Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Of course everyone agrees that the true offenders were the family, for being unpopular and complaining, and the boy, who should have kept his mouth shut. Amirite?! Boys will be boys and we all have to protect our investment in the GDS brand.
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The family should be provided with the report, redacted if need be.
They will get it in litigation in any event.
Preserving the privilege so that the parents can’t get the report in litigation is precisely why the school isn’t providing it in the first place.
What privilege? There's no consultant privilege, they didn't hire a law firm.
Well it could be that the school has a law firm and the law firm hired the T&M Group. Isnt that the simple way people navigate privilege? The report is work product paid by the lawyers....who in turn just pass through a cost to the ultimate client, GDS
That's why law firms are usually hired. But the school publicly said that they hired T&M.
Maybe the family made a threat of litigation and the report was always intended to be anti-accuser? But they can't have it both ways. It can't be both a neutral investigation of an alleged incident and a defensive report in anticipation of litigation.
Tell me you don’t understand how internal investigations work in the real world without telling me you don’t j sweat and how internal investigations work in the real world.
Lol, I know how internal HR style investigations work in the real world. That's why I'm skeptical that an impartial investigation happened and think the report should be released. I don't think GDS took the allegations seriously. I think they went straight to CYA mode.
They took the allegations seriously enough to go straight into CYA mode, which is alarming.
Explain again how cooperating with the police and hiring a firm to do an investigation is CYA mode?
One way to tell when people have an agenda to just take down someone else is when there is no way to satisfy them. If GDS had not cooperated with MPD and send a message to the school immediately you would say that was CYA. If they did their own investigation instead of hiring a firm that would be a coverup. There is literally nothing the school could do to make you happy.
It depends on what the "investigation" was. The answer to everyone's questions and assumptions is in that T&M report. The way that report is structured and its description of what they did (billed for) either proves the claims that GDS acted properly or shows they didn't.
+1
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Of course everyone agrees that the true offenders were the family, for being unpopular and complaining, and the boy, who should have kept his mouth shut. Amirite?! Boys will be boys and we all have to protect our investment in the GDS brand.
/s
The family should be provided with the report, redacted if need be.
They will get it in litigation in any event.
Preserving the privilege so that the parents can’t get the report in litigation is precisely why the school isn’t providing it in the first place.
What privilege? There's no consultant privilege, they didn't hire a law firm.
Well it could be that the school has a law firm and the law firm hired the T&M Group. Isnt that the simple way people navigate privilege? The report is work product paid by the lawyers....who in turn just pass through a cost to the ultimate client, GDS
That's why law firms are usually hired. But the school publicly said that they hired T&M.
Maybe the family made a threat of litigation and the report was always intended to be anti-accuser? But they can't have it both ways. It can't be both a neutral investigation of an alleged incident and a defensive report in anticipation of litigation.
Tell me you don’t understand how internal investigations work in the real world without telling me you don’t j sweat and how internal investigations work in the real world.
Lol, I know how internal HR style investigations work in the real world. That's why I'm skeptical that an impartial investigation happened and think the report should be released. I don't think GDS took the allegations seriously. I think they went straight to CYA mode.
GDS has zero incentive not to take it seriously. Do you think the school actually wouldn’t want to find two older students (again how is the child so sure they were students if they were disguised?) who literally raped an 11 year old? That makes no sense at all.
This is stuff you'd rather keep hidden. The reputational risk are too high.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Of course everyone agrees that the true offenders were the family, for being unpopular and complaining, and the boy, who should have kept his mouth shut. Amirite?! Boys will be boys and we all have to protect our investment in the GDS brand.
/s
The family should be provided with the report, redacted if need be.
They will get it in litigation in any event.
Preserving the privilege so that the parents can’t get the report in litigation is precisely why the school isn’t providing it in the first place.
What privilege? There's no consultant privilege, they didn't hire a law firm.
Well it could be that the school has a law firm and the law firm hired the T&M Group. Isnt that the simple way people navigate privilege? The report is work product paid by the lawyers....who in turn just pass through a cost to the ultimate client, GDS
That's why law firms are usually hired. But the school publicly said that they hired T&M.
Maybe the family made a threat of litigation and the report was always intended to be anti-accuser? But they can't have it both ways. It can't be both a neutral investigation of an alleged incident and a defensive report in anticipation of litigation.
Tell me you don’t understand how internal investigations work in the real world without telling me you don’t j sweat and how internal investigations work in the real world.
