Anonymous
02/06/2019 11:17
Subject: RM Cluster Overcrowding?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:THEre will definitely be a fight from developers to scrap the Agricultural Reserve. Give it about a decade.
Which part of the Ag reserve is on the red line and part of the long-term master plan for development?
You people really love your straw men.
There has been a good amount of high density development in Montgomery County that is nowhere near the Red Line. There’s a bunch of new condos/townhouses up in Silver Spring at the corner of Norbeck and Georgia. Tons of new apartment complexes near Shady Grove hospital. Crown isn’t really near the Red alone.
You make it sound like the County only wants development near the Red Line. In reality, it appears that the County wants to let developers develop every free square inch of land. Without enough consideration for building the appropriate facilities (parks, schools, roads).
Anonymous
02/06/2019 11:14
Subject: RM Cluster Overcrowding?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:THEre will definitely be a fight from developers to scrap the Agricultural Reserve. Give it about a decade.
Which part of the Ag reserve is on the red line and part of the long-term master plan for development?
You people really love your straw men.
What part of Clarksburg is on the Red Line?
Anonymous
02/06/2019 10:55
Subject: RM Cluster Overcrowding?
Hey , if we don't keep building all the time, we will die as city. That's the logic Mayor and 2 other council members used, lol.
Anonymous
02/05/2019 19:10
Subject: RM Cluster Overcrowding?
Anonymous wrote:THEre will definitely be a fight from developers to scrap the Agricultural Reserve. Give it about a decade.
Which part of the Ag reserve is on the red line and part of the long-term master plan for development?
You people really love your straw men.
Anonymous
02/05/2019 18:47
Subject: RM Cluster Overcrowding?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any city leaders not having kids in MCPS is not going to understand what sacrifices parents make to get into decent school.
Our dear mayor basically lectured us to "be glad we're not Cumberland." Before she caved and let proverbial camel's nose into the tent.
And how her "kids went to Beall" (the local elementary school) But, in fact, just to the elementary school, because they then metriculated to the Bullis Prep School. So I doubt firsthand knowledge of overcrowding is really in her wheelhouse.
Mayor rightly pointed out that we should be glad that we are not Cumberland. We should be thankful to have over crowding in our school and thankful for allow city leaders to build more here, because we are not Cumberland.
It does seem stupid to present it as "if we don't approve everything that comes along, and keep growing, we will be a slowly dying [mountain] city." That attitude writ large would say "scrap the Ag preserve, we should be Loudoun County"
THEre will definitely be a fight from developers to scrap the Agricultural Reserve. Give it about a decade.
Anonymous
02/05/2019 18:43
Subject: RM Cluster Overcrowding?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any city leaders not having kids in MCPS is not going to understand what sacrifices parents make to get into decent school.
Our dear mayor basically lectured us to "be glad we're not Cumberland." Before she caved and let proverbial camel's nose into the tent.
And how her "kids went to Beall" (the local elementary school) But, in fact, just to the elementary school, because they then metriculated to the Bullis Prep School. So I doubt firsthand knowledge of overcrowding is really in her wheelhouse.
Mayor rightly pointed out that we should be glad that we are not Cumberland. We should be thankful to have over crowding in our school and thankful for allow city leaders to build more here, because we are not Cumberland.
It does seem stupid to present it as "if we don't approve everything that comes along, and keep growing, we will be a slowly dying [mountain] city." That attitude writ large would say "scrap the Ag preserve, we should be Loudoun County"
Those comments were very weird to be honest. Keep growing argument at 100% is different than when school is at 120%. There is no end to this irrational argument because some can reapet it as parrot even when school is at 200%.
Anonymous
02/05/2019 18:11
Subject: RM Cluster Overcrowding?
Anonymous wrote:It does seem stupid to present it as "if we don't approve everything that comes along, and keep growing, we will be a slowly dying [mountain] city." That attitude writ large would say "scrap the Ag preserve, we should be Loudoun County"
Weird comment given that Twinbrook Quarter is the exact opposite of the type of suburban sprawl that blights Loudoun County.
Anonymous
02/05/2019 18:08
Subject: RM Cluster Overcrowding?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any city leaders not having kids in MCPS is not going to understand what sacrifices parents make to get into decent school.
Our dear mayor basically lectured us to "be glad we're not Cumberland." Before she caved and let proverbial camel's nose into the tent.
And how her "kids went to Beall" (the local elementary school) But, in fact, just to the elementary school, because they then metriculated to the Bullis Prep School. So I doubt firsthand knowledge of overcrowding is really in her wheelhouse.
Mayor rightly pointed out that we should be glad that we are not Cumberland. We should be thankful to have over crowding in our school and thankful for allow city leaders to build more here, because we are not Cumberland.
