Anonymous
Post 10/03/2019 08:52     Subject: Re:Whistleblower complaint released

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Anonymous wrote:Now we know that Schiff had advanced knowledge of this whistleblower's complaint makes it even more curious at why one of his staffers traveled to Ukraine in late August.
Was this the same staffer that the whistleblower contacted? We need to know.
And, we need to know the purpose for the trip.


He only had knowledge of a complaint, he didn't know who or the nature. All his staff did was tell them to file a complaint with the IG, which is the law. Nothing more. And, it doesn't change that Trump and Giuliani ADMITTED to the crime already. You are just muddying the waters with conspiracy BS.


We don't know any of this to be true. All we have is what Schiff has said. And, the fact that he hid his staff's contact with the whistleblower indicates he has something to hide.
And, there was no crime by Trump.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2019 08:51     Subject: Whistleblower complaint released

WaPo: Odd markings, ellipses fuel doubts about the ‘rough transcript’ of Trump’s Ukraine call

What’s fueling my doubts is Trump calling it perfect and word for word and comma by comma and talking about stenographers and sh!t. Oh, and also it’s twenty minutes shorter than it should be.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/10/03/odd-markings-ellipses-fuel-doubts-about-rough-transcript-trumps-ukraine-call/#click=https://t.co/dA4jsYxnjn

Anonymous
Post 10/03/2019 08:44     Subject: Re:Whistleblower complaint released

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Now we know that Schiff had advanced knowledge of this whistleblower's complaint makes it even more curious at why one of his staffers traveled to Ukraine in late August.
Was this the same staffer that the whistleblower contacted? We need to know.
And, we need to know the purpose for the trip.


If nothing wrong was done, why was the "transcript" of the call placed into the super-secret NSC server? If nothing was done wrong, why is everyone lying about it now?


There was no quid pro quo. Zelensky and the Ukrainians did not know about the withheld funds until a month [u]after the phone call[/u]. Period.


Then why was Pence held back from attending the Inaugural?
Why did the Ukranians suddenly pull out of Donbass this week? Mere coincidence?

Seriously, you are falling for the shiny object here.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2019 08:39     Subject: Re:Whistleblower complaint released

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Now we know that Schiff had advanced knowledge of this whistleblower's complaint makes it even more curious at why one of his staffers traveled to Ukraine in late August.
Was this the same staffer that the whistleblower contacted? We need to know.
And, we need to know the purpose for the trip.


If nothing wrong was done, why was the "transcript" of the call placed into the super-secret NSC server? If nothing was done wrong, why is everyone lying about it now?


There was no quid pro quo. Zelensky and the Ukrainians did not know about the withheld funds until a month [u]after the phone call[/u]. Period.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2019 08:35     Subject: Re:Whistleblower complaint released

Anonymous wrote:Now we know that Schiff had advanced knowledge of this whistleblower's complaint makes it even more curious at why one of his staffers traveled to Ukraine in late August.
Was this the same staffer that the whistleblower contacted? We need to know.
And, we need to know the purpose for the trip.


If nothing wrong was done, why was the "transcript" of the call placed into the super-secret NSC server? If nothing was done wrong, why is everyone lying about it now?
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2019 08:35     Subject: Re:Whistleblower complaint released

Anonymous wrote:Now we know that Schiff had advanced knowledge of this whistleblower's complaint makes it even more curious at why one of his staffers traveled to Ukraine in late August.
Was this the same staffer that the whistleblower contacted? We need to know.
And, we need to know the purpose for the trip.


He only had knowledge of a complaint, he didn't know who or the nature. All his staff did was tell them to file a complaint with the IG, which is the law. Nothing more. And, it doesn't change that Trump and Giuliani ADMITTED to the crime already. You are just muddying the waters with conspiracy BS.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2019 08:33     Subject: Re:Whistleblower complaint released

Anonymous wrote:Now we know that Schiff had advanced knowledge of this whistleblower's complaint makes it even more curious at why one of his staffers traveled to Ukraine in late August.
Was this the same staffer that the whistleblower contacted? We need to know.
And, we need to know the purpose for the trip.


Trump knows he did a bad thing. Pence knows.

You don't know?
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2019 08:30     Subject: Re:Whistleblower complaint released

Now we know that Schiff had advanced knowledge of this whistleblower's complaint makes it even more curious at why one of his staffers traveled to Ukraine in late August.
Was this the same staffer that the whistleblower contacted? We need to know.
And, we need to know the purpose for the trip.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2019 21:21     Subject: Whistleblower complaint released

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:WASHINGTON — “A government watchdog group asked a federal judge on Tuesday to issue an emergency order requiring the White House to preserve records of all of President Donald Trump’s calls with foreign leaders.

