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Anonymous wrote:Here's a hint for all your NIMBYs: if you don't like apartments, don't live in them. Radical idea! And spend some of your energy on something more productive than hand-wringing about how some people want to live in something other than some ugly SFH.

Don't like the changes we impose upon you? Move, then!

It's a light version of ethnic cleansing.

I’d say that it’s more of an ideological colonialism. They don’t like how people have chosen to live so they will decide to change it for us, current residents be damned.

It would be a very rare person that lives in that zone that chose to make that development some 60 years ago.

Does the coming gentrification give you just an intellectual thrill or is there a physical excitement to it?

Is it coming gentrification, or coming slums? Pick one and stick with it.

DP, but it’s probably going to be neither because there’s a lot of other undeveloped land in this area with more profit potential. It will be a long time before developers work through those plots and this corridor is redeveloped in a major way, especially absent ultra-low interest rates or a massive turnaround in the county’s labor market. This isn’t something that developers with the capability to deliver a lot of units are asking for. It’s desperation from a planning department whose plans have failed to deliver what they’ve promised.

So, basically nothing is going to happen as a result of the University Boulevard corridor plan? Everything will basically stay the same as it is right now? Okay, then.

More or less, yes. How long will we keep putting stock in planning before they need to deliver some results?

Good news. Everyone who is panicking can stop panicking.

If you think this is a good outcome and that planning is doing good work the. you’re a NIMBY. MoCo needs to grow.

Yes, that is the purpose of the University Boulevard Corridor plan. It's also what the people who are fearmongering misinformation about the University Boulevard Corridor plan are opposed to.

There’s no world in which this idea results in enough housing to affect prices. It’s more performative nonsense from a planning department that hasn't had a good new idea in two decades.

If it did we’d see projections and metrics. If we hold out long enough maybe someone will distract them with the next shiny thing. Let us all remember that this voodoo is based on the construction of a bus system.

They sure have made a lot of promises though. Where’s that cheaper housing they said their subsidies and upzoning would deliver? Remember when “missing middle” referred to the price of housing instead of small houses at astronomical prices? And who can forget the days when we used to aim for affordable housing instead of “more attainable housing?”

"Missing middle" refers to the housing types in the middle of the housing spectrum that are missing because the zoning code does not allow them. One one end of the spectrum: detached one-unit houses and attached one-unit houses. On the other end of the spectrum: large multi-unit buildings. What's in the middle? Various types of smaller multi-unit buildings.

I am pretty sure that you know this, but you prefer not to acknowledge it.

I’m pretty sure I acknowledged your point explicitly but remember for a long time planning let people think missing middle referred to housing for the middle class.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a hint for all your NIMBYs: if you don't like apartments, don't live in them. Radical idea! And spend some of your energy on something more productive than hand-wringing about how some people want to live in something other than some ugly SFH.

Don't like the changes we impose upon you? Move, then!

It's a light version of ethnic cleansing.

I’d say that it’s more of an ideological colonialism. They don’t like how people have chosen to live so they will decide to change it for us, current residents be damned.

It would be a very rare person that lives in that zone that chose to make that development some 60 years ago.

Does the coming gentrification give you just an intellectual thrill or is there a physical excitement to it?

Is it coming gentrification, or coming slums? Pick one and stick with it.

DP, but it’s probably going to be neither because there’s a lot of other undeveloped land in this area with more profit potential. It will be a long time before developers work through those plots and this corridor is redeveloped in a major way, especially absent ultra-low interest rates or a massive turnaround in the county’s labor market. This isn’t something that developers with the capability to deliver a lot of units are asking for. It’s desperation from a planning department whose plans have failed to deliver what they’ve promised.

So, basically nothing is going to happen as a result of the University Boulevard corridor plan? Everything will basically stay the same as it is right now? Okay, then.

More or less, yes. How long will we keep putting stock in planning before they need to deliver some results?

Good news. Everyone who is panicking can stop panicking.

If you think this is a good outcome and that planning is doing good work the. you’re a NIMBY. MoCo needs to grow.

Yes, that is the purpose of the University Boulevard Corridor plan. It's also what the people who are fearmongering misinformation about the University Boulevard Corridor plan are opposed to.

