Anonymous
Post 02/04/2019 10:09     Subject: BRYC Girls TD Larry Best leaving for Washington Spirit
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^ Everyone knows ARL cares more about winning games then development.


LMAO at the Arlington comment. Same with FCV. The roster sizes are almost identical across options, and consistent with other DAs across the division and country.

This is why you were called a troll. You're simply looking to pick on Spirit, and this isn't the first example of a poster doing that here. Maybe you're all the same troll.


Arlington 04s roster 16 kids almost ever game. Those 16 play the majority of the minutes. They have identified those 16 as the ones they want to develop for now. What's wrong with that? I'm not saying they are the best. I'm saying they have identified their drop off and drew a line. Nothing wrong with trying to be competetive...and wanting to win doesnt mean being anti-development. Soccer people drive me nuts with this.

But again, you're anti-Arlington so I'm a troll.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2019 10:05     Subject: BRYC Girls TD Larry Best leaving for Washington Spirit
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^ Everyone knows ARL cares more about winning games then development.


LMAO at the Arlington comment. Same with FCV. The roster sizes are almost identical across options, and consistent with other DAs across the division and country.

This is why you were called a troll. You're simply looking to pick on Spirit, and this isn't the first example of a poster doing that here. Maybe you're all the same troll.


How do they compare to the size of New York City DA sizes?
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2019 09:55     Subject: BRYC Girls TD Larry Best leaving for Washington Spirit
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A few things..... DA rules don’t allow for bloated rosters, there are upper limits. Second, an attack on DA for being anti-development has no place in this thread. Feel free to start that topic (again, as nauseum, ad infinitum), but the discussion doesnt belong here. Finally, demeaning the talent at a club isn’t very classy. There are plenty of talented kids at Spirit who chose that environment for the coaching and atmosphere. For every talented kid who has a “better option” there is one who was bumped out of the “better option” club for another talented flavor of the day. Over and over. That doesn’t spawn development, what it spawns is nastiness and rancor. I’d prefer a healthy environment with uneven talent to that any time. To each his own


The upper limits of the DA rules allow for bloated rosters. If you have more players on your team roster than you can have on a gameday roster, the team has a bloated roster.

Not a rule, but DA guidelines for some agegroups say that every single FT player on the roster should play at least 50% of the available game minutes each month. Does WS abide by that?


Playing time stats are available on the US Soccer website. If you have evidence that WS is breaking the playing rules, please by all means contact Torres and US Soccer.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2019 09:46     Subject: BRYC Girls TD Larry Best leaving for Washington Spirit
Anonymous wrote:A few things..... DA rules don’t allow for bloated rosters, there are upper limits. Second, an attack on DA for being anti-development has no place in this thread. Feel free to start that topic (again, as nauseum, ad infinitum), but the discussion doesnt belong here. Finally, demeaning the talent at a club isn’t very classy. There are plenty of talented kids at Spirit who chose that environment for the coaching and atmosphere. For every talented kid who has a “better option” there is one who was bumped out of the “better option” club for another talented flavor of the day. Over and over. That doesn’t spawn development, what it spawns is nastiness and rancor. I’d prefer a healthy environment with uneven talent to that any time. To each his own


Counter-point: I never said the DA was anti-development. I said the sub rule was anti-development. The vast majority of people will agree. That's why DA changed the rule for younger age groups.

Counter-point: I never said WS was void of talent. I said their platform develops SOME less talented kids who would not be playing DA otherwise.

Counter-point: A rising tide does not lift all ships. When equal playing time is distributed evenly among varying levels of talent, it makes a team less competitive. Arlington is a good example. Small rosters with maximum playing time.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2019 09:34     Subject: BRYC Girls TD Larry Best leaving for Washington Spirit
Anonymous wrote:A few things..... DA rules don’t allow for bloated rosters, there are upper limits. Second, an attack on DA for being anti-development has no place in this thread. Feel free to start that topic (again, as nauseum, ad infinitum), but the discussion doesnt belong here. Finally, demeaning the talent at a club isn’t very classy. There are plenty of talented kids at Spirit who chose that environment for the coaching and atmosphere. For every talented kid who has a “better option” there is one who was bumped out of the “better option” club for another talented flavor of the day. Over and over. That doesn’t spawn development, what it spawns is nastiness and rancor. I’d prefer a healthy environment with uneven talent to that any time. To each his own


The upper limits of the DA rules allow for bloated rosters. If you have more players on your team roster than you can have on a gameday roster, the team has a bloated roster.

Not a rule, but DA guidelines for some agegroups say that every single FT player on the roster should play at least 50% of the available game minutes each month. Does WS abide by that?
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2019 09:17     Subject: BRYC Girls TD Larry Best leaving for Washington Spirit
A few things..... DA rules don’t allow for bloated rosters, there are upper limits. Second, an attack on DA for being anti-development has no place in this thread. Feel free to start that topic (again, as nauseum, ad infinitum), but the discussion doesnt belong here. Finally, demeaning the talent at a club isn’t very classy. There are plenty of talented kids at Spirit who chose that environment for the coaching and atmosphere. For every talented kid who has a “better option” there is one who was bumped out of the “better option” club for another talented flavor of the day. Over and over. That doesn’t spawn development, what it spawns is nastiness and rancor. I’d prefer a healthy environment with uneven talent to that any time. To each his own
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2019 09:05     Subject: BRYC Girls TD Larry Best leaving for Washington Spirit
Anonymous wrote:Ok, troll. Bitter much? Go stick to your other threads and let the adults get back to our conversation.


