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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how many people want to deny a man's lived experience. You need to hear and understand his voice. And maybe you'll reveal something about your own biases.

I totally understand his experience. Being hard working and poor is the experience shared by both left and right. Poor people should unite and overthrow the rich and ruling class, be it democratic or republican. It is a false narrative that this anger only comes from the right, against the left.

The song isn’t about his experiences. It’s about stereotypes and imaginary grievances. No rich men from the North or welfare queens persecuted this guy. He’s a simple small-town Virginia guy who has lived the simple small-town life he chose for himself. The song is popular because millions of people want to believe that they are being persecuted if the whole world isn’t kissing their asses every day. They actually have fewer obstacles in life than at any time in history.

Based on your assessment of his situation, it seems that you think life is about choices. Do you apply that line of thinking to everyone's circumstances or just certain groups of people?

Nobody discriminated or segregated or did anything to limit his opportunities. Nobody forced him to drop out of school. He has lived the life he chose. Now he has a successful music career using the old Southern formula of blaming all his struggles on Yankees and welfare queens.

Once again... he is not blaming "Yankees>" The "Rich men north of Richmond" was a reference to politicians in DC. Not "Yankees" in general.

No one has ever referred to DC or the federal government as “rich men north of Richmond.” Never. It’s a neo-Confederate reference. It doesn’t make sense as anything else.

The guy obviously likes word play--in this case between "rich men" and "Richmond."

See also " the use of "miners" and "minors" in the lyrics.

The “rich men” word play still doesn’t fit DC or the government. Call us bureaucratic, call us woke, but DC is not about rich men controlling everything. Rich men probably have less clout in DC than in any other city or state in the country.

Oh, please. Like Dianne Feinstein? Nancy Pelosi? John Kerry? George Bush? Donald Trump? John Kennedy? Mitt Romney? Mike Braun?

Of course there are rich people in DC but none of those people have control or authority over the things he is crying about in the song. They didn’t set his wages in the factory or turn him into a shithead punching down at people on welfare. They didn’t make him quit high school and “learn” dumb stereotypes from 4chan or wherever he got his self-pity fix and old stereotypes. Good for him that he has found success. He can pay more taxes and write more songs about how unfair that is.

If you're going to pretend that congressmen, senators, and presidents ("DC") don't have power and don't make decisions that affect us all, then you'll have to find someone else to try to convince. I'm too old and have been around too long to believe your nonsense.

The guy dropped out of high school and did drop-out things and had drop-out jobs and was a substance abuser living in a camper. Nancy Pelosi didn’t do any of that to him. He did it.

Now he’s found the magic formula - punch down at poor people on welfare and food stamps and whine about paying taxes and other imaginary grievances. It’s just indulgent self-pity disguised as a political statement.

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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how many people want to deny a man's lived experience. You need to hear and understand his voice. And maybe you'll reveal something about your own biases.

I totally understand his experience. Being hard working and poor is the experience shared by both left and right. Poor people should unite and overthrow the rich and ruling class, be it democratic or republican. It is a false narrative that this anger only comes from the right, against the left.

The song isn’t about his experiences. It’s about stereotypes and imaginary grievances. No rich men from the North or welfare queens persecuted this guy. He’s a simple small-town Virginia guy who has lived the simple small-town life he chose for himself. The song is popular because millions of people want to believe that they are being persecuted if the whole world isn’t kissing their asses every day. They actually have fewer obstacles in life than at any time in history.

Based on your assessment of his situation, it seems that you think life is about choices. Do you apply that line of thinking to everyone's circumstances or just certain groups of people?

Nobody discriminated or segregated or did anything to limit his opportunities. Nobody forced him to drop out of school. He has lived the life he chose. Now he has a successful music career using the old Southern formula of blaming all his struggles on Yankees and welfare queens.

Once again... he is not blaming "Yankees>" The "Rich men north of Richmond" was a reference to politicians in DC. Not "Yankees" in general.