There’s no world in which this idea results in enough housing to affect prices. It’s more performative nonsense from a planning department that hasn't had a good new idea in two decades.

If it did we’d see projections and metrics. If we hold out long enough maybe someone will distract them with the next shiny thing. Let us all remember that this voodoo is based on the construction of a bus system.

They sure have made a lot of promises though. Where’s that cheaper housing they said their subsidies and upzoning would deliver? Remember when “missing middle” referred to the price of housing instead of small houses at astronomical prices? And who can forget the days when we used to aim for affordable housing instead of “more attainable housing?”

"Missing middle" refers to the housing types in the middle of the housing spectrum that are missing because the zoning code does not allow them. One one end of the spectrum: detached one-unit houses and attached one-unit houses. On the other end of the spectrum: large multi-unit buildings. What's in the middle? Various types of smaller multi-unit buildings.

I am pretty sure that you know this, but you prefer not to acknowledge it.

It is really bizarre to me that you are so fixate on the type of housing units available rather than whether housing units are affordable. Valuing form over function.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a hint for all your NIMBYs: if you don't like apartments, don't live in them. Radical idea! And spend some of your energy on something more productive than hand-wringing about how some people want to live in something other than some ugly SFH.

Don't like the changes we impose upon you? Move, then!

It's a light version of ethnic cleansing.

I’d say that it’s more of an ideological colonialism. They don’t like how people have chosen to live so they will decide to change it for us, current residents be damned.

It would be a very rare person that lives in that zone that chose to make that development some 60 years ago.

Does the coming gentrification give you just an intellectual thrill or is there a physical excitement to it?

Is it coming gentrification, or coming slums? Pick one and stick with it.

DP, but it’s probably going to be neither because there’s a lot of other undeveloped land in this area with more profit potential. It will be a long time before developers work through those plots and this corridor is redeveloped in a major way, especially absent ultra-low interest rates or a massive turnaround in the county’s labor market. This isn’t something that developers with the capability to deliver a lot of units are asking for. It’s desperation from a planning department whose plans have failed to deliver what they’ve promised.

So, basically nothing is going to happen as a result of the University Boulevard corridor plan? Everything will basically stay the same as it is right now? Okay, then.

More or less, yes. How long will we keep putting stock in planning before they need to deliver some results?

Good news. Everyone who is panicking can stop panicking.

If you think this is a good outcome and that planning is doing good work the. you’re a NIMBY. MoCo needs to grow.

Yes, that is the purpose of the University Boulevard Corridor plan. It's also what the people who are fearmongering misinformation about the University Boulevard Corridor plan are opposed to.

There’s no world in which this idea results in enough housing to affect prices. It’s more performative nonsense from a planning department that hasn't had a good new idea in two decades.

If it did we’d see projections and metrics. If we hold out long enough maybe someone will distract them with the next shiny thing. Let us all remember that this voodoo is based on the construction of a bus system.

They sure have made a lot of promises though. Where’s that cheaper housing they said their subsidies and upzoning would deliver? Remember when “missing middle” referred to the price of housing instead of small houses at astronomical prices? And who can forget the days when we used to aim for affordable housing instead of “more attainable housing?”

"Missing middle" refers to the housing types in the middle of the housing spectrum that are missing because the zoning code does not allow them. One one end of the spectrum: detached one-unit houses and attached one-unit houses. On the other end of the spectrum: large multi-unit buildings. What's in the middle? Various types of smaller multi-unit buildings.

I am pretty sure that you know this, but you prefer not to acknowledge it.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a hint for all your NIMBYs: if you don't like apartments, don't live in them. Radical idea! And spend some of your energy on something more productive than hand-wringing about how some people want to live in something other than some ugly SFH.

Don't like the changes we impose upon you? Move, then!

It's a light version of ethnic cleansing.

I’d say that it’s more of an ideological colonialism. They don’t like how people have chosen to live so they will decide to change it for us, current residents be damned.

It would be a very rare person that lives in that zone that chose to make that development some 60 years ago.

Does the coming gentrification give you just an intellectual thrill or is there a physical excitement to it?

Is it coming gentrification, or coming slums? Pick one and stick with it.

