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I am talking about laymen. The average man on the street in the South will definitely know about Duke. Same for the Midwest and Northwestern, and definitely UCLA/UC Berkeley for the average Californian.

Born and raised in the Midwest. The average Midwesterner doesn't care about or even know of Northwestern. If they're a couch potato football viewer they know Northwestern has a mediocre football team. Outside of that, very little name rec let alone prestige to the average Midwest resident. Most Midwest folks might hold their own state's flagship in high regard but they don't give a flying f*** about Northwestern (or UChicago).

What schools have any academic swagger to the average Midwesterner?

Outside of the flagship U or whatever state you're in...HYPSM...and maybe Duke and Notre Dame. That's it.

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Elite -- top 35 or 40. Those are the people that run the world. It is not just top 5 or 10. You are missing the picture if you think that.

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I am talking about laymen. The average man on the street in the South will definitely know about Duke. Same for the Midwest and Northwestern, and definitely UCLA/UC Berkeley for the average Californian.

Born and raised in the Midwest. The average Midwesterner doesn't care about or even know of Northwestern. If they're a couch potato football viewer they know Northwestern has a mediocre football team. Outside of that, very little name rec let alone prestige to the average Midwest resident. Most Midwest folks might hold their own state's flagship in high regard but they don't give a flying f*** about Northwestern (or UChicago).

Church!

Anonymous wrote:HYPSM has distinct shared attributes:

They have the top 5 endowments of all colleges.

They don't use binding early decisions.

They have the top 5 yield rate of all top colleges.

Their graduates are leaders of the country in academics, politics, law, tech, and business. Harvard has 7 Rhodes scholars this year. Princeton and Stanford have Nobel Price winners this year ...

Compelling!

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Anonymous wrote:HYPSM has distinct shared attributes:

They have the top 5 endowments of all colleges.

They don't use binding early decisions.

They have the top 5 yield rate of all top colleges.

Their graduates are leaders of the country in academics, politics, law, tech, and business. Harvard has 7 Rhodes scholars this year. Princeton and Stanford have Nobel Price winners this year ...

They don't have the top 5 amount of research funding.

They don't have the top 5 number of Nobel Laureates.

You see, you can pick any kinds of factors into comparison and get different top 5's.

Absolutely. Those posters who religiously believe that the endowment is the end of be all are quite something. They don’t have the brain capacity to understand the concept of how to spend money. Instead they just blindly look at the how much money part. No wonder there are so many people who are financially illiterate...

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I am talking about laymen. The average man on the street in the South will definitely know about Duke. Same for the Midwest and Northwestern, and definitely UCLA/UC Berkeley for the average Californian.

Born and raised in the Midwest. The average Midwesterner doesn't care about or even know of Northwestern. If they're a couch potato football viewer they know Northwestern has a mediocre football team. Outside of that, very little name rec let alone prestige to the average Midwest resident. Most Midwest folks might hold their own state's flagship in high regard but they don't give a flying f*** about Northwestern (or UChicago).

I grew up in western Michigan and have family in Minnesota, UP and the Dakotas. NU most definitely has name recognition in those regions, even among “average” laypeople who went to their local state school, and among more educated folks UC is definitely known as well.

No. People confuse Morthwestern and Northeastern all the time.

You are profoundly stupid.

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I am talking about laymen. The average man on the street in the South will definitely know about Duke. Same for the Midwest and Northwestern, and definitely UCLA/UC Berkeley for the average Californian.

Born and raised in the Midwest. The average Midwesterner doesn't care about or even know of Northwestern. If they're a couch potato football viewer they know Northwestern has a mediocre football team. Outside of that, very little name rec let alone prestige to the average Midwest resident. Most Midwest folks might hold their own state's flagship in high regard but they don't give a flying f*** about Northwestern (or UChicago).

I grew up in western Michigan and have family in Minnesota, UP and the Dakotas. NU most definitely has name recognition in those regions, even among “average” laypeople who went to their local state school, and among more educated folks UC is definitely known as well.

No. People confuse Morthwestern and Northeastern all the time.

Yeah no absolutely no one in the Midwest cares about or knows what Northeastern is. They'd just think you were misspeaking Northwestern.

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Anonymous wrote:HYPSM has distinct shared attributes:

They have the top 5 endowments of all colleges.

They don't use binding early decisions.

They have the top 5 yield rate of all top colleges.

Their graduates are leaders of the country in academics, politics, law, tech, and business. Harvard has 7 Rhodes scholars this year. Princeton and Stanford have Nobel Price winners this year ...

HYP is the only legitimate equivalent to UK’s Oxbridge.

Once you start adding a sports school like Stanford and a technology school like MIT, pretty soon you’ll have people from Tufts demanding it should be HYPSMT.

HYP and Oxbridge are the only world class WASPs.

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Anonymous wrote:HYPSM has distinct shared attributes:

They have the top 5 endowments of all colleges.

They don't use binding early decisions.

They have the top 5 yield rate of all top colleges.

Their graduates are leaders of the country in academics, politics, law, tech, and business. Harvard has 7 Rhodes scholars this year. Princeton and Stanford have Nobel Price winners this year ...