Lol, I know how internal HR style investigations work in the real world. That's why I'm skeptical that an impartial investigation happened and think the report should be released. I don't think GDS took the allegations seriously. I think they went straight to CYA mode.
They took the allegations seriously enough to go straight into CYA mode, which is alarming.
Explain again how cooperating with the police and hiring a firm to do an investigation is CYA mode?
One way to tell when people have an agenda to just take down someone else is when there is no way to satisfy them. If GDS had not cooperated with MPD and send a message to the school immediately you would say that was CYA. If they did their own investigation instead of hiring a firm that would be a coverup. There is literally nothing the school could do to make you happy.
Release the independent investigation. At least to the victim. And also make aspects of their investigation public to prove it was legitimate. But they don’t want to do that.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Of course everyone agrees that the true offenders were the family, for being unpopular and complaining, and the boy, who should have kept his mouth shut. Amirite?! Boys will be boys and we all have to protect our investment in the GDS brand.
/s
The family should be provided with the report, redacted if need be.
They will get it in litigation in any event.
Preserving the privilege so that the parents can’t get the report in litigation is precisely why the school isn’t providing it in the first place.
What privilege? There's no consultant privilege, they didn't hire a law firm.
Well it could be that the school has a law firm and the law firm hired the T&M Group. Isnt that the simple way people navigate privilege? The report is work product paid by the lawyers....who in turn just pass through a cost to the ultimate client, GDS
That's why law firms are usually hired. But the school publicly said that they hired T&M.
Maybe the family made a threat of litigation and the report was always intended to be anti-accuser? But they can't have it both ways. It can't be both a neutral investigation of an alleged incident and a defensive report in anticipation of litigation.
Tell me you don’t understand how internal investigations work in the real world without telling me you don’t j sweat and how internal investigations work in the real world.
Lol, I know how internal HR style investigations work in the real world. That's why I'm skeptical that an impartial investigation happened and think the report should be released. I don't think GDS took the allegations seriously. I think they went straight to CYA mode.
GDS has zero incentive not to take it seriously. Do you think the school actually wouldn’t want to find two older students (again how is the child so sure they were students if they were disguised?) who literally raped an 11 year old? That makes no sense at all.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Of course everyone agrees that the true offenders were the family, for being unpopular and complaining, and the boy, who should have kept his mouth shut. Amirite?! Boys will be boys and we all have to protect our investment in the GDS brand.
/s
The family should be provided with the report, redacted if need be.
They will get it in litigation in any event.
Preserving the privilege so that the parents can’t get the report in litigation is precisely why the school isn’t providing it in the first place.
What privilege? There's no consultant privilege, they didn't hire a law firm.
Well it could be that the school has a law firm and the law firm hired the T&M Group. Isnt that the simple way people navigate privilege? The report is work product paid by the lawyers....who in turn just pass through a cost to the ultimate client, GDS
That's why law firms are usually hired. But the school publicly said that they hired T&M.
Maybe the family made a threat of litigation and the report was always intended to be anti-accuser? But they can't have it both ways. It can't be both a neutral investigation of an alleged incident and a defensive report in anticipation of litigation.
Tell me you don’t understand how internal investigations work in the real world without telling me you don’t j sweat and how internal investigations work in the real world.
Lol, I know how internal HR style investigations work in the real world. That's why I'm skeptical that an impartial investigation happened and think the report should be released. I don't think GDS took the allegations seriously. I think they went straight to CYA mode.
They took the allegations seriously enough to go straight into CYA mode, which is alarming.
Explain again how cooperating with the police and hiring a firm to do an investigation is CYA mode?
One way to tell when people have an agenda to just take down someone else is when there is no way to satisfy them. If GDS had not cooperated with MPD and send a message to the school immediately you would say that was CYA. If they did their own investigation instead of hiring a firm that would be a coverup. There is literally nothing the school could do to make you happy.
It depends on what the "investigation" was. The answer to everyone's questions and assumptions is in that T&M report. The way that report is structured and its description of what they did (billed for) either proves the claims that GDS acted properly or shows they didn't.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Of course everyone agrees that the true offenders were the family, for being unpopular and complaining, and the boy, who should have kept his mouth shut. Amirite?! Boys will be boys and we all have to protect our investment in the GDS brand.
/s
The family should be provided with the report, redacted if need be.
They will get it in litigation in any event.