DP, but it’s probably going to be neither because there’s a lot of other undeveloped land in this area with more profit potential. It will be a long time before developers work through those plots and this corridor is redeveloped in a major way, especially absent ultra-low interest rates or a massive turnaround in the county’s labor market. This isn’t something that developers with the capability to deliver a lot of units are asking for. It’s desperation from a planning department whose plans have failed to deliver what they’ve promised.

So, basically nothing is going to happen as a result of the University Boulevard corridor plan? Everything will basically stay the same as it is right now? Okay, then.

More or less, yes. How long will we keep putting stock in planning before they need to deliver some results?

Good news. Everyone who is panicking can stop panicking.

If you think this is a good outcome and that planning is doing good work the. you’re a NIMBY. MoCo needs to grow.

Yes, that is the purpose of the University Boulevard Corridor plan. It's also what the people who are fearmongering misinformation about the University Boulevard Corridor plan are opposed to.

There’s no world in which this idea results in enough housing to affect prices. It’s more performative nonsense from a planning department that hasn't had a good new idea in two decades.

If it did we’d see projections and metrics. If we hold out long enough maybe someone will distract them with the next shiny thing. Let us all remember that this voodoo is based on the construction of a bus system.

They sure have made a lot of promises though. Where’s that cheaper housing they said their subsidies and upzoning would deliver? Remember when “missing middle” referred to the price of housing instead of small houses at astronomical prices? And who can forget the days when we used to aim for affordable housing instead of “more attainable housing?”

"Missing middle" refers to the housing types in the middle of the housing spectrum that are missing because the zoning code does not allow them. One one end of the spectrum: detached one-unit houses and attached one-unit houses. On the other end of the spectrum: large multi-unit buildings. What's in the middle? Various types of smaller multi-unit buildings.

I am pretty sure that you know this, but you prefer not to acknowledge it.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a hint for all your NIMBYs: if you don't like apartments, don't live in them. Radical idea! And spend some of your energy on something more productive than hand-wringing about how some people want to live in something other than some ugly SFH.

Don't like the changes we impose upon you? Move, then!

It's a light version of ethnic cleansing.

I’d say that it’s more of an ideological colonialism. They don’t like how people have chosen to live so they will decide to change it for us, current residents be damned.

It would be a very rare person that lives in that zone that chose to make that development some 60 years ago.

Does the coming gentrification give you just an intellectual thrill or is there a physical excitement to it?

Is it coming gentrification, or coming slums? Pick one and stick with it.

DP, but it’s probably going to be neither because there’s a lot of other undeveloped land in this area with more profit potential. It will be a long time before developers work through those plots and this corridor is redeveloped in a major way, especially absent ultra-low interest rates or a massive turnaround in the county’s labor market. This isn’t something that developers with the capability to deliver a lot of units are asking for. It’s desperation from a planning department whose plans have failed to deliver what they’ve promised.

So, basically nothing is going to happen as a result of the University Boulevard corridor plan? Everything will basically stay the same as it is right now? Okay, then.

More or less, yes. How long will we keep putting stock in planning before they need to deliver some results?

Good news. Everyone who is panicking can stop panicking.

If you think this is a good outcome and that planning is doing good work the. you’re a NIMBY. MoCo needs to grow.

Yes, that is the purpose of the University Boulevard Corridor plan. It's also what the people who are fearmongering misinformation about the University Boulevard Corridor plan are opposed to.

There’s no world in which this idea results in enough housing to affect prices. It’s more performative nonsense from a planning department that hasn't had a good new idea in two decades.

If it did we’d see projections and metrics. If we hold out long enough maybe someone will distract them with the next shiny thing. Let us all remember that this voodoo is based on the construction of a bus system.

They sure have made a lot of promises though. Where’s that cheaper housing they said their subsidies and upzoning would deliver? Remember when “missing middle” referred to the price of housing instead of small houses at astronomical prices? And who can forget the days when we used to aim for affordable housing instead of “more attainable housing?”

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a hint for all your NIMBYs: if you don't like apartments, don't live in them. Radical idea! And spend some of your energy on something more productive than hand-wringing about how some people want to live in something other than some ugly SFH.

Don't like the changes we impose upon you? Move, then!

It's a light version of ethnic cleansing.

I’d say that it’s more of an ideological colonialism. They don’t like how people have chosen to live so they will decide to change it for us, current residents be damned.

