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This. I really hope public pressure is going to become so intense that the safetyists won't be able to implement their indefinite school reduction plan for more than a few months.
I've been fully compliant will stay-at-home orders, I diligently wear a mask when I go among people and I think everyone should (except young kids), but keeping kids in very part-time school for the foreseeable future is a crazy plan and really discredits the whole lockdown approach, to goal of which was ostensibly to flatten the curve and prevent hospitals from getting overwhelmed. Covid will be with us for a while and life has never been risk-free. We have to weigh costs and benefits, as we do in all areas of life. It's not like Covid is such an outsized threat compared to all the other things one could die of on any given day that we should just completely stop forever living normal lives with reasonable precautions. I hardly ever agree with Republicans on anything, but on this matter, they have a point.
I know everyone is counting on a vaccine within the next year but that is far from certain.
You're being way too reasonable for this crowd.
+100. First it was to flatten the curve, then it just continued. And now it seems like the new goal is 0% risk. 0% risk is not logical or attainable. Yet, here we are with no end date. I mean, we can't just keep the school situation all messed up for an undisclosed period of time. It's ridiculous.
Schools are the only consistent forum in this country where hundreds to thousands of people crowd together in small boxes, thin hallways, and tight stairwells. You're practically begging the infection rates to skyrocket by opening them up again.
Governments have to think of the well-being of the community. Not just the desires of fed-up parents.
Except that data from countries that never locked down their schools don't show them to be the cause of skyrocketing infection rates. How does that information fit into your worldview?
We've all seen the articles and the pictures of schools around the world opening up. None of them are crowded-there are a few masked kids sitting well-spaced out in a classroom, kids sitting in a marked off circle in the grass, kids lining up for temperature checks and tests. We can't even afford to supply our classrooms with pencils with our current budgets. Parents demand their kids back full time, so there's no way to reduce crowding.
How do YOU not understand the difference?
I said COUNTRIES THAT NEVER LOCKED DOWN THEIR SCHOOLS. Sweden, for instance, never shut down elementary schools, recognizing that DL was not feasible at that age. They kept operating at full capacity. Learn to read and check the facts.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
This. I really hope public pressure is going to become so intense that the safetyists won't be able to implement their indefinite school reduction plan for more than a few months.
I've been fully compliant will stay-at-home orders, I diligently wear a mask when I go among people and I think everyone should (except young kids), but keeping kids in very part-time school for the foreseeable future is a crazy plan and really discredits the whole lockdown approach, to goal of which was ostensibly to flatten the curve and prevent hospitals from getting overwhelmed. Covid will be with us for a while and life has never been risk-free. We have to weigh costs and benefits, as we do in all areas of life. It's not like Covid is such an outsized threat compared to all the other things one could die of on any given day that we should just completely stop forever living normal lives with reasonable precautions. I hardly ever agree with Republicans on anything, but on this matter, they have a point.
I know everyone is counting on a vaccine within the next year but that is far from certain.
You're being way too reasonable for this crowd.
+100. First it was to flatten the curve, then it just continued. And now it seems like the new goal is 0% risk. 0% risk is not logical or attainable. Yet, here we are with no end date. I mean, we can't just keep the school situation all messed up for an undisclosed period of time. It's ridiculous.
I don't think it will be for an undisclosed period of time. I think after the vaccine comes out the kids will go back. I wish I could believe that it was coming sooner rather than later but it doesn't seem to be realistic.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
This. I really hope public pressure is going to become so intense that the safetyists won't be able to implement their indefinite school reduction plan for more than a few months.
I've been fully compliant will stay-at-home orders, I diligently wear a mask when I go among people and I think everyone should (except young kids), but keeping kids in very part-time school for the foreseeable future is a crazy plan and really discredits the whole lockdown approach, to goal of which was ostensibly to flatten the curve and prevent hospitals from getting overwhelmed. Covid will be with us for a while and life has never been risk-free. We have to weigh costs and benefits, as we do in all areas of life. It's not like Covid is such an outsized threat compared to all the other things one could die of on any given day that we should just completely stop forever living normal lives with reasonable precautions. I hardly ever agree with Republicans on anything, but on this matter, they have a point.
I know everyone is counting on a vaccine within the next year but that is far from certain.
You're being way too reasonable for this crowd.
+100. First it was to flatten the curve, then it just continued. And now it seems like the new goal is 0% risk. 0% risk is not logical or attainable. Yet, here we are with no end date. I mean, we can't just keep the school situation all messed up for an undisclosed period of time. It's ridiculous.
Schools are the only consistent forum in this country where hundreds to thousands of people crowd together in small boxes, thin hallways, and tight stairwells. You're practically begging the infection rates to skyrocket by opening them up again.
Governments have to think of the well-being of the community. Not just the desires of fed-up parents.
Except that data from countries that never locked down their schools don't show them to be the cause of skyrocketing infection rates. How does that information fit into your worldview?
We've all seen the articles and the pictures of schools around the world opening up. None of them are crowded-there are a few masked kids sitting well-spaced out in a classroom, kids sitting in a marked off circle in the grass, kids lining up for temperature checks and tests. We can't even afford to supply our classrooms with pencils with our current budgets. Parents demand their kids back full time, so there's no way to reduce crowding.
How do YOU not understand the difference?
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I don't think it will be for an undisclosed period of time. I think after the vaccine comes out the kids will go back. I wish I could believe that it was coming sooner rather than later but it doesn't seem to be realistic.
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She literally said everyone should wear masks "except young kids"-so just adults then? I'm not working closely with unmasked children. I teach elementary school. I should just accept that she doesn't think they should wear masks and everything is cool? Not happening.
OK. Kids will wear masks, you will teach. All good now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
This. I really hope public pressure is going to become so intense that the safetyists won't be able to implement their indefinite school reduction plan for more than a few months.
