Anonymous
Post 10/31/2021 12:44     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

Anonymous wrote:I am surprised people think that if Youngkin is elected Virginia will suddenly turn into Texas if Roe v Wade is overturned and outlaw abortion. The average Virginian is pretty moderate (socially liberal leaning and fiscally conservative leaning). They might be anti-abortion for their own choices but they’re not ones to tell others what to do or impose their personal beliefs on someone else and are pro-choice for others.

I do not see the majority of Virginians finding pro-life measures and outlawing abortion to be a priority and in fact most will find it too overreaching and indecent. They will not support this in the numbers you suggest, not at all.

I have lived in Virginia all my life all over the commonwealth. Virginians aren’t known to be extreme on either end. So this knee jerk reaction that Virginians are chomping at the bit and just waiting for Youngkin to get elected so abortion can be banned is offensive. First there would have to be a law on his desk to sign. I don’t think it will get to that point, not anytime soon.

So stop painting Virginians as extreme right pro life marching single issue voter crazy trains. We’re not.


The GOP doesn't seem to realize that.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2021 12:43     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

Anonymous wrote:I am surprised people think that if Youngkin is elected Virginia will suddenly turn into Texas if Roe v Wade is overturned and outlaw abortion. The average Virginian is pretty moderate (socially liberal leaning and fiscally conservative leaning). They might be anti-abortion for their own choices but they’re not ones to tell others what to do or impose their personal beliefs on someone else and are pro-choice for others.

I do not see the majority of Virginians finding pro-life measures and outlawing abortion to be a priority and in fact most will find it too overreaching and indecent. They will not support this in the numbers you suggest, not at all.

I have lived in Virginia all my life all over the commonwealth. Virginians aren’t known to be extreme on either end. So this knee jerk reaction that Virginians are chomping at the bit and just waiting for Youngkin to get elected so abortion can be banned is offensive. First there would have to be a law on his desk to sign. I don’t think it will get to that point, not anytime soon.

So stop painting Virginians as extreme right pro life marching single issue voter crazy trains. We’re not.


It's a scare tactic. And, it's all they've got.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2021 12:43     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

Anonymous wrote:I was very tempted to vote Youngkin because I haven't been happy about how covid has been handled with the schools, but the book banning and hostility towards teaching accurate US history led me to reluctantly vote for McAuliffe. The recent story in the NYT about republicans demanding a book with an interracial couple get pulled from the library was the last straw.


I mean, remember when conservatives tried to cancel Dr. Seuss?
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2021 12:43     Subject: Re:Consolidated VA Elections Thread

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Anonymous wrote:I see a lot of Dems here stating they are voting R for Youngkin for the first time. Question, just curious - are you voting a straight R ticket or splitting the ticket?


Straight R. I’m just not on board with democrats move towards extreme progressivism. Sending a message that they need to scoot back towards reason. Youngkin is a pretty bland guy who will be a middle of the road bureaucrat anyway.


I will vote Youngkin and Miyares (can't vote for Herring due to the rise of crime in my neighborhood and his connection to Paradigma). I am still on the fence as to Sears/ Ayala. I love Ayala personally, but also want to see a black women in the office.


Do more research on Sears. She is truly impressive. I heard her speak yeaterday and am just blown away by her strangth, energy and character.

She is an immigrant from Jamaica, naturalized citizen, marine, business woman and owner, only AA female R elected to the state legislature (might be the first AA female State legislature elected in either party but you would need to fact check that.)

She is a mother and has dealt with the grief of losing her daughter and granddaughters in a car accident.

She is strong, compassionate and very well informed in bothe business and politics in Virginia.

Her credentials are impressive. So is her character.

After hearing her speam, I believe she could one day be president.


How do you figure this would happen if she is an 'immigrant from Jamaica'?
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2021 12:41     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

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Anonymous wrote:Equity: You cancel advanced math because all groups aren’t doing equally well in it

Equality: you have advanced math and allow anyone in who is capable of taking it regardless of identity politics.


Strawman.

VA isn’t “canceling” advanced math.



I was giving a dumbed down example for the sake of brevity, but we all know what’s happening with TJ.


Providing access to TJ to a broader group of capable kids isn’t “canceling advanced math”.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2021 12:38     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Equity: You cancel advanced math because all groups aren’t doing equally well in it

Equality: you have advanced math and allow anyone in who is capable of taking it regardless of identity politics.


Strawman.

VA isn’t “canceling” advanced math.



