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Anonymous wrote:So it turns out Lively’s attorneys never filed the tape, further delaying its release.

You cannot file an audio file with the SDNY. It's simply not an option.

Anonymous wrote:So it turns out Lively’s attorneys never filed the tape, further delaying its release.

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Anonymous wrote:Lawsuit subreddit now speculating about Liman's clerks. Not doxxing them yet, but wondering if they are white feminists or whatever, and I wouldn't be too surprised if they start looking into them. I refuse to make an account on reddit but OMG I hope someone explains to them that's so inappropriate.

Yikes.

It will never happen, but it would be powerful if the parties in this case would issue a joint statement that this case should not be used as an excuse to harass and investigate everyone involved. It's creepy and weird. Everyone needs to stop.

You mean like the Blake bots did on the earlier thread here with every attorney that entered an appearance for WF, including the most junior associates. Pot meet kettle.

Anonymous wrote:So it turns out Lively’s attorneys never filed the tape, further delaying its release.

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Anonymous wrote:Lawsuit subreddit now speculating about Liman's clerks. Not doxxing them yet, but wondering if they are white feminists or whatever, and I wouldn't be too surprised if they start looking into them. I refuse to make an account on reddit but OMG I hope someone explains to them that's so inappropriate.

Yikes.

It will never happen, but it would be powerful if the parties in this case would issue a joint statement that this case should not be used as an excuse to harass and investigate everyone involved. It's creepy and weird. Everyone needs to stop.

Anonymous wrote:Lawsuit subreddit now speculating about Liman's clerks. Not doxxing them yet, but wondering if they are white feminists or whatever, and I wouldn't be too surprised if they start looking into them. I refuse to make an account on reddit but OMG I hope someone explains to them that's so inappropriate.

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Anonymous wrote:Reddit sleuths also discovered Ayoub had written for the NY Times and for SNL's Amy Poehler.

I am fully Team JB, but the sleuths keep coming up with the dumbest connections. Is the implication that Ayoub and the Times were in cahoots? lol. Lots of people write for the Times; it's such a huge paper. These are the same people who believed that Ronan Farrow helped Megan Twohey take Justin down because Ronan had dinner with Taylor Swift.

Anonymous wrote:Reddit sleuths also discovered Ayoub had written for the NY Times and for SNL's Amy Poehler.

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Anonymous wrote:Blake bots making up things again. No one said anything about conspiracy, only that whatshername obviously voluntarily turned over her recording to Blake. Liz Plank may have facilitated that given that she knows both parties and has come out publicly in support of Blake. So many weird, no nonsubstantive posts from the dynamic duo.

Whatcha think— two separate posters with an uncanny ability to always been posting at the same time, or one poster using different devices.

She may have, in the sense that anything is possible, but there's also no particular reason to believe it, if all that has been shown is they are acquainted. That's what makes it a conspiracy theory. I'll admit it's possible Blake or someone close to her put Ayoub up to this, but Baldoni fans won't admit it's possible she really did just have a bad experience, recorded Sarowitz because of it, and turned the tape over in good faith.

We don't even know they are acquainted. We know one of them was following the other on Instagram, and at one point one of them commented on the other's public post. They are both feminist writers with some degree of fame and at one point they did projects with the same company. They may never have met but known of each other.

It's a huge leap to assume Plank set up some kind of exchange.

Also, did Sarowitz make the Hamas comment or what? It sounds like he did. That's an incredibly violent, politically charged, insensitive comment to make to someone who works for you, about other people in your industry.

Imagine if there was evidence of Lively saying she wanted to turn Baldoni and Heath into "two dead bodies" by referencing Israel and Hamas. People would rightly lose their minds. But apparently it is fine for Sarowitz to say this? Wtf?

What a bizarre post. We are still waiting for the Court to release the unsealed recording.

Exactly. Let’s not forget Blake’s history of cherry picking or misrepresenting things

It's a long, specific quote. I really struggle to understand ANY context in which it would be understandable to say:

"I will protect the studio like Israel protected itself from Hamas. There were 39,000 dead bodies. There will be two dead bodies when I’m done. Minimum. Not dead, but ‘you’re dead to me.’ So that kind of dead. But dead to a lot of people. If they ever get me to that point. Then I’ll make it worth their while. Because I’m gonna spend a lot of money to make sure the studio is protected.”

Like what possible context would make that okay.

I thought the same thing about Blake's claims when the NYTimes article came out, thinking "wow, the specifics about Justin are damning, he's over," and lo and behold, Blakey indeed completely twisted things.

This is a direct quote from a recorded conversation, made by someone who is not Blake, and who has submitted a sworn affidavit to the court that this is what he said. It's not a narrative description of someone's emotional state or the way they perceived another person's behavior to be intended. It's not subjective.

Is it a direct quote or different segments of a conversation strung together? I believe that’s the unanswered question. Again, it really makes no sense to fight the unsealing if it’s a direct quote.

I think the full context of the audio is not going to make Steve Sarowitz look better, but it will make Claire Ayoub look really antagonistic. I'm torn because I think her beef with him is political and I appreciate that she's pro-Palestine. But this really has no bearing on this case.

Also possible, there’s a reason Lively wanted it to stay sealed and WF wants the seal removed. Remember WF did not care either way about releasing the name of the declarant.

I am sure the reason WF wants the seal removed is that they feel the context will help them some. However, it's really unclear at this point if Lively wanted the seal to conceal the context, or if it was just to try and protect Claire Ayoub, who may have been reluctant to share this for a variety of reasons. I agree with the court's decision to expose her, it was necessary, but it's hard for me to read Lively's motivations there.

I'll not that Ayoub lists the quote in her declaration the same way Lively lists it in her motion -- as one continuous statement. I am highly skeptical that Ayoub would cherry pick in a deceptive way to humiliate the billionaire who financed her last project, as this would be career ruining. Whereas if she really does have audio tape of Sarowitz saying that to her, I don't think she's risking career suicide coming forward. So that seems like the most likely outcome.

I think people on both sides of this case need to get used to the idea that none of these people are heroes. Like you can think Baldoni is being falsely accused and Blake is being a manipulative liar, and this doesn't eliminate the possibility that Sarowitz is still a terrible person. His texts/emails from discovery have certainly given me the impression of someone who is not a particularly nice guy. I get that he was stressed about this situation, but even Justin and Jamey at points are like "hey, chill, coming down hard on Blake will not improve this situation."

Well, lucky for us, we don’t have to keep guessing. The tape will eventually be unsealed and then we’ll know, not sure why you keep ruminating over this. Two days of posts over something you keep saying is not important, weird.