No one has ever referred to DC or the federal government as “rich men north of Richmond.” Never. It’s a neo-Confederate reference. It doesn’t make sense as anything else.

The guy obviously likes word play--in this case between "rich men" and "Richmond."

See also " the use of "miners" and "minors" in the lyrics.

The “rich men” word play still doesn’t fit DC or the government. Call us bureaucratic, call us woke, but DC is not about rich men controlling everything. Rich men probably have less clout in DC than in any other city or state in the country.

Oh, please. Like Dianne Feinstein? Nancy Pelosi? John Kerry? George Bush? Donald Trump? John Kennedy? Mitt Romney? Mike Braun?

Those who reside and work in DCUM land are some of the wealthiest Americans in the nation. The average American does not make anywhere near $200,000 per year. Many get by on $30,000 per year.

And most of us who work in government spend our time trying to make things better in this country while dipshit Governors and state legislatures spend their time laundering the federal money through their crony patronage networks and obstructing any progress or assistance from reaching the people in their states who need help.

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Anonymous wrote:He didn’t intend it to send a divisive message, in fact, the opposite. He’s apolitical, thinks the media is divisive, wants people to see what’s common between them. It will be unfortunate if it’s used as a political tool. That isn’t his intention.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNqvfMrYdNo

He wants people to see what’s common between them by dividing the north from the south? He thinks that echoing the divides of the civil war is the best way to be apolitical? He must be pretty dumb or you are completely wrong about his motives.

How in the hell did he divide the north and the south?

What part of "North of Richmond" did you miss? Did you actually even bother to listen to and think about any of the lyrics? Seems glaring that you haven't.

Dear Lord. You are totally misunderstanding the title and the lyrics.

"Rich men north of Richmond" is a creative way to refer to the politicians in DC.... a city north of Richmond.
He is not dividing the north and south.

He just happened to choose Richmond, the capital city of the Confederacy by complete chance! Then he just stumbled his way into using “North” as a key descriptor! Nothing at all about the civil war or north/south division!

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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how many people want to deny a man's lived experience. You need to hear and understand his voice. And maybe you'll reveal something about your own biases.

I totally understand his experience. Being hard working and poor is the experience shared by both left and right. Poor people should unite and overthrow the rich and ruling class, be it democratic or republican. It is a false narrative that this anger only comes from the right, against the left.

The song isn’t about his experiences. It’s about stereotypes and imaginary grievances. No rich men from the North or welfare queens persecuted this guy. He’s a simple small-town Virginia guy who has lived the simple small-town life he chose for himself. The song is popular because millions of people want to believe that they are being persecuted if the whole world isn’t kissing their asses every day. They actually have fewer obstacles in life than at any time in history.

Based on your assessment of his situation, it seems that you think life is about choices. Do you apply that line of thinking to everyone's circumstances or just certain groups of people?

Nobody discriminated or segregated or did anything to limit his opportunities. Nobody forced him to drop out of school. He has lived the life he chose. Now he has a successful music career using the old Southern formula of blaming all his struggles on Yankees and welfare queens.

Once again... he is not blaming "Yankees>" The "Rich men north of Richmond" was a reference to politicians in DC. Not "Yankees" in general.

No one has ever referred to DC or the federal government as “rich men north of Richmond.” Never. It’s a neo-Confederate reference. It doesn’t make sense as anything else.

The guy obviously likes word play--in this case between "rich men" and "Richmond."

See also " the use of "miners" and "minors" in the lyrics.

The “rich men” word play still doesn’t fit DC or the government. Call us bureaucratic, call us woke, but DC is not about rich men controlling everything. Rich men probably have less clout in DC than in any other city or state in the country.

Oh, please. Like Dianne Feinstein? Nancy Pelosi? John Kerry? George Bush? Donald Trump? John Kennedy? Mitt Romney? Mike Braun?

Those who reside and work in DCUM land are some of the wealthiest Americans in the nation. The average American does not make anywhere near $200,000 per year. Many get by on $30,000 per year.