At a court hearing later in the day, a Justice Department lawyer told the judge that she couldn’t immediately commit to assuring that the administration would preserve records of all of Trump’s conversations, as well as other records about how the administration had handled those documents. The judge gave the government until Wednesday afternoon to make a decision.”

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/zoetillman/trump-lawsuit-call-records-foreign-leaders-impeachment?__twitter_impression=true


WHAAAAT???


The Justice Department told White House personnel on Wednesday that they must preserve all presidential records, including any notes regarding President Donald Trump's meetings and phone calls with foreign leaders.

“DOJ says the Trump administration will voluntarily give its assurance to not destroy records about Trump's and other officials' convos with foreign leaders — a judge yesterday strongly urged them to do this and avoid a messy legal fight.”
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/zoetillman/trump-lawsuit-preserve-records-foreign-calls-impeachment?__twitter_impression=true
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2019 21:15     Subject: Whistleblower complaint released

Pence's people are doing their best to throw Trump under the bus and keep Pence clean. Trump is doing the same to Pence.

I don't know why you all are bent on believing in Trump's innocence in the face of that, as well as all the other evidence.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-involved-pence-in-efforts-to-pressure-ukraines-leader-though-aides-say-vice-president-was-unaware-of-pursuit-of-dirt-on-bidens/2019/10/02/263aa9e2-e4a7-11e9-b403-f738899982d2_story.html?fbclid=IwAR1lrEKrDequCRiia-2MJDzubAukanITz92Xb8J4i7OErz2-Z5rAkwWjve4
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2019 21:07     Subject: Whistleblower complaint released

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Anonymous wrote:Schiff didn't do anything wrong. You are willfully distracting from an illegal phone conversation the President had with another country, one that he admitted to and that he has provided summaries to, and that others have confirmed.

Schiff is another distraction, like Biden, UraniumOne, Pizzagate, her emails and the list goes on.

And you will fall for the Mifsud story too, when Barr and Pompeo come running back with it.


There was no "illegal phone conversation."


Imagine Obama called Netanyahu in July 2011 and told him he was witholding funds to israel unless he made up a story about Mitt Romney. Hillary listened in on the call and when it became public, Eric Holder covered it up.

What would your reaction be?


That would be bad.
Trump didn't say he was withholding funds.
And, he didn't ask anyone to make up a story about anyone.
And, nobody covered it up.
So, your analogy sucks.


So you think Ukraine didn't know it hadn't received U.S. promised and approved funds yet? Because trump didn't tell them so? Bwahahahahah


That is correct. Ukraine did not know until well after the phone call...

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/christopherm51/ukraine-unaware-aid-holdup-month-after-trump-call


As that article said, Ukraine knew they had not received the aid money. They didn't know why, but they knew they didn't have it.


Actually, no. Read the first paragraph of the article. It explicitly says that Zelensky believed that the money was on it's way at the time of the phone call. They did not receive word of the holdup until a month after the call. The word of the holdup came via a letter a month after the phone call.


Yes, they were waiting, hoping the funds would post any minute, any day... Constantly checking the bank account until they finally heard that the funds had officially been withheld with no reason given. Pure panic. For months.

I know the feeling, looking at my bank account, hoping that the check will post, any minute now, any day... But for me, it does. It's not mysteriously held up, with no reason given.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2019 21:01     Subject: Re:Whistleblower complaint released

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Anonymous wrote:Schiff is now a fact witness and needs to recuse.


A fact witness to what? If the whistleblower hadn't gone to the Congressional aide then the complaint would've been successfully buried by the White House.


How can it be buried when we all have seen it?
And, he went to Schiff's office BEFORE he ever filed the complaint.


Quoting directly from the NY Times article - the timeline

The C.I.A. officer first had a colleague take his concerns — in vague form — to the C.I.A.’s general counsel, Courtney Simmons Elwood, who began a preliminary inquiry by contacting a deputy White House counsel, alerting the White House that complaints were coming from the C.I.A.

As C.I.A. and White House lawyers began following up on the complaint, the C.I.A. officer became nervous, according to a person familiar with the matter. He learned that John Eisenberg, a deputy White House counsel and the legal adviser to the national security adviser, was among those scrutinizing his initial allegation....

...The C.I.A. officer decided the complaint he had brought to Ms. Elwood was at risk of being swept aside, prompting him to go to the lawmakers who conduct oversight of the intelligence agencies.

He followed the advice of Mr. Schiff’s aide and filed his complaint to Mr. Atkinson. And though Mr. Maguire blocked him from forwarding it to Congress, he did allow Mr. Atkinson to notify lawmakers of its existence.