I was giving a dumbed down example for the sake of brevity, but we all know what’s happening with TJ.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2021 12:37     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

I am surprised people think that if Youngkin is elected Virginia will suddenly turn into Texas if Roe v Wade is overturned and outlaw abortion. The average Virginian is pretty moderate (socially liberal leaning and fiscally conservative leaning). They might be anti-abortion for their own choices but they’re not ones to tell others what to do or impose their personal beliefs on someone else and are pro-choice for others.

I do not see the majority of Virginians finding pro-life measures and outlawing abortion to be a priority and in fact most will find it too overreaching and indecent. They will not support this in the numbers you suggest, not at all.

I have lived in Virginia all my life all over the commonwealth. Virginians aren’t known to be extreme on either end. So this knee jerk reaction that Virginians are chomping at the bit and just waiting for Youngkin to get elected so abortion can be banned is offensive. First there would have to be a law on his desk to sign. I don’t think it will get to that point, not anytime soon.

So stop painting Virginians as extreme right pro life marching single issue voter crazy trains. We’re not.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2021 12:36     Subject: Re:Consolidated VA Elections Thread

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Anonymous wrote:I see a lot of Dems here stating they are voting R for Youngkin for the first time. Question, just curious - are you voting a straight R ticket or splitting the ticket?


Straight R. I’m just not on board with democrats move towards extreme progressivism. Sending a message that they need to scoot back towards reason. Youngkin is a pretty bland guy who will be a middle of the road bureaucrat anyway.


I will vote Youngkin and Miyares (can't vote for Herring due to the rise of crime in my neighborhood and his connection to Paradigma). I am still on the fence as to Sears/ Ayala. I love Ayala personally, but also want to see a black women in the office.


Do more research on Sears. She is truly impressive. I heard her speak yeaterday and am just blown away by her strangth, energy and character.

She is an immigrant from Jamaica, naturalized citizen, marine, business woman and owner, only AA female R elected to the state legislature (might be the first AA female State legislature elected in either party but you would need to fact check that.)

She is a mother and has dealt with the grief of losing her daughter and granddaughters in a car accident.

She is strong, compassionate and very well informed in bothe business and politics in Virginia.

Her credentials are impressive. So is her character.

After hearing her speam, I believe she could one day be president.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2021 12:36     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

^ all people in the US
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2021 12:35     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

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Anonymous wrote:Very interesting poll release today from Tommy Schultz:
POLL

Q: "How much influence do you think parents of K-12 students should have over what schools teach?"

A: "Most or some":
Asian: 70%
Black: 67%
Hispanic: 67%
White: 75%
Suburban Women: 69%

A: "Not really":
Asian: 21%
Black: 22%
Hispanic: 27%
White: 19%
Suburban Women: 20%


Gee, that’s totally not a leading-question, is it?

Garbage poll. Worthless.


Actually, this poll is explaining the state of Virginia right now. Education is the #1 issue for most of the electorate.


No, it’s the #1 issue for racists and fascists.

The rest of Virginia cares about REAL issues: climate change, equal rights for all genders, women’s health, immigrant rights, ending the culture of police violence, getting rid of guns, and righting all the wrongs of the past brought to us by white men like Youngkin.


I’d say education is very much a women’s issue. Closing schools unnecessarily cost many women their jobs and untold others their sanity.


The pandemic was detrimental to many, especially women.

That doesn’t mean you vote for the anti-woman candidate. WTAF?


DP. "Anti-woman candidate"? You're going to have to provide actual links for that absurd claim, doofus.




“The American Independent” is the left-wing group that posted the video. What a laugh, using “independent” in their name, hoping to fool people into thinking they’re actually independent. Here’s what Media Bias/FactCheck has to say:

LEFT BIAS

These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage liberal causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy.


Are you denying that this is Youngkin?



People who believe that being against abortion means being against women are just ridiculous.
I am a woman who is very much opposed to abortion. I am not anti-woman. I am pro-child.


You don’t think women should have bodily autonomy. That is a basic human right. That is about the most anti-woman you can be.


Sure, they should have bodily autonomy. But, this is not about the woman's body. It is about the body of the baby who isn't given a choice.
And, if you think women should have bodily autonomy when it comes to abortion, I am certain you believe EVERYONE - men and women - should be given bodily autonomy when it comes to vaccines. Right?
So, you are surely against vaccine mandates, right?


Agree. The government should not mandate that all people in the get vaccinated. That hasn’t happened.