Preserving the privilege so that the parents can’t get the report in litigation is precisely why the school isn’t providing it in the first place.
What privilege? There's no consultant privilege, they didn't hire a law firm.
Well it could be that the school has a law firm and the law firm hired the T&M Group. Isnt that the simple way people navigate privilege? The report is work product paid by the lawyers....who in turn just pass through a cost to the ultimate client, GDS
That's why law firms are usually hired. But the school publicly said that they hired T&M.
Maybe the family made a threat of litigation and the report was always intended to be anti-accuser? But they can't have it both ways. It can't be both a neutral investigation of an alleged incident and a defensive report in anticipation of litigation.
Tell me you don’t understand how internal investigations work in the real world without telling me you don’t j sweat and how internal investigations work in the real world.
Lol, I know how internal HR style investigations work in the real world. That's why I'm skeptical that an impartial investigation happened and think the report should be released. I don't think GDS took the allegations seriously. I think they went straight to CYA mode.
They took the allegations seriously enough to go straight into CYA mode, which is alarming.
Explain again how cooperating with the police and hiring a firm to do an investigation is CYA mode?
One way to tell when people have an agenda to just take down someone else is when there is no way to satisfy them. If GDS had not cooperated with MPD and send a message to the school immediately you would say that was CYA. If they did their own investigation instead of hiring a firm that would be a coverup. There is literally nothing the school could do to make you happy.
Release the independent investigation. At least to the victim. And also make aspects of their investigation public to prove it was legitimate. But they don’t want to do that.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Of course everyone agrees that the true offenders were the family, for being unpopular and complaining, and the boy, who should have kept his mouth shut. Amirite?! Boys will be boys and we all have to protect our investment in the GDS brand.
/s
The family should be provided with the report, redacted if need be.
They will get it in litigation in any event.
Preserving the privilege so that the parents can’t get the report in litigation is precisely why the school isn’t providing it in the first place.
What privilege? There's no consultant privilege, they didn't hire a law firm.
Well it could be that the school has a law firm and the law firm hired the T&M Group. Isnt that the simple way people navigate privilege? The report is work product paid by the lawyers....who in turn just pass through a cost to the ultimate client, GDS
That's why law firms are usually hired. But the school publicly said that they hired T&M.
Maybe the family made a threat of litigation and the report was always intended to be anti-accuser? But they can't have it both ways. It can't be both a neutral investigation of an alleged incident and a defensive report in anticipation of litigation.
Tell me you don’t understand how internal investigations work in the real world without telling me you don’t j sweat and how internal investigations work in the real world.
Lol, I know how internal HR style investigations work in the real world. That's why I'm skeptical that an impartial investigation happened and think the report should be released. I don't think GDS took the allegations seriously. I think they went straight to CYA mode.
They took the allegations seriously enough to go straight into CYA mode, which is alarming.
Explain again how cooperating with the police and hiring a firm to do an investigation is CYA mode?
One way to tell when people have an agenda to just take down someone else is when there is no way to satisfy them. If GDS had not cooperated with MPD and send a message to the school immediately you would say that was CYA. If they did their own investigation instead of hiring a firm that would be a coverup. There is literally nothing the school could do to make you happy.
It depends on what the "investigation" was. The answer to everyone's questions and assumptions is in that T&M report. The way that report is structured and its description of what they did (billed for) either proves the claims that GDS acted properly or shows they didn't.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Of course everyone agrees that the true offenders were the family, for being unpopular and complaining, and the boy, who should have kept his mouth shut. Amirite?! Boys will be boys and we all have to protect our investment in the GDS brand.
/s
The family should be provided with the report, redacted if need be.
They will get it in litigation in any event.
Preserving the privilege so that the parents can’t get the report in litigation is precisely why the school isn’t providing it in the first place.
What privilege? There's no consultant privilege, they didn't hire a law firm.
Well it could be that the school has a law firm and the law firm hired the T&M Group. Isnt that the simple way people navigate privilege? The report is work product paid by the lawyers....who in turn just pass through a cost to the ultimate client, GDS
That's why law firms are usually hired. But the school publicly said that they hired T&M.
Maybe the family made a threat of litigation and the report was always intended to be anti-accuser? But they can't have it both ways. It can't be both a neutral investigation of an alleged incident and a defensive report in anticipation of litigation.
Tell me you don’t understand how internal investigations work in the real world without telling me you don’t j sweat and how internal investigations work in the real world.
