Because, Biden is opposed to it. He used to be for it. Go figure.

I’m for getting the resourc3s and f7nds our schools need, as well as cash reparations

Resources and funds

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Regardless of the merits, reparations is political suicide for African Americans. Few will support a program that benefits only 12% of Americans. And even if such a program passed, African Americans will be resented thereafter by a large segment of the population. For better, we are now a country of people from all over the world, most of whom had nothing to do with the evils of slavery. By pursuing reparations, African Americans separate themselves from other immigrants, whether legal or not, and from other segments of our working class and those disadvantaged. I do not see how that benefits African Americans on a range of other issues. The preferred approach is to adopt programs that benefit all segments of the working class, which presumably will disproportionally African Americans.

If we do reparations, we'll have less money and less political support for programs that actually matter for dismantling systemic racism. Like better public schools in poor areas, universal healthcare, subsidized college education.

I just don’t understand why all these folks are getting negative about reparations? The time has come for reparations, and we are finally in a position where we will elect a president who will follow through on this previously broken promise. Why pump the brakes when we have the momentum? We are on the correct side of history, so let’s act like we are

You do not have momentum, except for hard core activists. This lifelong Democrat does not support reparations.

Hard core activists just got Mississippi to change its flag. Hard core activists got hundreds of thousands of people of all colors to come out of their homes in the middle of a pandemic to protest against racist police. Hard core activists have gotten Juneteenth celebrated in places beyond Texas. Hard core activists
are getting major cities to disband their police departments, and to divert funds to more worthy causes. Hard core activists have racists on the run.

Yet all we ask for are reparations, and y’all get cold feet on us? You expect us to go vote for Biden, but you throw cold water on our simple request to make things right. After all of the progress we made in the past month, you want to pull the okie-doke on us yet again? This won’t be forgotten.

Who is this y'all that you’re talking to? Obviously not someone like me who supports reparations and also realizes that Trump has got to go. Why would you cast your vote as some sort of transaction/favor towards others and not just decide for yourself weather Biden or Trump is the best choice?

Why should white Democrats expect our continued support when they are clearly losing the will to help the movement in a meaningful way (reparations)?

Did they ever want to advance the cause, or is it all for show?

DP. Reparations aren’t meaningful. People keep pointing this out, that reparations do nothing to address systemic causes of racism for this and future generations, in fact they’d reduce funding and political support for reforms that actually are “meaningful.” You seem to have no answer, so you keep describing them in terms like “meaningful.”

You clearly haven’t paid attention to any of the reparations suggested. They could fund reforms.

Everything I saw was things to be pay for. I didn't see anything about how to fund it other than the usual "taxes" and "debt." But outside war and pandemics, we've never spent trillions without a lot of debate.

Let’s have the debate. Start with a commission to study it and go from there.

NP. Setting aside the legality and commissions, you might want to start with polling to see whether this is really wanted by a majority of AA. It sounds like it is not from the looking thus far.

I personally don’t. Here’s some money - problem solved, debt paid. More dependency on handouts.

What if it wasn’t structured as “handouts” but tried to close gaps on education and homeownership?

DP. I’d totally support this. If you want to call it “reparations” go ahead.

So, you are for school choice then? Because, Biden is opposed to it. He used to be for it. Go figure.

I’m for getting the resourc3s and f7nds our schools need, as well as cash reparations

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Regardless of the merits, reparations is political suicide for African Americans. Few will support a program that benefits only 12% of Americans. And even if such a program passed, African Americans will be resented thereafter by a large segment of the population. For better, we are now a country of people from all over the world, most of whom had nothing to do with the evils of slavery. By pursuing reparations, African Americans separate themselves from other immigrants, whether legal or not, and from other segments of our working class and those disadvantaged. I do not see how that benefits African Americans on a range of other issues. The preferred approach is to adopt programs that benefit all segments of the working class, which presumably will disproportionally African Americans.

If we do reparations, we'll have less money and less political support for programs that actually matter for dismantling systemic racism. Like better public schools in poor areas, universal healthcare, subsidized college education.

I just don’t understand why all these folks are getting negative about reparations? The time has come for reparations, and we are finally in a position where we will elect a president who will follow through on this previously broken promise. Why pump the brakes when we have the momentum? We are on the correct side of history, so let’s act like we are

You do not have momentum, except for hard core activists. This lifelong Democrat does not support reparations.