Exactly. It's why so many of the posters here have completely lost touch (if they ever did) with the average working person.

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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how many people want to deny a man's lived experience. You need to hear and understand his voice. And maybe you'll reveal something about your own biases.

I totally understand his experience. Being hard working and poor is the experience shared by both left and right. Poor people should unite and overthrow the rich and ruling class, be it democratic or republican. It is a false narrative that this anger only comes from the right, against the left.

The song isn’t about his experiences. It’s about stereotypes and imaginary grievances. No rich men from the North or welfare queens persecuted this guy. He’s a simple small-town Virginia guy who has lived the simple small-town life he chose for himself. The song is popular because millions of people want to believe that they are being persecuted if the whole world isn’t kissing their asses every day. They actually have fewer obstacles in life than at any time in history.

Based on your assessment of his situation, it seems that you think life is about choices. Do you apply that line of thinking to everyone's circumstances or just certain groups of people?

Nobody discriminated or segregated or did anything to limit his opportunities. Nobody forced him to drop out of school. He has lived the life he chose. Now he has a successful music career using the old Southern formula of blaming all his struggles on Yankees and welfare queens.

Once again... he is not blaming "Yankees>" The "Rich men north of Richmond" was a reference to politicians in DC. Not "Yankees" in general.

No one has ever referred to DC or the federal government as “rich men north of Richmond.” Never. It’s a neo-Confederate reference. It doesn’t make sense as anything else.

The guy obviously likes word play--in this case between "rich men" and "Richmond."

See also " the use of "miners" and "minors" in the lyrics.

The “rich men” word play still doesn’t fit DC or the government. Call us bureaucratic, call us woke, but DC is not about rich men controlling everything. Rich men probably have less clout in DC than in any other city or state in the country.

Oh, please. Like Dianne Feinstein? Nancy Pelosi? John Kerry? George Bush? Donald Trump? John Kennedy? Mitt Romney? Mike Braun?

Those who reside and work in DCUM land are some of the wealthiest Americans in the nation. The average American does not make anywhere near $200,000 per year. Many get by on $30,000 per year.

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Anonymous wrote:He didn’t intend it to send a divisive message, in fact, the opposite. He’s apolitical, thinks the media is divisive, wants people to see what’s common between them. It will be unfortunate if it’s used as a political tool. That isn’t his intention.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNqvfMrYdNo

He wants people to see what’s common between them by dividing the north from the south? He thinks that echoing the divides of the civil war is the best way to be apolitical? He must be pretty dumb or you are completely wrong about his motives.

How in the hell did he divide the north and the south?

What part of "North of Richmond" did you miss? Did you actually even bother to listen to and think about any of the lyrics? Seems glaring that you haven't.

Dear Lord. You are totally misunderstanding the title and the lyrics.

"Rich men north of Richmond" is a creative way to refer to the politicians in DC.... a city north of Richmond.
He is not dividing the north and south.

NP born and raised in RVA (which is relevant). In Richmond, and in other parts of the state, they don’t like people from NOVA coming down to the general assembly and acting as if their votes matter more, they deserve more of the tax money, etc. There is an us vs them. There is a NOVA vs ROVA (and I hate that term, but it’s been used many times on these forums before, in derogatory ways to describe all the Virginians that live outside of NOVA as if we can be lumped into one “other” pile.

So the writer/singer is from Farmville. I imagine he grew up hearing similar sentiment that people from NOVA think they’re better and smarter than us and look down on everyone else not from NOVA. That the delegates and state senators from NOVA are entitled when they come down to Richmond. So all of those people NORTH of Richmond (probably really north of Fredericksburg) are snobs and we are tired of them trying to tell us what to do because in fact they’re not smarter or better.

That’s it. It’s pretty simple.

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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how many people want to deny a man's lived experience. You need to hear and understand his voice. And maybe you'll reveal something about your own biases.