Lol, I know how internal HR style investigations work in the real world. That's why I'm skeptical that an impartial investigation happened and think the report should be released. I don't think GDS took the allegations seriously. I think they went straight to CYA mode.
GDS has zero incentive not to take it seriously. Do you think the school actually wouldn’t want to find two older students (again how is the child so sure they were students if they were disguised?) who literally raped an 11 year old? That makes no sense at all.
was the boy target because of his popular family? We all need to look into see if race and religion played a role in how this case was investigated.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m glad the parents took the step of sending a letter to the community because maybe it will lead to some new information. And I understand they feel let down by the school and law-enforcement. Their number one concern is their child as it would be for any of us. Yet, amidst the sadness I have for what happened to this boy, and my anger at the perpetrators, and my frustration that no suspects were identified, I’m also left with a sense of dismay by the people in this thread that think that somehow the school has some great culpability and malfeasance. With a lack of justice, people think that somebody has to go down for this and that somehow it should be GDS and the HOS, and I think that’s just wrong. The school was told not to interfere with a law enforcement investigation. And the protection of privacy laws cannot just be waived. It’s a terrible situation, but that’s reality, folks.
Utter bollocks.
At the end of the day, we simply don't know what happened. We know what was alleged to have happened. You can believe the victim and also acknowledge that the story has a lot of holes in it. What I find interesting here is that a few families in the grades in question have chimed in here to say that they are comfortable with the process and outcome.
No, none of the families are comfortable with any of this.
This. The majority of GDS parents I've spoken to are unhappy about the way the school handled this, or comfortable that all protective steps have been taken. Also, despite what PP said, the family was quite popular
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Of course everyone agrees that the true offenders were the family, for being unpopular and complaining, and the boy, who should have kept his mouth shut. Amirite?! Boys will be boys and we all have to protect our investment in the GDS brand.
/s
The family should be provided with the report, redacted if need be.
They will get it in litigation in any event.
Preserving the privilege so that the parents can’t get the report in litigation is precisely why the school isn’t providing it in the first place.
What privilege? There's no consultant privilege, they didn't hire a law firm.
Well it could be that the school has a law firm and the law firm hired the T&M Group. Isnt that the simple way people navigate privilege? The report is work product paid by the lawyers....who in turn just pass through a cost to the ultimate client, GDS
That's why law firms are usually hired. But the school publicly said that they hired T&M.
Maybe the family made a threat of litigation and the report was always intended to be anti-accuser? But they can't have it both ways. It can't be both a neutral investigation of an alleged incident and a defensive report in anticipation of litigation.
Tell me you don’t understand how internal investigations work in the real world without telling me you don’t j sweat and how internal investigations work in the real world.
Lol, I know how internal HR style investigations work in the real world. That's why I'm skeptical that an impartial investigation happened and think the report should be released. I don't think GDS took the allegations seriously. I think they went straight to CYA mode.
They took the allegations seriously enough to go straight into CYA mode, which is alarming.
Explain again how cooperating with the police and hiring a firm to do an investigation is CYA mode?
One way to tell when people have an agenda to just take down someone else is when there is no way to satisfy them. If GDS had not cooperated with MPD and send a message to the school immediately you would say that was CYA. If they did their own investigation instead of hiring a firm that would be a coverup. There is literally nothing the school could do to make you happy.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Of course everyone agrees that the true offenders were the family, for being unpopular and complaining, and the boy, who should have kept his mouth shut. Amirite?! Boys will be boys and we all have to protect our investment in the GDS brand.
/s
The family should be provided with the report, redacted if need be.
They will get it in litigation in any event.
Preserving the privilege so that the parents can’t get the report in litigation is precisely why the school isn’t providing it in the first place.
What privilege? There's no consultant privilege, they didn't hire a law firm.
Well it could be that the school has a law firm and the law firm hired the T&M Group. Isnt that the simple way people navigate privilege? The report is work product paid by the lawyers....who in turn just pass through a cost to the ultimate client, GDS
That's why law firms are usually hired. But the school publicly said that they hired T&M.
Maybe the family made a threat of litigation and the report was always intended to be anti-accuser? But they can't have it both ways. It can't be both a neutral investigation of an alleged incident and a defensive report in anticipation of litigation.
Tell me you don’t understand how internal investigations work in the real world without telling me you don’t j sweat and how internal investigations work in the real world.