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/02/us/politics/adam-schiff-whistleblower.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage


And, he went to Schiff, not to the Senate Intelligence Committee as well.
This speaks volumes.
Schiff is such a liar.


What did Schiff lie about? And how does that change the underlying story, that the president illegally asked for foreign help in the 2020 election and used Congressionally appropriate aid to shake down the Ukranians, and now it is likely that he forced the Ukrainians to cede Dombass to the Russians, giving Putin a huge win in the region.


OMG.
He lied for 2 long years claiming he had more than circumstantial evidence that Trump colluded with Russia.
He lied when he performed his little parody on the House floor.
And, he lied about not knowing details of the whistleblower's complaint. https://twitter.com/KenDilanianNBC/status/1179529532698701824
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2019 21:00     Subject: Whistleblower complaint released

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Schiff didn't do anything wrong. You are willfully distracting from an illegal phone conversation the President had with another country, one that he admitted to and that he has provided summaries to, and that others have confirmed.

Schiff is another distraction, like Biden, UraniumOne, Pizzagate, her emails and the list goes on.

And you will fall for the Mifsud story too, when Barr and Pompeo come running back with it.


There was no "illegal phone conversation."


Imagine Obama called Netanyahu in July 2011 and told him he was witholding funds to israel unless he made up a story about Mitt Romney. Hillary listened in on the call and when it became public, Eric Holder covered it up.

What would your reaction be?


That would be bad.
Trump didn't say he was withholding funds.
And, he didn't ask anyone to make up a story about anyone.
And, nobody covered it up.
So, your analogy sucks.


So you think Ukraine didn't know it hadn't received U.S. promised and approved funds yet? Because trump didn't tell them so? Bwahahahahah


That is correct. Ukraine did not know until well after the phone call...

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/christopherm51/ukraine-unaware-aid-holdup-month-after-trump-call


As that article said, Ukraine knew they had not received the aid money. They didn't know why, but they knew they didn't have it.


Actually, no. Read the first paragraph of the article. It explicitly says that Zelensky believed that the money was on it's way at the time of the phone call. They did not receive word of the holdup until a month after the call. The word of the holdup came via a letter a month after the phone call.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2019 20:57     Subject: Whistleblower complaint released

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Schiff didn't do anything wrong. You are willfully distracting from an illegal phone conversation the President had with another country, one that he admitted to and that he has provided summaries to, and that others have confirmed.

Schiff is another distraction, like Biden, UraniumOne, Pizzagate, her emails and the list goes on.

And you will fall for the Mifsud story too, when Barr and Pompeo come running back with it.


There was no "illegal phone conversation."


Imagine Obama called Netanyahu in July 2011 and told him he was witholding funds to israel unless he made up a story about Mitt Romney. Hillary listened in on the call and when it became public, Eric Holder covered it up.

What would your reaction be?


That would be bad.
Trump didn't say he was withholding funds.
And, he didn't ask anyone to make up a story about anyone.
And, nobody covered it up.
So, your analogy sucks.


So you think Ukraine didn't know it hadn't received U.S. promised and approved funds yet? Because trump didn't tell them so? Bwahahahahah


Based on NYTimes reporting, they didn't know that funds had been withheld until a month after the phone call.


Exactly...so, how could there even have been an "implicit" quid pro quo, if Zelensky didn't know the funds had been withheld?
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2019 20:57     Subject: Whistleblower complaint released

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Schiff didn't do anything wrong. You are willfully distracting from an illegal phone conversation the President had with another country, one that he admitted to and that he has provided summaries to, and that others have confirmed.

Schiff is another distraction, like Biden, UraniumOne, Pizzagate, her emails and the list goes on.

And you will fall for the Mifsud story too, when Barr and Pompeo come running back with it.


There was no "illegal phone conversation."


Imagine Obama called Netanyahu in July 2011 and told him he was witholding funds to israel unless he made up a story about Mitt Romney. Hillary listened in on the call and when it became public, Eric Holder covered it up.

What would your reaction be?


That would be bad.
Trump didn't say he was withholding funds.
And, he didn't ask anyone to make up a story about anyone.
And, nobody covered it up.
So, your analogy sucks.


So you think Ukraine didn't know it hadn't received U.S. promised and approved funds yet? Because trump didn't tell them so? Bwahahahahah


That is correct. Ukraine did not know until well after the phone call...

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/christopherm51/ukraine-unaware-aid-holdup-month-after-trump-call


As that article said, Ukraine knew they had not received the aid money. They didn't know why, but they knew they didn't have it.