They don't have the top 5 amount of research funding.

They don't have the top 5 number of Nobel Laureates.

You see, you can pick any kinds of factors into comparison and get different top 5's.

Anonymous wrote:HYPSM has distinct shared attributes:

They have the top 5 endowments of all colleges.

They don't use binding early decisions.

They have the top 5 yield rate of all top colleges.

Their graduates are leaders of the country in academics, politics, law, tech, and business. Harvard has 7 Rhodes scholars this year. Princeton and Stanford have Nobel Price winners this year ...

HYP is the only legitimate equivalent to UK’s Oxbridge.

Once you start adding a sports school like Stanford and a technology school like MIT, pretty soon you’ll have people from Tufts demanding it should be HYPSMT.

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Anonymous wrote:
I am talking about laymen. The average man on the street in the South will definitely know about Duke. Same for the Midwest and Northwestern, and definitely UCLA/UC Berkeley for the average Californian.

Born and raised in the Midwest. The average Midwesterner doesn't care about or even know of Northwestern. If they're a couch potato football viewer they know Northwestern has a mediocre football team. Outside of that, very little name rec let alone prestige to the average Midwest resident. Most Midwest folks might hold their own state's flagship in high regard but they don't give a flying f*** about Northwestern (or UChicago).

I grew up in western Michigan and have family in Minnesota, UP and the Dakotas. NU most definitely has name recognition in those regions, even among “average” laypeople who went to their local state school, and among more educated folks UC is definitely known as well.

No. People confuse Morthwestern and Northeastern all the time.

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Anonymous wrote:
I am talking about laymen. The average man on the street in the South will definitely know about Duke. Same for the Midwest and Northwestern, and definitely UCLA/UC Berkeley for the average Californian.

Born and raised in the Midwest. The average Midwesterner doesn't care about or even know of Northwestern. If they're a couch potato football viewer they know Northwestern has a mediocre football team. Outside of that, very little name rec let alone prestige to the average Midwest resident. Most Midwest folks might hold their own state's flagship in high regard but they don't give a flying f*** about Northwestern (or UChicago).

I grew up in western Michigan and have family in Minnesota, UP and the Dakotas. NU most definitely has name recognition in those regions, even among “average” laypeople who went to their local state school, and among more educated folks UC is definitely known as well.

HYPSM has distinct shared attributes:

They have the top 5 endowments of all colleges.

They don't use binding early decisions.

They have the top 5 yield rate of all top colleges.

Their graduates are leaders of the country in academics, politics, law, tech, and business. Harvard has 7 Rhodes scholars this year. Princeton and Stanford have Nobel Price winners this year ...

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Anonymous wrote:Posters on here are so deep in the bubble they have lost it. Any one educated at Brown or Rice or Duke or any of the others on here has an elite education. Get out a little so you can see that.

These people are hypsm fans. Only hypsm will do for their sick puppies. They are really fragile people.

Are you saying that everyone should get a trophy?
Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT [HYPSM] are the crème de la crème. The Elite of the Elites. Is this a controversial statement?
Nonetheless, Brown, Rice and Duke are phenomenal universities and considered elite on many lists.
What is your beef?
BTW, I am in neither the HYPSM or bust gang, nor the elite institution or bust gang.

Once again for the older folks hard of hearing in the back:

Wiki on verifiability issues with HYPS, HYPSM, and HYPSMC:

“As things stand, no sources are provided to show any significant widespread use of any of these initialisms. I find it very hard to imagine a guidance counsellor saying "if you want to get into one of the aitch why pee ess em cee schools...." The verifiability policy notes that "The burden of evidence lies with the editors who have made an edit or wish an edit to remain." So far, those editors have declined to do this.”

Now, all the old folks, take a seat and be quiet.

Did you cite Wikipedia and was it accepted in your PhD dissertation?
If not, let's avoid citing them as your authority.

Ironically, Wikipedia seems to be just find with HYP (i.e., the "Big Three"): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Three_(colleges)

Yes, HYP or the "Big Three," is the only legitimate acronym that has been recognized by the public, unlike the others, which are only used by admission consultants, high school kids, and insecure parents. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Three_(colleges)

Ironically, posting the wikipedia link isn't very helpful for justifying the acronym today:

"The Big Three is a historical term used in the United States to refer to the sports rivalry between Harvard University, Yale University, and Princeton University. The phrase Big Three originated in the 1880s, when these three colleges dominated [/b] college football.[/b] In 1906, these schools formed a sports compact that formalized a three-way football competition which began in 1878."

"Edward Digby Baltzell wrote: "The three major upper-class institutions in America have been Harvard, Yale, and Princeton." These colleges have, in the past, been set apart from others by a special historic connection with the White-Anglo-Saxon Protestant (WASP) establishment. Of the three, Princeton University was traditionally the preferred choice of the Southern upper class."

"The "Big Three" schools: Princeton, Harvard and Yale are often rated among the top three institutions in the National Universities category along with Columbia and Massachusetts Institute of Technology."