Lol, I know how internal HR style investigations work in the real world. That's why I'm skeptical that an impartial investigation happened and think the report should be released. I don't think GDS took the allegations seriously. I think they went straight to CYA mode.
They took the allegations seriously enough to go straight into CYA mode, which is alarming.
Explain again how cooperating with the police and hiring a firm to do an investigation is CYA mode?
One way to tell when people have an agenda to just take down someone else is when there is no way to satisfy them. If GDS had not cooperated with MPD and send a message to the school immediately you would say that was CYA. If they did their own investigation instead of hiring a firm that would be a coverup. There is literally nothing the school could do to make you happy.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Of course everyone agrees that the true offenders were the family, for being unpopular and complaining, and the boy, who should have kept his mouth shut. Amirite?! Boys will be boys and we all have to protect our investment in the GDS brand.
/s
The family should be provided with the report, redacted if need be.
They will get it in litigation in any event.
Preserving the privilege so that the parents can’t get the report in litigation is precisely why the school isn’t providing it in the first place.
What privilege? There's no consultant privilege, they didn't hire a law firm.
Well it could be that the school has a law firm and the law firm hired the T&M Group. Isnt that the simple way people navigate privilege? The report is work product paid by the lawyers....who in turn just pass through a cost to the ultimate client, GDS
That's why law firms are usually hired. But the school publicly said that they hired T&M.
Maybe the family made a threat of litigation and the report was always intended to be anti-accuser? But they can't have it both ways. It can't be both a neutral investigation of an alleged incident and a defensive report in anticipation of litigation.
Tell me you don’t understand how internal investigations work in the real world without telling me you don’t j sweat and how internal investigations work in the real world.
Lol, I know how internal HR style investigations work in the real world. That's why I'm skeptical that an impartial investigation happened and think the report should be released. I don't think GDS took the allegations seriously. I think they went straight to CYA mode.
They took the allegations seriously enough to go straight into CYA mode, which is alarming.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Of course everyone agrees that the true offenders were the family, for being unpopular and complaining, and the boy, who should have kept his mouth shut. Amirite?! Boys will be boys and we all have to protect our investment in the GDS brand.
/s
The family should be provided with the report, redacted if need be.
They will get it in litigation in any event.
Preserving the privilege so that the parents can’t get the report in litigation is precisely why the school isn’t providing it in the first place.
What privilege? There's no consultant privilege, they didn't hire a law firm.
Well it could be that the school has a law firm and the law firm hired the T&M Group. Isnt that the simple way people navigate privilege? The report is work product paid by the lawyers....who in turn just pass through a cost to the ultimate client, GDS
That's why law firms are usually hired. But the school publicly said that they hired T&M.
Maybe the family made a threat of litigation and the report was always intended to be anti-accuser? But they can't have it both ways. It can't be both a neutral investigation of an alleged incident and a defensive report in anticipation of litigation.
Tell me you don’t understand how internal investigations work in the real world without telling me you don’t j sweat and how internal investigations work in the real world.
Lol, I know how internal HR style investigations work in the real world. That's why I'm skeptical that an impartial investigation happened and think the report should be released. I don't think GDS took the allegations seriously. I think they went straight to CYA mode.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Of course everyone agrees that the true offenders were the family, for being unpopular and complaining, and the boy, who should have kept his mouth shut. Amirite?! Boys will be boys and we all have to protect our investment in the GDS brand.
/s
The family should be provided with the report, redacted if need be.
They will get it in litigation in any event.
Preserving the privilege so that the parents can’t get the report in litigation is precisely why the school isn’t providing it in the first place.
What privilege? There's no consultant privilege, they didn't hire a law firm.
Well it could be that the school has a law firm and the law firm hired the T&M Group. Isnt that the simple way people navigate privilege? The report is work product paid by the lawyers....who in turn just pass through a cost to the ultimate client, GDS
That's why law firms are usually hired. But the school publicly said that they hired T&M.
Maybe the family made a threat of litigation and the report was always intended to be anti-accuser? But they can't have it both ways. It can't be both a neutral investigation of an alleged incident and a defensive report in anticipation of litigation.
Tell me you don’t understand how internal investigations work in the real world without telling me you don’t j sweat and how internal investigations work in the real world.
Lol, I know how internal HR style investigations work in the real world. That's why I'm skeptical that an impartial investigation happened and think the report should be released. I don't think GDS took the allegations seriously. I think they went straight to CYA mode.