Calling someone a troll because you don't agree with their post is not being engaged in an adult conversation. Make a counter to the points being made.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2019 08:28     Subject: BRYC Girls TD Larry Best leaving for Washington Spirit
Ok, troll. Bitter much? Go stick to your other threads and let the adults get back to our conversation.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2019 08:19     Subject: BRYC Girls TD Larry Best leaving for Washington Spirit
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Rising sophomores and juniors typically dont bounce around in the prime of their recruitment years. So there will be no great talent influx next year for the 04s and above so they must find another way...all while trying to keep the talent they do have.

There is still time for the 05s (most rising 9th graders) and the younger 04s (rising 9th graders) to move around and settle in but that wont happen in great numbers.



That is generally true. What they need to do is have a smaller, well thought out rosters. It won't solve the problem, but like the U19s didn't need 20 girls on their roster. They could have left some of the 02s on the U17 team and so on down the line.


The DA sub rules are Anti-development for the masses. Yet, WS carries huge rosters that serves the masses..which in turn is anti-development.

Now, the WS model DOES develop some less talented player by providing them with a platform to play at a higher level then they would have otherwise at another club. However, that not the point of of the DA. The point is to develop the best talent under international rules. The best way to attract talent is to be competetive. The best way to lose talent is to consistently get smacked around. Never forget, the better kids will always have options.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2019 08:07     Subject: Re:BRYC Girls TD Larry Best leaving for Washington Spirit
Anonymous wrote:I think having separate U16 and U17 DA teams will help some. Is that definitely happening next year?


Yes, this was expanded after the pilot out west last year. Individual group for u16’s this year.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2019 07:20     Subject: Re:BRYC Girls TD Larry Best leaving for Washington Spirit
I think having separate U16 and U17 DA teams will help some. Is that definitely happening next year?
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2019 00:13     Subject: BRYC Girls TD Larry Best leaving for Washington Spirit
Anonymous wrote:Rising sophomores and juniors typically dont bounce around in the prime of their recruitment years. So there will be no great talent influx next year for the 04s and above so they must find another way...all while trying to keep the talent they do have.

There is still time for the 05s (most rising 9th graders) and the younger 04s (rising 9th graders) to move around and settle in but that wont happen in great numbers.



That is generally true. What they need to do is have a smaller, well thought out rosters. It won't solve the problem, but like the U19s didn't need 20 girls on their roster. They could have left some of the 02s on the U17 team and so on down the line.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2019 23:29     Subject: BRYC Girls TD Larry Best leaving for Washington Spirit
Rising sophomores and juniors typically dont bounce around in the prime of their recruitment years. So there will be no great talent influx next year for the 04s and above so they must find another way...all while trying to keep the talent they do have.

There is still time for the 05s (most rising 9th graders) and the younger 04s (rising 9th graders) to move around and settle in but that wont happen in great numbers.



Anonymous
Post 02/03/2019 22:57     Subject: BRYC Girls TD Larry Best leaving for Washington Spirit
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:More selective rosters will probably happen next year as Spirit adds more coaches and beefs up the DA as they stated they were going to do. Let’s see how the ID sessions go and who turns up before everyone just writes them off. U13 (2006) is really the only group that needs a talent influx-05 and up are doing pretty well and will be contributing to improve.


Just wow. The 05, 04 and 03 teams ALL needs major talent influx. To say otherwise is completely delusional.


Agreed. Let's also not forget that they need more 02s and 01s to properly fill a U19 team next year, or else Spirit VA will be forced to continue some of the same play up practices to cover roster holes. Once it starts at the oldest team - as it did this year - it trickles all the way down through all of the teams.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2019 22:38     Subject: BRYC Girls TD Larry Best leaving for Washington Spirit
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The McLean ECNL 05 team is doing well in ECNL but that conference is not as strong as the NE Conference. The team did pick up a few players from the DC Stoddert team which was a pretty solid team, finishing as a semi-finalist in MD State Cup.

Why would CW go anywhere? McLean's ECNL program is the best in the region. One of their coaches was just named club coach of the year.

I read a negative comment about FCV's 05 players being robots. Didn't the team win state cup and isn't the A team leading the DA MA Conference? I thought FCV had several of its DA teams that will qualify for the DA playoffs. Didn't Emily Fox play for FCV?


The fact that McLean ECNL 05 was successful this year despite losing a ton of players to Spirit and Arlington is a testament to Clyde Watson's ability to recruit players.

In order for a club to be successful in this area, they have to be aggressive about recruiting.


The success is more about his ability to coach. You can't bring in that many players and do as well as the team is doing without strong coaching.