Hard core activists just got Mississippi to change its flag. Hard core activists got hundreds of thousands of people of all colors to come out of their homes in the middle of a pandemic to protest against racist police. Hard core activists have gotten Juneteenth celebrated in places beyond Texas. Hard core activists
are getting major cities to disband their police departments, and to divert funds to more worthy causes. Hard core activists have racists on the run.

Yet all we ask for are reparations, and y’all get cold feet on us? You expect us to go vote for Biden, but you throw cold water on our simple request to make things right. After all of the progress we made in the past month, you want to pull the okie-doke on us yet again? This won’t be forgotten.

Who is this y'all that you’re talking to? Obviously not someone like me who supports reparations and also realizes that Trump has got to go. Why would you cast your vote as some sort of transaction/favor towards others and not just decide for yourself weather Biden or Trump is the best choice?

Why should white Democrats expect our continued support when they are clearly losing the will to help the movement in a meaningful way (reparations)?

Did they ever want to advance the cause, or is it all for show?

DP. Reparations aren’t meaningful. People keep pointing this out, that reparations do nothing to address systemic causes of racism for this and future generations, in fact they’d reduce funding and political support for reforms that actually are “meaningful.” You seem to have no answer, so you keep describing them in terms like “meaningful.”

You clearly haven’t paid attention to any of the reparations suggested. They could fund reforms.

Everything I saw was things to be pay for. I didn't see anything about how to fund it other than the usual "taxes" and "debt." But outside war and pandemics, we've never spent trillions without a lot of debate.

Let’s have the debate. Start with a commission to study it and go from there.

NP. Setting aside the legality and commissions, you might want to start with polling to see whether this is really wanted by a majority of AA. It sounds like it is not from the looking thus far.

I personally don’t. Here’s some money - problem solved, debt paid. More dependency on handouts.

What if it wasn’t structured as “handouts” but tried to close gaps on education and homeownership?

DP. I’d totally support this. If you want to call it “reparations” go ahead.

So, you are for school choice then? Because, Biden is opposed to it. He used to be for it. Go figure.

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Regardless of the merits, reparations is political suicide for African Americans. Few will support a program that benefits only 12% of Americans. And even if such a program passed, African Americans will be resented thereafter by a large segment of the population. For better, we are now a country of people from all over the world, most of whom had nothing to do with the evils of slavery. By pursuing reparations, African Americans separate themselves from other immigrants, whether legal or not, and from other segments of our working class and those disadvantaged. I do not see how that benefits African Americans on a range of other issues. The preferred approach is to adopt programs that benefit all segments of the working class, which presumably will disproportionally African Americans.

If we do reparations, we'll have less money and less political support for programs that actually matter for dismantling systemic racism. Like better public schools in poor areas, universal healthcare, subsidized college education.

I just don’t understand why all these folks are getting negative about reparations? The time has come for reparations, and we are finally in a position where we will elect a president who will follow through on this previously broken promise. Why pump the brakes when we have the momentum? We are on the correct side of history, so let’s act like we are

You do not have momentum, except for hard core activists. This lifelong Democrat does not support reparations.

Hard core activists just got Mississippi to change its flag. Hard core activists got hundreds of thousands of people of all colors to come out of their homes in the middle of a pandemic to protest against racist police. Hard core activists have gotten Juneteenth celebrated in places beyond Texas. Hard core activists
are getting major cities to disband their police departments, and to divert funds to more worthy causes. Hard core activists have racists on the run.

Yet all we ask for are reparations, and y’all get cold feet on us? You expect us to go vote for Biden, but you throw cold water on our simple request to make things right. After all of the progress we made in the past month, you want to pull the okie-doke on us yet again? This won’t be forgotten.

Who is this y'all that you’re talking to? Obviously not someone like me who supports reparations and also realizes that Trump has got to go. Why would you cast your vote as some sort of transaction/favor towards others and not just decide for yourself weather Biden or Trump is the best choice?

Why should white Democrats expect our continued support when they are clearly losing the will to help the movement in a meaningful way (reparations)?

Did they ever want to advance the cause, or is it all for show?

