Anonymous
Post 12/27/2022 14:27     Subject: Subtle signs of class

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh totally!
Things that say class to me are as you say a lot of books, items from different cultures, furniture that is thoughtfully curated (doesn’t have to be expensive). Instruments for sure. Art, even if self made. Things that are unique.

Signs of the opposite to me are those puffy leather sofas, signs that say stuff like live laugh love, a lot of Raymour and Flanagan looking stuff, bad lighting, linoleum and anything ‘fake fancy’. Also fake tree at holiday time screams no class


Guess my mold allergies have doomed me to a low class life. My trees are pretty to look at, though.


PP and having an available physician who can diagnose, treat and prescribe meds for an ongoing or seasonal malady is a class thing - LMC and above. The fact that you have insurance and easy access to low cost med refills is a benefit available to LMC/working class and above.

There’s certainly a correlation between diagnoses/meds and higher income demographics.

So you could check medicine cabinets! Who has EpiPens/inhalers/CGM/an array of rx meds for ADHD/depression/anxiety and who has just otc meds only and maybe a few bottles of expired rx meds from a long ago ER visit.


Why would someone need all those meds if they have money to spend on nutrition and wellness?


Because they can afford to see the doctor for any little thing that comes up. And their doctors are more willing to prescribe for off label use and to do things like give diet pills, or in previous generations, Valium and Xanex. Unlike poor people who only get care when they’re so sick they have to go to the ER. I’m really discouraged by how many people here don’t understand this.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2022 12:32     Subject: Re:Subtle signs of class

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:-They stop at two drinks, and only order small bottles for a table.

-They are actually rather frugal and low-key.

-They do a lot of volunteer work and philanthropy.



What is a "small bottle?"


Not a magnum of champagne


Oh. So just like a regular bottle.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2022 12:27     Subject: Re:Subtle signs of class

Anonymous wrote:-They stop at two drinks, and only order small bottles for a table.

-They are actually rather frugal and low-key.

-They do a lot of volunteer work and philanthropy.



This is true except for the part about stopping at two drinks.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2022 12:21     Subject: Subtle signs of class

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh totally!
Things that say class to me are as you say a lot of books, items from different cultures, furniture that is thoughtfully curated (doesn’t have to be expensive). Instruments for sure. Art, even if self made. Things that are unique.

Signs of the opposite to me are those puffy leather sofas, signs that say stuff like live laugh love, a lot of Raymour and Flanagan looking stuff, bad lighting, linoleum and anything ‘fake fancy’. Also fake tree at holiday time screams no class


Guess my mold allergies have doomed me to a low class life. My trees are pretty to look at, though.


PP and having an available physician who can diagnose, treat and prescribe meds for an ongoing or seasonal malady is a class thing - LMC and above. The fact that you have insurance and easy access to low cost med refills is a benefit available to LMC/working class and above.

There’s certainly a correlation between diagnoses/meds and higher income demographics.

So you could check medicine cabinets! Who has EpiPens/inhalers/CGM/an array of rx meds for ADHD/depression/anxiety and who has just otc meds only and maybe a few bottles of expired rx meds from a long ago ER visit.


Why would someone need all those meds if they have money to spend on nutrition and wellness?


PP quoted and the higher the income, the more diagnoses and specialized meds and treatments and health care plans. I’m a retired school nurse.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2022 12:21     Subject: Subtle signs of class

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I had no idea books were a sign of class in a home.

Signed a middle class person (I guess that makes sense?)

I mean I had books in my house, but they weren’t on display. Probably bc they weren’t of any value.


Books are not a sign of class unless you are over a certain age. Most people have their books on kindle, and donated their books to a better cause, by now.


You're right, us oldsters understand that when you rely on electronic books that they can be removed or changed without your consent. We also know that research shows that reading a physical book leads to greater comprehension and retention.


Physical books are still much more popular in most of Europe, or at least Western Europe. Watch any home decorating or buidling shows from Scandinavia, Germany, UK, etc., and you will see many homes with floor to ceiling bookcases. Much more rare in the US.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2022 12:19     Subject: Re:Subtle signs of class

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:-They stop at two drinks, and only order small bottles for a table.

-They are actually rather frugal and low-key.

-They do a lot of volunteer work and philanthropy.



What is a "small bottle?"


Not a magnum of champagne
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2022 12:17     Subject: Subtle signs of class

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh totally!
Things that say class to me are as you say a lot of books, items from different cultures, furniture that is thoughtfully curated (doesn’t have to be expensive). Instruments for sure. Art, even if self made. Things that are unique.

Signs of the opposite to me are those puffy leather sofas, signs that say stuff like live laugh love, a lot of Raymour and Flanagan looking stuff, bad lighting, linoleum and anything ‘fake fancy’. Also fake tree at holiday time screams no class


Guess my mold allergies have doomed me to a low class life. My trees are pretty to look at, though.


PP and having an available physician who can diagnose, treat and prescribe meds for an ongoing or seasonal malady is a class thing - LMC and above. The fact that you have insurance and easy access to low cost med refills is a benefit available to LMC/working class and above.

There’s certainly a correlation between diagnoses/meds and higher income demographics.

So you could check medicine cabinets! Who has EpiPens/inhalers/CGM/an array of rx meds for ADHD/depression/anxiety and who has just otc meds only and maybe a few bottles of expired rx meds from a long ago ER visit.


Why would someone need all those meds if they have money to spend on nutrition and wellness?
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2022 12:15     Subject: Re:Subtle signs of class

Classy is not discussing class.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2022 10:46     Subject: Subtle signs of class

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Class is confidence plus courtesy.


+1



So many people here seem to think class = rich. Social class yes, but class itself isn’t about money at all. That’s why so many people get it wrong.


This comes up all the time. no one would ever accuse the Kardashians or the Trumps of having class. Class is not money alone.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2022 10:17     Subject: Re:Subtle signs of class

Anonymous wrote:-They stop at two drinks, and only order small bottles for a table.

-They are actually rather frugal and low-key.

-They do a lot of volunteer work and philanthropy.



What is a "small bottle?"
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2022 10:11     Subject: Subtle signs of class

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Class is confidence plus courtesy.


+1



So many people here seem to think class = rich. Social class yes, but class itself isn’t about money at all. That’s why so many people get it wrong.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2022 10:01     Subject: Re:Subtle signs of class

-They stop at two drinks, and only order small bottles for a table.

-They are actually rather frugal and low-key.

-They do a lot of volunteer work and philanthropy.

Anonymous
Post 12/27/2022 09:54     Subject: Subtle signs of class

Yep, I have a few very old money friends and none are on social media at all.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2022 09:46     Subject: Re:Subtle signs of class

Anonymous wrote:
Don’t over share on social media or post their children on social media


This is very true...In fact, for many, no social media at all

No canadian goose gear either
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2022 23:41     Subject: Re:Subtle signs of class

I like the good manners and cleanliness response of a PP.

I would add
Kindness
Tact / avoiding hurting others’ feelings
Valuing non monetary treasures such as musicality and artistic expression
Have original art and frame choice pieces of their children’s art
Have some furniture that goes back at least 3 generations
Value domestic staff and treat them very well
Ancestors who have highly distinctive accomplishments such as Nobel prizes or pioneering breakthroughs of some kind and some ancestors who are crazy
Encourage their children to work hard, make their own paths and use their advantages in life to do good
Consistent faith of some kind
Loyal friends and spouses (this is somewhat controversial)
Don’t over share on social media or post their children on social media