Anonymous
11/02/2016 10:41
Subject: VYS Soccer - better or worse?
Red = Columbia Fall Classic in November
Anonymous
11/02/2016 07:56
Subject: Re:VYS Soccer - better or worse?
Any idea which tournaments the U10B and U11B Red and Black played in this season? Did they play Columbus Day weekend? Do they have a tournament in November?
Anonymous
11/01/2016 17:38
Subject: Re:VYS Soccer - better or worse?
Anonymous wrote:I love watching you play (even if you don't play in the Herndon All Star Tournament).
Most kids have gotten wise to the "I love to watch you play," mantra.
Anonymous
11/01/2016 16:37
Subject: VYS Soccer - better or worse?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The VPL experiment hasn't turned out too well in scoreboard terms. Are the players developing despite losing seasons? Can we draw any conclusions about the Lima era as a result of how the older teams have done, or it that not fair? Do we know what the plan might be for the VYS "A" teams in the future? A few younger teams are doing okay.
Hard to say. Younger teams are doing OK. Older girls teams are dominant -- you could argue they aren't getting enough competition in the league -- but they'll age out in a couple of years. The middle years are struggling, particularly on the boys side, and a lot of that had to do with players going to Bethesda South and so forth. I don't blame Eddie for that -- VYS developed some good players, and Bethesda South said, "Hey, thanks very much." It happens.
All of those leagues face this sort of question, though. What does Roanoke Star do in CCL? Should clubs be able to pull an overmatched team out of an age group and perhaps replace that team with a team from another club? That puts a dent in the "club-centric" model, but it means you don't have teams that are hopelessly stuck at a level that's over their heads.
Which Bethesda South team are you referring to? The 02s?
I think so. Last year's U13s, maybe some U12s?
Anonymous
11/01/2016 16:25
Subject: VYS Soccer - better or worse?
Anonymous wrote:Please explain how the older girls are dominant? The Thunder and Patriots, now split up, have done well but the Eddie-trained age groups have not. None of the 00, 01 or 02 teams even made it to the final eight State Cup teams in their age group. Maybe the 03s will change that trend come Spring but dominant" seems an exaggeration for a club that has trouble getting teams to finish in the top 8 teams in the State, and that's not counting the ECNL teams.
U18/19s in VPL: 4-0-0, 29 goals for, 1 goal against
U17s aren't doing as well this season, which surprises me.
Both are in State Cup last eight and have done well in the past -- though they may be the only VYS teams that have done so in recent memory.
Anonymous
11/01/2016 15:17
Subject: VYS Soccer - better or worse?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The VPL experiment hasn't turned out too well in scoreboard terms. Are the players developing despite losing seasons? Can we draw any conclusions about the Lima era as a result of how the older teams have done, or it that not fair? Do we know what the plan might be for the VYS "A" teams in the future? A few younger teams are doing okay.
Hard to say. Younger teams are doing OK. Older girls teams are dominant -- you could argue they aren't getting enough competition in the league -- but they'll age out in a couple of years. The middle years are struggling, particularly on the boys side, and a lot of that had to do with players going to Bethesda South and so forth. I don't blame Eddie for that -- VYS developed some good players, and Bethesda South said, "Hey, thanks very much." It happens.
All of those leagues face this sort of question, though. What does Roanoke Star do in CCL? Should clubs be able to pull an overmatched team out of an age group and perhaps replace that team with a team from another club? That puts a dent in the "club-centric" model, but it means you don't have teams that are hopelessly stuck at a level that's over their heads.
Which Bethesda South team are you referring to? The 02s?
Anonymous
11/01/2016 13:40
Subject: VYS Soccer - better or worse?
Please explain how the older girls are dominant? The Thunder and Patriots, now split up, have done well but the Eddie-trained age groups have not. None of the 00, 01 or 02 teams even made it to the final eight State Cup teams in their age group. Maybe the 03s will change that trend come Spring but dominant" seems an exaggeration for a club that has trouble getting teams to finish in the top 8 teams in the State, and that's not counting the ECNL teams.
Anonymous
11/01/2016 13:09
Subject: VYS Soccer - better or worse?
Interesting stuff
Anonymous
11/01/2016 11:44
Subject: VYS Soccer - better or worse?
Anonymous wrote:The VPL experiment hasn't turned out too well in scoreboard terms. Are the players developing despite losing seasons? Can we draw any conclusions about the Lima era as a result of how the older teams have done, or it that not fair? Do we know what the plan might be for the VYS "A" teams in the future? A few younger teams are doing okay.
Hard to say. Younger teams are doing OK. Older girls teams are dominant -- you could argue they aren't getting enough competition in the league -- but they'll age out in a couple of years. The middle years are struggling, particularly on the boys side, and a lot of that had to do with players going to Bethesda South and so forth. I don't blame Eddie for that -- VYS developed some good players, and Bethesda South said, "Hey, thanks very much." It happens.
All of those leagues face this sort of question, though. What does Roanoke Star do in CCL? Should clubs be able to pull an overmatched team out of an age group and perhaps replace that team with a team from another club? That puts a dent in the "club-centric" model, but it means you don't have teams that are hopelessly stuck at a level that's over their heads.
Anonymous
11/01/2016 11:09
Subject: VYS Soccer - better or worse?
The VPL experiment hasn't turned out too well in scoreboard terms. Are the players developing despite losing seasons? Can we draw any conclusions about the Lima era as a result of how the older teams have done, or it that not fair? Do we know what the plan might be for the VYS "A" teams in the future? A few younger teams are doing okay.
Anonymous
10/27/2016 14:52
Subject: Re:VYS Soccer - better or worse?
I love watching you play (even if you don't play in the Herndon All Star Tournament).
Anonymous
10/27/2016 13:06
Subject: VYS Soccer - better or worse?
Praise Jesus, crisis averted. The point is that clubs, leagues, and coaches should continue to intensely challenge young soccer players with the right levels of training complexity and difficulty, and the right levels of competition, for their ages, whether we're talking about all-star tournaments, house leagues with minimum playing-time and mercy rules, or something else. And they should simply ignore the people whose brains have been colonized by those vicious talk-radio voices that say "everyone gets a trophy, everyone gets a trophy blah blah ack" until their faces melt. Bless you.
Anonymous
10/27/2016 10:17
Subject: VYS Soccer - better or worse?
Anonymous wrote:Not that your views make any sense at all, but it should be noted that VYS is entering a lot of teams in the Herndon Cup. Some of the comments in this thread about all-star tournaments are from people who aren't VYS. So once again you've jumped to errant conclusions and fallen flat on your face.
Well thank God, crisis averted. But I think this debate was pertaining to a couple of excluded age groups.
Anonymous
Anonymous
10/26/2016 13:52
Subject: VYS Soccer - better or worse?
Not that your views make any sense at all, but it should be noted that VYS is entering a lot of teams in the Herndon Cup. Some of the comments in this thread about all-star tournaments are from people who aren't VYS. So once again you've jumped to errant conclusions and fallen flat on your face.