DP. Reparations aren’t meaningful. People keep pointing this out, that reparations do nothing to address systemic causes of racism for this and future generations, in fact they’d reduce funding and political support for reforms that actually are “meaningful.” You seem to have no answer, so you keep describing them in terms like “meaningful.”

You clearly haven’t paid attention to any of the reparations suggested. They could fund reforms.

Everything I saw was things to be pay for. I didn't see anything about how to fund it other than the usual "taxes" and "debt." But outside war and pandemics, we've never spent trillions without a lot of debate.

Let’s have the debate. Start with a commission to study it and go from there.

NP. Setting aside the legality and commissions, you might want to start with polling to see whether this is really wanted by a majority of AA. It sounds like it is not from the looking thus far.

I personally don’t. Here’s some money - problem solved, debt paid. More dependency on handouts.

What if it wasn’t structured as “handouts” but tried to close gaps on education and homeownership?

DP. I’d totally support this. If you want to call it “reparations” go ahead.

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Regardless of the merits, reparations is political suicide for African Americans. Few will support a program that benefits only 12% of Americans. And even if such a program passed, African Americans will be resented thereafter by a large segment of the population. For better, we are now a country of people from all over the world, most of whom had nothing to do with the evils of slavery. By pursuing reparations, African Americans separate themselves from other immigrants, whether legal or not, and from other segments of our working class and those disadvantaged. I do not see how that benefits African Americans on a range of other issues. The preferred approach is to adopt programs that benefit all segments of the working class, which presumably will disproportionally African Americans.

If we do reparations, we'll have less money and less political support for programs that actually matter for dismantling systemic racism. Like better public schools in poor areas, universal healthcare, subsidized college education.

I just don’t understand why all these folks are getting negative about reparations? The time has come for reparations, and we are finally in a position where we will elect a president who will follow through on this previously broken promise. Why pump the brakes when we have the momentum? We are on the correct side of history, so let’s act like we are

You do not have momentum, except for hard core activists. This lifelong Democrat does not support reparations.

Hard core activists just got Mississippi to change its flag. Hard core activists got hundreds of thousands of people of all colors to come out of their homes in the middle of a pandemic to protest against racist police. Hard core activists have gotten Juneteenth celebrated in places beyond Texas. Hard core activists
are getting major cities to disband their police departments, and to divert funds to more worthy causes. Hard core activists have racists on the run.

Yet all we ask for are reparations, and y’all get cold feet on us? You expect us to go vote for Biden, but you throw cold water on our simple request to make things right. After all of the progress we made in the past month, you want to pull the okie-doke on us yet again? This won’t be forgotten.

Who is this y'all that you’re talking to? Obviously not someone like me who supports reparations and also realizes that Trump has got to go. Why would you cast your vote as some sort of transaction/favor towards others and not just decide for yourself weather Biden or Trump is the best choice?

Why should white Democrats expect our continued support when they are clearly losing the will to help the movement in a meaningful way (reparations)?

Did they ever want to advance the cause, or is it all for show?

DP. Reparations aren’t meaningful. People keep pointing this out, that reparations do nothing to address systemic causes of racism for this and future generations, in fact they’d reduce funding and political support for reforms that actually are “meaningful.” You seem to have no answer, so you keep describing them in terms like “meaningful.”

You clearly haven’t paid attention to any of the reparations suggested. They could fund reforms.

Everything I saw was things to be pay for. I didn't see anything about how to fund it other than the usual "taxes" and "debt." But outside war and pandemics, we've never spent trillions without a lot of debate.

Let’s have the debate. Start with a commission to study it and go from there.

NP. Setting aside the legality and commissions, you might want to start with polling to see whether this is really wanted by a majority of AA. It sounds like it is not from the looking thus far.

I personally don’t. Here’s some money - problem solved, debt paid. More dependency on handouts.

What if it wasn’t structured as “handouts” but tried to close gaps on education and homeownership?

The most vocal advocates of reparations want trillions in cash-transfers over 10-20 years. The debate is over how many trillions over how many years. Check it out. And check out the majority AA community’s thoughts on it. It’s not popular. Check out the comments on The Black Wisdom Thread in this Political Discussion forum. Enlightening.

Yes, I have been checking it out.

The biggest economic inequalities are based on inequalities in education, homeownership, and wealth.