I totally understand his experience. Being hard working and poor is the experience shared by both left and right. Poor people should unite and overthrow the rich and ruling class, be it democratic or republican. It is a false narrative that this anger only comes from the right, against the left.

The song isn’t about his experiences. It’s about stereotypes and imaginary grievances. No rich men from the North or welfare queens persecuted this guy. He’s a simple small-town Virginia guy who has lived the simple small-town life he chose for himself. The song is popular because millions of people want to believe that they are being persecuted if the whole world isn’t kissing their asses every day. They actually have fewer obstacles in life than at any time in history.

Based on your assessment of his situation, it seems that you think life is about choices. Do you apply that line of thinking to everyone's circumstances or just certain groups of people?

Nobody discriminated or segregated or did anything to limit his opportunities. Nobody forced him to drop out of school. He has lived the life he chose. Now he has a successful music career using the old Southern formula of blaming all his struggles on Yankees and welfare queens.

Once again... he is not blaming "Yankees>" The "Rich men north of Richmond" was a reference to politicians in DC. Not "Yankees" in general.

No one has ever referred to DC or the federal government as “rich men north of Richmond.” Never. It’s a neo-Confederate reference. It doesn’t make sense as anything else.

The guy obviously likes word play--in this case between "rich men" and "Richmond."

See also " the use of "miners" and "minors" in the lyrics.

The “rich men” word play still doesn’t fit DC or the government. Call us bureaucratic, call us woke, but DC is not about rich men controlling everything. Rich men probably have less clout in DC than in any other city or state in the country.

Oh, please. Like Dianne Feinstein? Nancy Pelosi? John Kerry? George Bush? Donald Trump? John Kennedy? Mitt Romney? Mike Braun?

Of course there are rich people in DC but none of those people have control or authority over the things he is crying about in the song. They didn’t set his wages in the factory or turn him into a shithead punching down at people on welfare. They didn’t make him quit high school and “learn” dumb stereotypes from 4chan or wherever he got his self-pity fix and old stereotypes. Good for him that he has found success. He can pay more taxes and write more songs about how unfair that is.

If you're going to pretend that congressmen, senators, and presidents ("DC") don't have power and don't make decisions that affect us all, then you'll have to find someone else to try to convince. I'm too old and have been around too long to believe your nonsense.

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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how many people want to deny a man's lived experience. You need to hear and understand his voice. And maybe you'll reveal something about your own biases.

I totally understand his experience. Being hard working and poor is the experience shared by both left and right. Poor people should unite and overthrow the rich and ruling class, be it democratic or republican. It is a false narrative that this anger only comes from the right, against the left.

The song isn’t about his experiences. It’s about stereotypes and imaginary grievances. No rich men from the North or welfare queens persecuted this guy. He’s a simple small-town Virginia guy who has lived the simple small-town life he chose for himself. The song is popular because millions of people want to believe that they are being persecuted if the whole world isn’t kissing their asses every day. They actually have fewer obstacles in life than at any time in history.

Based on your assessment of his situation, it seems that you think life is about choices. Do you apply that line of thinking to everyone's circumstances or just certain groups of people?

Nobody discriminated or segregated or did anything to limit his opportunities. Nobody forced him to drop out of school. He has lived the life he chose. Now he has a successful music career using the old Southern formula of blaming all his struggles on Yankees and welfare queens.

Once again... he is not blaming "Yankees>" The "Rich men north of Richmond" was a reference to politicians in DC. Not "Yankees" in general.

No one has ever referred to DC or the federal government as “rich men north of Richmond.” Never. It’s a neo-Confederate reference. It doesn’t make sense as anything else.

The guy obviously likes word play--in this case between "rich men" and "Richmond."

See also " the use of "miners" and "minors" in the lyrics.

The “rich men” word play still doesn’t fit DC or the government. Call us bureaucratic, call us woke, but DC is not about rich men controlling everything. Rich men probably have less clout in DC than in any other city or state in the country.