I've been fully compliant will stay-at-home orders, I diligently wear a mask when I go among people and I think everyone should (except young kids), but keeping kids in very part-time school for the foreseeable future is a crazy plan and really discredits the whole lockdown approach, to goal of which was ostensibly to flatten the curve and prevent hospitals from getting overwhelmed. Covid will be with us for a while and life has never been risk-free. We have to weigh costs and benefits, as we do in all areas of life. It's not like Covid is such an outsized threat compared to all the other things one could die of on any given day that we should just completely stop forever living normal lives with reasonable precautions. I hardly ever agree with Republicans on anything, but on this matter, they have a point.
I know everyone is counting on a vaccine within the next year but that is far from certain.
You're being way too reasonable for this crowd.
+100. First it was to flatten the curve, then it just continued. And now it seems like the new goal is 0% risk. 0% risk is not logical or attainable. Yet, here we are with no end date. I mean, we can't just keep the school situation all messed up for an undisclosed period of time. It's ridiculous.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
This. I really hope public pressure is going to become so intense that the safetyists won't be able to implement their indefinite school reduction plan for more than a few months.
I've been fully compliant will stay-at-home orders, I diligently wear a mask when I go among people and I think everyone should (except young kids), but keeping kids in very part-time school for the foreseeable future is a crazy plan and really discredits the whole lockdown approach, to goal of which was ostensibly to flatten the curve and prevent hospitals from getting overwhelmed. Covid will be with us for a while and life has never been risk-free. We have to weigh costs and benefits, as we do in all areas of life. It's not like Covid is such an outsized threat compared to all the other things one could die of on any given day that we should just completely stop forever living normal lives with reasonable precautions. I hardly ever agree with Republicans on anything, but on this matter, they have a point.
I know everyone is counting on a vaccine within the next year but that is far from certain.
You're being way too reasonable for this crowd.
+100. First it was to flatten the curve, then it just continued. And now it seems like the new goal is 0% risk. 0% risk is not logical or attainable. Yet, here we are with no end date. I mean, we can't just keep the school situation all messed up for an undisclosed period of time. It's ridiculous.
Schools are the only consistent forum in this country where hundreds to thousands of people crowd together in small boxes, thin hallways, and tight stairwells. You're practically begging the infection rates to skyrocket by opening them up again.
Governments have to think of the well-being of the community. Not just the desires of fed-up parents.
Anonymous wrote:
She literally said everyone should wear masks "except young kids"-so just adults then? I'm not working closely with unmasked children. I teach elementary school. I should just accept that she doesn't think they should wear masks and everything is cool? Not happening.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
This. I really hope public pressure is going to become so intense that the safetyists won't be able to implement their indefinite school reduction plan for more than a few months.
I've been fully compliant will stay-at-home orders, I diligently wear a mask when I go among people and I think everyone should (except young kids), but keeping kids in very part-time school for the foreseeable future is a crazy plan and really discredits the whole lockdown approach, to goal of which was ostensibly to flatten the curve and prevent hospitals from getting overwhelmed. Covid will be with us for a while and life has never been risk-free. We have to weigh costs and benefits, as we do in all areas of life. It's not like Covid is such an outsized threat compared to all the other things one could die of on any given day that we should just completely stop forever living normal lives with reasonable precautions. I hardly ever agree with Republicans on anything, but on this matter, they have a point.
I know everyone is counting on a vaccine within the next year but that is far from certain.
So you want schools to open up full time at full capacity, without masks. Simply, you are not going to get your way. Public pressure doesn't trump safety, and doesn't magically fund our schools or any of the incredibly expensive measures we'd need to implement in order to open them.
Did PP say that? No, PP did not. In fact, PP explicitly said the opposite.
Also, masks are not incredibly expensive measures.
She literally said everyone should wear masks "except young kids"-so just adults then? I'm not working closely with unmasked children. I teach elementary school. I should just accept that she doesn't think they should wear masks and everything is cool? Not happening.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
This. I really hope public pressure is going to become so intense that the safetyists won't be able to implement their indefinite school reduction plan for more than a few months.
I've been fully compliant will stay-at-home orders, I diligently wear a mask when I go among people and I think everyone should (except young kids), but keeping kids in very part-time school for the foreseeable future is a crazy plan and really discredits the whole lockdown approach, to goal of which was ostensibly to flatten the curve and prevent hospitals from getting overwhelmed. Covid will be with us for a while and life has never been risk-free. We have to weigh costs and benefits, as we do in all areas of life. It's not like Covid is such an outsized threat compared to all the other things one could die of on any given day that we should just completely stop forever living normal lives with reasonable precautions. I hardly ever agree with Republicans on anything, but on this matter, they have a point.
I know everyone is counting on a vaccine within the next year but that is far from certain.
You're being way too reasonable for this crowd.
+100. First it was to flatten the curve, then it just continued. And now it seems like the new goal is 0% risk. 0% risk is not logical or attainable. Yet, here we are with no end date. I mean, we can't just keep the school situation all messed up for an undisclosed period of time. It's ridiculous.
Schools are the only consistent forum in this country where hundreds to thousands of people crowd together in small boxes, thin hallways, and tight stairwells. You're practically begging the infection rates to skyrocket by opening them up again.
Governments have to think of the well-being of the community. Not just the desires of fed-up parents.
Except that data from countries that never locked down their schools don't show them to be the cause of skyrocketing infection rates. How does that information fit into your worldview?
Anonymous wrote:
Schools are the only consistent forum in this country where hundreds to thousands of people crowd together in small boxes, thin hallways, and tight stairwells. You're practically begging the infection rates to skyrocket by opening them up again.
Governments have to think of the well-being of the community. Not just the desires of fed-up parents.