And it’s absolutely 100% about the women’s body. For you think otherwise shows just how anti-woman you are.

Anonymous
Post 10/31/2021 12:35     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

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Hey, friend. You either believe in bodily autonomy or you don't. I do.
I am against vaccine mandates and I am against abortion because it violates the body of a baby. It is really that simple.


Do you get the sense that most anti abortionists are also pro-vaccine mandate?
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2021 12:32     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

Anonymous wrote:Equity: You cancel advanced math because all groups aren’t doing equally well in it

Equality: you have advanced math and allow anyone in who is capable of taking it regardless of identity politics.


Strawman.

VA isn’t “canceling” advanced math.

Anonymous
Post 10/31/2021 12:32     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

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Anonymous wrote:Very interesting poll release today from Tommy Schultz:
POLL

Q: "How much influence do you think parents of K-12 students should have over what schools teach?"

A: "Most or some":
Asian: 70%
Black: 67%
Hispanic: 67%
White: 75%
Suburban Women: 69%

A: "Not really":
Asian: 21%
Black: 22%
Hispanic: 27%
White: 19%
Suburban Women: 20%


Gee, that’s totally not a leading-question, is it?

Garbage poll. Worthless.


Actually, this poll is explaining the state of Virginia right now. Education is the #1 issue for most of the electorate.


No, it’s the #1 issue for racists and fascists.

The rest of Virginia cares about REAL issues: climate change, equal rights for all genders, women’s health, immigrant rights, ending the culture of police violence, getting rid of guns, and righting all the wrongs of the past brought to us by white men like Youngkin.


I’d say education is very much a women’s issue. Closing schools unnecessarily cost many women their jobs and untold others their sanity.


The pandemic was detrimental to many, especially women.

That doesn’t mean you vote for the anti-woman candidate. WTAF?


DP. "Anti-woman candidate"? You're going to have to provide actual links for that absurd claim, doofus.




“The American Independent” is the left-wing group that posted the video. What a laugh, using “independent” in their name, hoping to fool people into thinking they’re actually independent. Here’s what Media Bias/FactCheck has to say:

LEFT BIAS

These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage liberal causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy.


Are you denying that this is Youngkin?



People who believe that being against abortion means being against women are just ridiculous.
I am a woman who is very much opposed to abortion. I am not anti-woman. I am pro-child.


You don’t think women should have bodily autonomy. That is a basic human right. That is about the most anti-woman you can be.


Sure, they should have bodily autonomy. But, this is not about the woman's body. It is about the body of the baby who isn't given a choice.
And, if you think women should have bodily autonomy when it comes to abortion, I am certain you believe EVERYONE - men and women - should be given bodily autonomy when it comes to vaccines. Right?
So, you are surely against vaccine mandates, right?


You don't really think those are equivalent, do you? Find a better argument. Surely you can.


Hey, friend. You either believe in bodily autonomy or you don't. I do.
I am against vaccine mandates and I am against abortion because it violates the body of a baby. It is really that simple.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2021 12:30     Subject: Re:Consolidated VA Elections Thread

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Anonymous wrote:I see a lot of Dems here stating they are voting R for Youngkin for the first time. Question, just curious - are you voting a straight R ticket or splitting the ticket?

They sound like the hipsters in the coffee shop voting Trump.


As much as you, the Biden’s, Obama, Abrams, Harris, and random Dems try to make this election about Trump, it is about McAuliffe and Youngkin and what people in Virginia want.

Stop by a Virginia coffee shop today, and the only people talking about Trump will be the pink pussy cat hat boomers too old to evolve politically.


This. I can’t stand Trump (who is NOT ON THE BALLOT), but I’ll tell you what I can’t stand more: needing to waste money on private school because the navel gazing equity morons in charge can’t get out of their own way. Bye!!


Nothing wrong with bringing more equity into the schools. Were you always a racist or is this new behavior?


DP.
Equity? Nope.
Equality? Sure.


Equity: fairness or justice in the way people are treated

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/

DP. You’re opposed to notions of fairness and justice in schools? You’re really letting the racist flag fly here.


DP. Academic equity is the opposite of academic excellence.

I'd like to see excellence in schools.


In which schools?

Currently, inequalities and biases are creating additional hurdles for some kids and schools to achieve “excellence”.

Don’t you want ALL kids and schools to excel?
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2021 12:29     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

Equity: You cancel advanced math because all groups aren’t doing equally well in it

Equality: you have advanced math and allow anyone in who is capable of taking it regardless of identity politics.