Oh, please. Like Dianne Feinstein? Nancy Pelosi? John Kerry? George Bush? Donald Trump? John Kennedy? Mitt Romney? Mike Braun?

Those who reside and work in DCUM land are some of the wealthiest Americans in the nation. The average American does not make anywhere near $200,000 per year. Many get by on $30,000 per year.

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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how many people want to deny a man's lived experience. You need to hear and understand his voice. And maybe you'll reveal something about your own biases.

I totally understand his experience. Being hard working and poor is the experience shared by both left and right. Poor people should unite and overthrow the rich and ruling class, be it democratic or republican. It is a false narrative that this anger only comes from the right, against the left.

The song isn’t about his experiences. It’s about stereotypes and imaginary grievances. No rich men from the North or welfare queens persecuted this guy. He’s a simple small-town Virginia guy who has lived the simple small-town life he chose for himself. The song is popular because millions of people want to believe that they are being persecuted if the whole world isn’t kissing their asses every day. They actually have fewer obstacles in life than at any time in history.

Based on your assessment of his situation, it seems that you think life is about choices. Do you apply that line of thinking to everyone's circumstances or just certain groups of people?

Nobody discriminated or segregated or did anything to limit his opportunities. Nobody forced him to drop out of school. He has lived the life he chose. Now he has a successful music career using the old Southern formula of blaming all his struggles on Yankees and welfare queens.

Once again... he is not blaming "Yankees>" The "Rich men north of Richmond" was a reference to politicians in DC. Not "Yankees" in general.

No one has ever referred to DC or the federal government as “rich men north of Richmond.” Never. It’s a neo-Confederate reference. It doesn’t make sense as anything else.

The guy obviously likes word play--in this case between "rich men" and "Richmond."

See also " the use of "miners" and "minors" in the lyrics.

The “rich men” word play still doesn’t fit DC or the government. Call us bureaucratic, call us woke, but DC is not about rich men controlling everything. Rich men probably have less clout in DC than in any other city or state in the country.

Oh, please. Like Dianne Feinstein? Nancy Pelosi? John Kerry? George Bush? Donald Trump? John Kennedy? Mitt Romney? Mike Braun?

Anonymous wrote:Listen to this song and pay attention to the lyrics. By total coincidence, this guy was performing at a produce stand just on the mainland side of the Outer Banks yesterday (Morriss, if you know the area) as our group stopped for our week's provisions.

I have to say it was almost.... a little bit scary. It honestly felt like the beginning of something. Like a call to arms. These people felt this song in their hearts. I've been to rallys all my life as a DC native but this was something else. At one point a good chunk of the crowd was chanting "Secede! Secede! Secede!"

I have since googled the guy and it seems he is some sort of cult hero to the far right.

I don't know if something is coming but the whispers aren't so quiet.

https://www.google.com/search?q=rich+men+richomd+lyrics&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS895US895&oq=ri&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i57j69i60j69i61l2.1379j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:2346f2b7,vid:uqdJsRWN1Y4

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Anonymous wrote:He didn’t intend it to send a divisive message, in fact, the opposite. He’s apolitical, thinks the media is divisive, wants people to see what’s common between them. It will be unfortunate if it’s used as a political tool. That isn’t his intention.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNqvfMrYdNo

He wants people to see what’s common between them by dividing the north from the south? He thinks that echoing the divides of the civil war is the best way to be apolitical? He must be pretty dumb or you are completely wrong about his motives.

How in the hell did he divide the north and the south?

What part of "North of Richmond" did you miss? Did you actually even bother to listen to and think about any of the lyrics? Seems glaring that you haven't.

Dear Lord. You are totally misunderstanding the title and the lyrics.

"Rich men north of Richmond" is a creative way to refer to the politicians in DC.... a city north of Richmond.
He is not dividing the north and south.

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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how many people want to deny a man's lived experience. You need to hear and understand his voice. And maybe you'll reveal something about your own biases.