It would be a very rare person that lives in that zone that chose to make that development some 60 years ago.

Does the coming gentrification give you just an intellectual thrill or is there a physical excitement to it?

Is it coming gentrification, or coming slums? Pick one and stick with it.

DP, but it’s probably going to be neither because there’s a lot of other undeveloped land in this area with more profit potential. It will be a long time before developers work through those plots and this corridor is redeveloped in a major way, especially absent ultra-low interest rates or a massive turnaround in the county’s labor market. This isn’t something that developers with the capability to deliver a lot of units are asking for. It’s desperation from a planning department whose plans have failed to deliver what they’ve promised.

So, basically nothing is going to happen as a result of the University Boulevard corridor plan? Everything will basically stay the same as it is right now? Okay, then.

More or less, yes. How long will we keep putting stock in planning before they need to deliver some results?

Good news. Everyone who is panicking can stop panicking.

If you think this is a good outcome and that planning is doing good work the. you’re a NIMBY. MoCo needs to grow.

Yes, that is the purpose of the University Boulevard Corridor plan. It's also what the people who are fearmongering misinformation about the University Boulevard Corridor plan are opposed to.

There’s no world in which this idea results in enough housing to affect prices. It’s more performative nonsense from a planning department that hasn't had a good new idea in two decades.

If it did we’d see projections and metrics. If we hold out long enough maybe someone will distract them with the next shiny thing. Let us all remember that this voodoo is based on the construction of a bus system.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a hint for all your NIMBYs: if you don't like apartments, don't live in them. Radical idea! And spend some of your energy on something more productive than hand-wringing about how some people want to live in something other than some ugly SFH.

Don't like the changes we impose upon you? Move, then!

It's a light version of ethnic cleansing.

I’d say that it’s more of an ideological colonialism. They don’t like how people have chosen to live so they will decide to change it for us, current residents be damned.

It would be a very rare person that lives in that zone that chose to make that development some 60 years ago.

Does the coming gentrification give you just an intellectual thrill or is there a physical excitement to it?

Is it coming gentrification, or coming slums? Pick one and stick with it.

DP, but it’s probably going to be neither because there’s a lot of other undeveloped land in this area with more profit potential. It will be a long time before developers work through those plots and this corridor is redeveloped in a major way, especially absent ultra-low interest rates or a massive turnaround in the county’s labor market. This isn’t something that developers with the capability to deliver a lot of units are asking for. It’s desperation from a planning department whose plans have failed to deliver what they’ve promised.

So, basically nothing is going to happen as a result of the University Boulevard corridor plan? Everything will basically stay the same as it is right now? Okay, then.

More or less, yes. How long will we keep putting stock in planning before they need to deliver some results?

Good news. Everyone who is panicking can stop panicking.

If you think this is a good outcome and that planning is doing good work the. you’re a NIMBY. MoCo needs to grow.

Yes, that is the purpose of the University Boulevard Corridor plan. It's also what the people who are fearmongering misinformation about the University Boulevard Corridor plan are opposed to.

There’s no world in which this idea results in enough housing to affect prices. It’s more performative nonsense from a planning department that hasn't had a good new idea in two decades.

Anonymous wrote:I doubt there would be fearmongering if the planning board had been more forthcoming.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a hint for all your NIMBYs: if you don't like apartments, don't live in them. Radical idea! And spend some of your energy on something more productive than hand-wringing about how some people want to live in something other than some ugly SFH.

Don't like the changes we impose upon you? Move, then!

It's a light version of ethnic cleansing.

I’d say that it’s more of an ideological colonialism. They don’t like how people have chosen to live so they will decide to change it for us, current residents be damned.

It would be a very rare person that lives in that zone that chose to make that development some 60 years ago.

Does the coming gentrification give you just an intellectual thrill or is there a physical excitement to it?

Is it coming gentrification, or coming slums? Pick one and stick with it.

DP, but it’s probably going to be neither because there’s a lot of other undeveloped land in this area with more profit potential. It will be a long time before developers work through those plots and this corridor is redeveloped in a major way, especially absent ultra-low interest rates or a massive turnaround in the county’s labor market. This isn’t something that developers with the capability to deliver a lot of units are asking for. It’s desperation from a planning department whose plans have failed to deliver what they’ve promised.