It does seem stupid to present it as "if we don't approve everything that comes along, and keep growing, we will be a slowly dying [mountain] city." That attitude writ large would say "scrap the Ag preserve, we should be Loudoun County"
Anonymous
02/05/2019 17:13
Subject: RM Cluster Overcrowding?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any city leaders not having kids in MCPS is not going to understand what sacrifices parents make to get into decent school.
Our dear mayor basically lectured us to "be glad we're not Cumberland." Before she caved and let proverbial camel's nose into the tent.
And how her "kids went to Beall" (the local elementary school) But, in fact, just to the elementary school, because they then metriculated to the Bullis Prep School. So I doubt firsthand knowledge of overcrowding is really in her wheelhouse.
Mayor rightly pointed out that we should be glad that we are not Cumberland. We should be thankful to have over crowding in our school and thankful for allow city leaders to build more here, because we are not Cumberland.
Everyone should listen to her lecture and be thankful to even have a school in city. Citizens should be content with overcrowded school because they can't afford Bullis Prep like Mayor.
Anonymous
02/05/2019 17:11
Subject: RM Cluster Overcrowding?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
City leaders increasing capacity limit form 110 to 120% few years ago. Now they allowed exemption in TB. One council member is on the record that he wants more housing and fine with 150%. Why do you think that more exemptions are not coming?
Because of the backlash over this one exemption. But like I said, until it happens, I'm not panicking just yet.
There was a huge backlash when same leaders changed 110% limit to 120%. That didn't stop same leaders to make overcrowding worse on top of 120%.
Anonymous
02/05/2019 17:08
Subject: RM Cluster Overcrowding?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any city leaders not having kids in MCPS is not going to understand what sacrifices parents make to get into decent school.
Our dear mayor basically lectured us to "be glad we're not Cumberland." Before she caved and let proverbial camel's nose into the tent.
And how her "kids went to Beall" (the local elementary school) But, in fact, just to the elementary school, because they then metriculated to the Bullis Prep School. So I doubt firsthand knowledge of overcrowding is really in her wheelhouse.
Mayor rightly pointed out that we should be glad that we are not Cumberland. We should be thankful to have over crowding in our school and thankful for allow city leaders to build more here, because we are not Cumberland.
Anonymous
02/05/2019 16:13
Subject: RM Cluster Overcrowding?
Anonymous wrote:
City leaders increasing capacity limit form 110 to 120% few years ago. Now they allowed exemption in TB. One council member is on the record that he wants more housing and fine with 150%. Why do you think that more exemptions are not coming?
Because of the backlash over this one exemption. But like I said, until it happens, I'm not panicking just yet.
Anonymous
02/05/2019 16:11
Subject: RM Cluster Overcrowding?
Anonymous wrote:Rockville's new name is going to be Waivertown.
If it's for smart development like this, we can only hope.
Anonymous
02/05/2019 16:10
Subject: RM Cluster Overcrowding?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People, the Wegman development will impact WJ cluster, NOT RM cluster.
WJ more than RM, but it will impact both clusters.
Yes, here is a map: https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/1d1478_fbb4294caae64494a9f41a2e433df550.pdf
See "Congressional Ln. Ext."? That is the current boundary between RM (Bayard Rustin ES) to the left/North and WJ (Farmland ES) to the right/South.
None of this site plan is within the Twinbrook ES boundary.
Anonymous
02/05/2019 15:35
Subject: RM Cluster Overcrowding?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People, the Wegman development will impact WJ cluster, NOT RM cluster.
WJ more than RM, but it will impact both clusters.
Possibly, but I don't think the impact to RM is as bad as people are thinking it will be. No, I'm not happy with this decision, but I just don't think it's sky falling worthy worry.
Maybe this one decision is NBD, but when you look a ton the big picture, you will see thousands of additional housing units being planned for that immediate area. They’re not even finished building the townhouses by the Metro. Plus the apartments by Ardennes are not full yet (I believe)?
by arsennes
I posted this in another thread.
Any new development that was approved by the city in 2017 or before has already been calculated in the capacity calculations. I'm going to assume that those other developments were approved in 2017, maybe 2018.
Big picture:
1. they gave this one developer an exemption to build this one development
2. 80% of the development will hit WJ not RM
I'm not happy about the waiver or exemption or whatever they are calling it, but big picture, I don't think the impact to RM for this one development is going to be significant.
However, if the city then gives another waiver/exemption to another developer, then I might start to panic a bit more. BTW, I did send an email to the city indicating I was not happy with the decision.
City leaders increasing capacity limit form 110 to 120% few years ago. Now they allowed exemption in TB. One council member is on the record that he wants more housing and fine with 150%. Why do you think that more exemptions are not coming?
Rockville's new name is going to be Waivertown.