I totally understand his experience. Being hard working and poor is the experience shared by both left and right. Poor people should unite and overthrow the rich and ruling class, be it democratic or republican. It is a false narrative that this anger only comes from the right, against the left.

The song isn’t about his experiences. It’s about stereotypes and imaginary grievances. No rich men from the North or welfare queens persecuted this guy. He’s a simple small-town Virginia guy who has lived the simple small-town life he chose for himself. The song is popular because millions of people want to believe that they are being persecuted if the whole world isn’t kissing their asses every day. They actually have fewer obstacles in life than at any time in history.

Based on your assessment of his situation, it seems that you think life is about choices. Do you apply that line of thinking to everyone's circumstances or just certain groups of people?

Nobody discriminated or segregated or did anything to limit his opportunities. Nobody forced him to drop out of school. He has lived the life he chose. Now he has a successful music career using the old Southern formula of blaming all his struggles on Yankees and welfare queens.

Once again... he is not blaming "Yankees>" The "Rich men north of Richmond" was a reference to politicians in DC. Not "Yankees" in general.

No one has ever referred to DC or the federal government as “rich men north of Richmond.” Never. It’s a neo-Confederate reference. It doesn’t make sense as anything else.

The guy obviously likes word play--in this case between "rich men" and "Richmond."

See also " the use of "miners" and "minors" in the lyrics.

The “rich men” word play still doesn’t fit DC or the government. Call us bureaucratic, call us woke, but DC is not about rich men controlling everything. Rich men probably have less clout in DC than in any other city or state in the country.

Oh, please. Like Dianne Feinstein? Nancy Pelosi? John Kerry? George Bush? Donald Trump? John Kennedy? Mitt Romney? Mike Braun?

Of course there are rich people in DC but none of those people have control or authority over the things he is crying about in the song. They didn’t set his wages in the factory or turn him into a shithead punching down at people on welfare. They didn’t make him quit high school and “learn” dumb stereotypes from 4chan or wherever he got his self-pity fix and old stereotypes. Good for him that he has found success. He can pay more taxes and write more songs about how unfair that is.

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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how many people want to deny a man's lived experience. You need to hear and understand his voice. And maybe you'll reveal something about your own biases.

I totally understand his experience. Being hard working and poor is the experience shared by both left and right. Poor people should unite and overthrow the rich and ruling class, be it democratic or republican. It is a false narrative that this anger only comes from the right, against the left.

The song isn’t about his experiences. It’s about stereotypes and imaginary grievances. No rich men from the North or welfare queens persecuted this guy. He’s a simple small-town Virginia guy who has lived the simple small-town life he chose for himself. The song is popular because millions of people want to believe that they are being persecuted if the whole world isn’t kissing their asses every day. They actually have fewer obstacles in life than at any time in history.

Based on your assessment of his situation, it seems that you think life is about choices. Do you apply that line of thinking to everyone's circumstances or just certain groups of people?

Nobody discriminated or segregated or did anything to limit his opportunities. Nobody forced him to drop out of school. He has lived the life he chose. Now he has a successful music career using the old Southern formula of blaming all his struggles on Yankees and welfare queens.

Once again... he is not blaming "Yankees>" The "Rich men north of Richmond" was a reference to politicians in DC. Not "Yankees" in general.

No one has ever referred to DC or the federal government as “rich men north of Richmond.” Never. It’s a neo-Confederate reference. It doesn’t make sense as anything else.

The guy obviously likes word play--in this case between "rich men" and "Richmond."

See also " the use of "miners" and "minors" in the lyrics.

The “rich men” word play still doesn’t fit DC or the government. Call us bureaucratic, call us woke, but DC is not about rich men controlling everything. Rich men probably have less clout in DC than in any other city or state in the country.

Oh, please. Like Dianne Feinstein? Nancy Pelosi? John Kerry? George Bush? Donald Trump? John Kennedy? Mitt Romney? Mike Braun?