Privilege at work, again. The mom is hoping to rewrite the narrative about her nazi, racist son.

We know now that he went to Reston with the intent to kill the parents. It wasn't a momentary reaction to them intruding on him. He premeditated the killing while he drove from Lorton to Reston. And tge school knew that both kids were co-dependent and headed for disaster. More is going to come out (or is known to police) regarding the school's role in this. They foretold this in Sept.

Anonymous wrote:Article said mom was estranged from dad. Dad left gun out if I recall right. As I posted in the thread I started before I knew this one was continued, I applaud her speaking out so we can learn from this and hopefully it will wake up others in her situation in denial. However, based on her FB I think he just took her concerning beliefs and ran so far right it is even more disturbing.

Wonder if it's true she wanted to commit him. No clinician can verify that without consent. Not surprised she couldn't because our mental health system is a mess. Why won't she share the conviction in 2016. All she says is he was banned from the internet.

If she wanted him seriously committed on the spot you go to the ER and have him placed on a hold. My good friends have had to do this twice in Fairfax with their teenager who sounds very similar to the boy in question, as recent as this month. Blaming it on a holiday weekend or after business hours is a bunch of should have, would have, could have.

Please know that this IS an option, in a real, true, emergency. It may not be a parents first choice, it may have to be by force, but if you think your child is a threat to themselves or someone else, you can always take them to the ER. You can call 911 to help you. This may be a last resort but it is a resort. This particular case has really opened the eyes for my good friends whose teenager has serious mental and behavioral issues.

Article said mom was estranged from dad. Dad left gun out if I recall right. As I posted in the thread I started before I knew this one was continued, I applaud her speaking out so we can learn from this and hopefully it will wake up others in her situation in denial. However, based on her FB I think he just took her concerning beliefs and ran so far right it is even more disturbing.

Wonder if it's true she wanted to commit him. No clinician can verify that without consent. Not surprised she couldn't because our mental health system is a mess. Why won't she share the conviction in 2016. All she says is he was banned from the internet.

I didn't read through this thread so forgive me if I am being redundant, but I was interested in the killer's mom's comment that "He is not a Nazi...it's the bullying and years of depression that is making him think/act like a Nazi." I am paraphrasing.

I mean, but this definition, isn't every Nazi not a Nazi? Virtually every terrible person who does terrible things has a mom or spouse or child or family who sees human elements of worth in them. I'm sure they're right about some of those observations. But still, people who do terrible things are the source of terrible things. and saying "He is not terrible" is kind of terrible too. I would be more sympathetic if she said "I am so upset and confused about how my son, from a loving and tolerant family, could do such hateful and intolerant things. We are despondent. We are let down. We are regretful of how we may have done things to stop it and we didn't."

I get that denial is powerful, but the fact that they had an UNLOCKED GUN and is just too much.

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Anonymous wrote: I don't feel bad for the girl in the family that got shot. She bears a lot of responsibility for her parents being dead. She deserves to feel crushing, life-long guilt.

That's what you wish on a girl who had emotional issues before this all happened?

Wow.

She was also special needs, I think? She met him in the school for children with emotional and mental issues. They were both searching for someone to confide in, which is sweet IMHO. However, he was INSANE and easily susceptible to a hateful ideology that allowed him to feel powerful.

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Nope, he was radicalized online. Read the HuffPo article above - it has a blow-by-blow timeline of his increasing radicalization, the increasing extremity of his actions and postings.

He wasn't smart enough to come up with the conspiracy theories on his own - he was low IQ and believed any crap written on the internet.

No. He was INSANE even before he had access to the internet. That is the basic issue. You cannot predict what crazy people are going to fixate on - because they are crazy - but the object of their fixation did not "cause" them to become crazy.

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Anonymous wrote: I don't feel bad for the girl in the family that got shot. She bears a lot of responsibility for her parents being dead. She deserves to feel crushing, life-long guilt.

That's what you wish on a girl who had emotional issues before this all happened?

Wow.

She was also special needs, I think? She met him in the school for children with emotional and mental issues. They were both searching for someone to confide in, which is sweet IMHO. However, he was INSANE and easily susceptible to a hateful ideology that allowed him to feel powerful.

FIFY

Nope, he was radicalized online. Read the HuffPo article above - it has a blow-by-blow timeline of his increasing radicalization, the increasing extremity of his actions and postings.

He wasn't smart enough to come up with the conspiracy theories on his own - he was low IQ and believed any crap written on the internet.

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Anonymous wrote: I don't feel bad for the girl in the family that got shot. She bears a lot of responsibility for her parents being dead. She deserves to feel crushing, life-long guilt.

That's what you wish on a girl who had emotional issues before this all happened?

Wow.

She was also special needs, I think? She met him in the school for children with emotional and mental issues. They were both searching for someone to confide in, which is sweet IMHO. However, he was INSANE and easily susceptible to a hateful ideology that allowed him to feel powerful.

FIFY

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Anonymous wrote: I don't feel bad for the girl in the family that got shot. She bears a lot of responsibility for her parents being dead. She deserves to feel crushing, life-long guilt.

That's what you wish on a girl who had emotional issues before this all happened?

Wow.

Yup. She got her parents killed. Her "emotional issues" would not have prevented her from doing what her parents said, keeping that psycho out of their house, and screaming her head off when he arrived outside the house with a gun and asked to come in. Any of this would have kept her parents alive.

His parents seem like very responsible role models:


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/nicholas-giampa-neo-nazi-teenager-murder-girlfriends-parents-virginia_us_5a4d0797e4b0b0e5a7aa4780

Anonymous wrote:Huffington post had an article on her once, I will find the linkl. But the mom posted a got of FB stuff supporting conferderate genreals and statues. Also post pics of her son at gun range with automatic weapon, Very Nancy Lanza like. The apple didn't fall that far from the tree.

Wow, can you find the link and share it? That sounds awful (and not too surprising).

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the mother’s side just published. This whole thing is just awful.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/her-son-facing-murder-charges-is-being-called-an-alt-right-killer-this-mother-blames-herself/2018/03/26/6e4326c4-02a9-11e8-bb03-722769454f82_story.html?utm_term=.7d91f39ffcbf

After reading that, I'm stuck on the fact that she had an unsecured gun in the house. Despicable.

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Have any charges been filed for the parents yet?

I feel awful for the girl, actually. Kids at that school have issues and likely are not as highly functional as most kids their age. She obviously made a connection to the wrong person and it cost her everything. She paid the ultimate price for what should have just been a simple break up.

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Anonymous wrote: I don't feel bad for the girl in the family that got shot. She bears a lot of responsibility for her parents being dead. She deserves to feel crushing, life-long guilt.

That's what you wish on a girl who had emotional issues before this all happened?

Wow.

She was also special needs, I think? She met him in the school for children with emotional and mental issues. They were both searching for someone to confide in, which is sweet IMHO. However, he was radicalized online and easily susceptible to a hateful ideology that allowed him to feel powerful.

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Anonymous wrote: I don't feel bad for the girl in the family that got shot. She bears a lot of responsibility for her parents being dead. She deserves to feel crushing, life-long guilt.

That's what you wish on a girl who had emotional issues before this all happened?

Wow.