So, basically nothing is going to happen as a result of the University Boulevard corridor plan? Everything will basically stay the same as it is right now? Okay, then.

More or less, yes. How long will we keep putting stock in planning before they need to deliver some results?

Good news. Everyone who is panicking can stop panicking.

If you think this is a good outcome and that planning is doing good work the. you’re a NIMBY. MoCo needs to grow.

Yes, that is the purpose of the University Boulevard Corridor plan. It's also what the people who are fearmongering misinformation about the University Boulevard Corridor plan are opposed to.

There’s no world in which this idea results in enough housing to affect prices. It’s more performative nonsense from a planning department that hasn't had a good new idea in two decades.

Anonymous wrote:I doubt there would be fearmongering if the planning board had been more forthcoming.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a hint for all your NIMBYs: if you don't like apartments, don't live in them. Radical idea! And spend some of your energy on something more productive than hand-wringing about how some people want to live in something other than some ugly SFH.

If you don’t like SFH areas, simply find somewhere else to be an aspiring rental unit slumlord. Buy a properly zoned multifamily property and make it bigger if that makes you happy. You really could be doing so many productive things with your time rather than defend questionable upzoning MLM schemes.

Dude, this entire argument is about how SFH is too entrenched because of rich NIMBYs. Get a clue dude, we are talking over your head.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a hint for all your NIMBYs: if you don't like apartments, don't live in them. Radical idea! And spend some of your energy on something more productive than hand-wringing about how some people want to live in something other than some ugly SFH.

Don't like the changes we impose upon you? Move, then!

It's a light version of ethnic cleansing.

I’d say that it’s more of an ideological colonialism. They don’t like how people have chosen to live so they will decide to change it for us, current residents be damned.

It would be a very rare person that lives in that zone that chose to make that development some 60 years ago.

Does the coming gentrification give you just an intellectual thrill or is there a physical excitement to it?

Is it coming gentrification, or coming slums? Pick one and stick with it.

DP, but it’s probably going to be neither because there’s a lot of other undeveloped land in this area with more profit potential. It will be a long time before developers work through those plots and this corridor is redeveloped in a major way, especially absent ultra-low interest rates or a massive turnaround in the county’s labor market. This isn’t something that developers with the capability to deliver a lot of units are asking for. It’s desperation from a planning department whose plans have failed to deliver what they’ve promised.

So, basically nothing is going to happen as a result of the University Boulevard corridor plan? Everything will basically stay the same as it is right now? Okay, then.

More or less, yes. How long will we keep putting stock in planning before they need to deliver some results?

Good news. Everyone who is panicking can stop panicking.

If you think this is a good outcome and that planning is doing good work the. you’re a NIMBY. MoCo needs to grow.

Yes, that is the purpose of the University Boulevard Corridor plan. It's also what the people who are fearmongering misinformation about the University Boulevard Corridor plan are opposed to.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a hint for all your NIMBYs: if you don't like apartments, don't live in them. Radical idea! And spend some of your energy on something more productive than hand-wringing about how some people want to live in something other than some ugly SFH.

Don't like the changes we impose upon you? Move, then!

It's a light version of ethnic cleansing.

I’d say that it’s more of an ideological colonialism. They don’t like how people have chosen to live so they will decide to change it for us, current residents be damned.

It would be a very rare person that lives in that zone that chose to make that development some 60 years ago.

Does the coming gentrification give you just an intellectual thrill or is there a physical excitement to it?

Is it coming gentrification, or coming slums? Pick one and stick with it.

DP, but it’s probably going to be neither because there’s a lot of other undeveloped land in this area with more profit potential. It will be a long time before developers work through those plots and this corridor is redeveloped in a major way, especially absent ultra-low interest rates or a massive turnaround in the county’s labor market. This isn’t something that developers with the capability to deliver a lot of units are asking for. It’s desperation from a planning department whose plans have failed to deliver what they’ve promised.

So, basically nothing is going to happen as a result of the University Boulevard corridor plan? Everything will basically stay the same as it is right now? Okay, then.

More or less, yes. How long will we keep putting stock in planning before they need to deliver some results?

Good news. Everyone who is panicking can stop panicking.

If you think this is a good outcome and that planning is doing good work the. you’re a NIMBY. MoCo needs to grow.