Anonymous
05/03/2022 11:47
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Yes, that draft. The whole point of which was to get us talking about who leaked it, instead of what it actually says.
I wonder if Roberts is actually being clever. I don't believe he wants RVW overturned. I bet he likes the leak because people will be in an uproar and maybe this will mean the repeal doesn't go through. He has now validated that the leaked document is real, and looks like a good guy for launching his "investigation". If they said nothing the narrative could have been pushed that it's a fake.
Maybe this leak will prompt other actions like a federal women's protection law. This leak will light a fire under many buts.
He doesn’t look like a good guy for investigating this, he looks like a partisan hack who didn’t care that
- two seats were stolen from Democrats
- something hinky as hell happened to Kennedy to resign and get the Boofer on the court
- the three above justice perjured themselves
- Clarence Thomas may have been involved in the 1/6 coup and absolutely suffers from conflicts of interest that should see him off the court
In short Roberts is a moron. I hope those of you who are friends with that corrupt POS let him know what the world thinks of him.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 11:46
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Question for those who know:
would the liberal justices or their staff even have access to a draft being crafted by the majority to which they are not a party?
This doesn't seem likely to me.
Yes they would. Dissents pretty much always reference the majority opinion.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 11:46
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Question for those who know:
would the liberal justices or their staff even have access to a draft being crafted by the majority to which they are not a party?
This doesn't seem likely to me.
Yes, they all do.
Anonymous
Anonymous
05/03/2022 11:45
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So Alito wants to bring back maternity homes where unwed teens are forced to give birth and then their healthy white babies will be redistributed to “good” families. You know, since he cited the increased desire for adoption as part of the reasoning that unwinding this decision wouldn’t place an undue burden on women by forcing them to maintain pregnancy and give birth against their wishes. We’re nothing more than vessels/incubators to him. Not actually humans, with equal rights under the law to have control of our own bodies and health. This would never be an issue if men were the ones who became pregnant. Never.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. If you want to force birth then you also should be champing full health care for pregnant women as well as at least 6 weeks paid maternity leave. Who goes up further and demand reasonable rates of child care so people can actually go back to work. You know and not be a drain on society that they all hate
And that they aren’t is the tell. They don’t actually want the women forced to endure unwanted pregnancies to keep the babies, since they are dirty whores anyway. They want the babies redistributed to “good” Christian families. Like the kids they kidnapped at the border.
"Pro-life" is such a joke. They are against unsanctioned sex, full stop.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 11:45
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous
05/03/2022 11:45
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:
Susan Collins, just now: Gorsuch and Kavanaugh lied to me!
Nooooo, Susan, really?
Told you so. What are you going to do about it, sister?
Exactly. This is on her. She better fix it.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 11:45
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Question for those who know:
would the liberal justices or their staff even have access to a draft being crafted by the majority to which they are not a party?
This doesn't seem likely to me.
would the liberal justices or their staff even have access to a draft being crafted by the majority to which they are not a party?
This doesn't seem likely to me.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 11:44
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And no way to leave a comment online or on the phone to that scuzz bucket Roberts. No one gives a hoot about the leak, you moron. You’re presiding over an illegitimate joke of a court.
You are so, so wrong.
Oh, I’m sorry. RWNJs who didn’t care about any of the horrific things Trump did - like put on two justices when he lost the vote and convince a third judge to retire so he could fill a third seat - are currently pretending this is bad.
No one decent cares about the leak. There. Fixed for clarity!
You know what I find totally disgusting?
When you are dissatisfied with a decision of the court, you immediately begin to impugn the integrity of any Justice who does not vote the way you want.
Sorry, Skippy. All of the Justices on the court were legitimately nominated and voted into power.
And, if you want to talk about a Justice being "convinced" to retire.... shall we talk about Justice Breyer?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/01/29/inside-campaign-pressure-justice-stephen-breyer-retire/
You don't find it concerning that 3 justices swore under oath during their confirmation hearings that Roe v Wade was settled precedence and have now flipped?
Of course they don’t! They want their theocracy! They want their christo-fascist state. They want women barefoot and pregnant - or not, as the man in their life chooses. They want an enormous class of poor brown people who will become de facto (or actual) slaves. They want a massive class of poor white people to act as an enforcing army holding down the slaves. They want those icky gay people back in the closet.
Notice that noooooone of the leak whiners cares that three justices commit perjury in their hearings.
+1
F the PP whining about “integrity” but DGAF about 3 justices who lied to Congress. And another consorting with extremists trying to overthrow our government.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 11:44
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Susan Collins, just now: Gorsuch and Kavanaugh lied to me!
Nooooo, Susan, really?
Told you so. What are you going to do about it, sister?
Anonymous
05/03/2022 11:44
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Yes. That opinion. (Why do you think your overstatement is helpful? Who do you think it is helpful for?)
For emotionally-charged people like you who are inappropriately drawing sweeping conclusions without proper context or the facts.
Hon. [sweeps at the thousands of forced birth laws enacted in the last ten years] HON.
It is YOU who lacks context and facts. What you’re doing is gaslighting us. Or maybe yourself. But you’re not the level headed, above the fray thinker you think you are; you’re just pig ignorant.
Keep up the unfounded rhetoric and name calling. You're simply proving the point made above.
Anonymous
Anonymous
05/03/2022 11:44
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's time for a federal law protecting women's rights, not a Supreme Court decision. Roe was poorly written and poorly reasoned.
I don't mind constitutional Supreme Court justices. I'm pro-choice. I'm pro a real change that really protects women and a court decision isn't it. We need a federal law.
I say, yes, get rid of Roe v Wade and Gert something real on the books.
Getting rid of Roe before you have a congress that will vote something like that into law is going to harm women.
And if it's just a federal law then it will change the next time a GOP congress comes in. They will repeal it. So we'll have back and forth, back and forth, just like with the money that is given and then taken away to foreign aid organizations that hand out info about or help poor women get abortions.
While I am pro-choice, I don't believe that abortion was contemplated in the Constitution. The Roe decision does not flesh that out or make any kind of realistic argument in support. This women's right does not rest with the Supreme Court, unfortunately. We've just had justices willing to buffalo it along. I've been okay with that because I agree with the end result, I suppose. However, the Justices are not wrong with their reasoning here in this draft.
As a nation, we are stuck. I don't want a patchwork of laws throughout the country. I want women's rights to be protected and for women to have the choice uniformly. But, it does appear that the power does not rest at the federal level. It does rest at the state level.
It could rest at the state level, if Republicans were decent people. But they’re not and it shouldn’t. Forcing birth is in a sense compelled labor, slavery if you will. You sure you want to say that’s just “states rights”?
Anonymous
05/03/2022 11:43
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:
Yes, that draft. The whole point of which was to get us talking about who leaked it, instead of what it actually says.
I wonder if Roberts is actually being clever. I don't believe he wants RVW overturned. I bet he likes the leak because people will be in an uproar and maybe this will mean the repeal doesn't go through. He has now validated that the leaked document is real, and looks like a good guy for launching his "investigation". If they said nothing the narrative could have been pushed that it's a fake.
Maybe this leak will prompt other actions like a federal women's protection law. This leak will light a fire under many buts.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 11:43
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:
As Fawn Hill once said regarding Iran Gate, "Sometimes you have to go above the law.". Whoever leaked deserves the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
I appreciate the heads up that the GOP finally feels safe flying their fascism flag, but let’s wait and make sure that this wasn’t leaked by a right winger trying to make this even worse.