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Anonymous wrote:Not a snooze fest for me. I liked the back story of the OB. And the fireman's marriage. All very sappy, but keeping with the genre.

I loved it, but why did they have a Low Carb food aisle at the 1980 grocery store?

Anonymous wrote:Not a snooze fest for me. I liked the back story of the OB. And the fireman's marriage. All very sappy, but keeping with the genre.

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Anonymous wrote:Tonight's episode was a snooze fest. Dull as dirt.

I'll go ahead and agree with that one.

Anonymous wrote:Tonight's episode was a snooze fest. Dull as dirt.

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Anonymous wrote:How were you not moved by that? He hears Rebecca crying, so he goes and sacrifices his pride by going to his Dad, whom he probably hasn't seen in years and who doesn't even know he's married, and asking for money. His Dad assumes that he is a loser who needs it for gambling, so he just agrees that he's a loser so that his Dad can feel good and give him the money. He puts himself through this humiliating experience so that he can buy a house for his wife and triplets.

New PP, but I think my lack of being moved by much of what Jack does is that I think he's a bit of a controlling a$$ (a bit like Jess on GG, actually). I know we're supposed to think it's a grand gesture that he hears Rebecca crying so he goes and surprises her with a house, but I don't feel that way. I feel like he went and bought a house without even talking to her about it! All of it comes back to the first episode where he refuses to let the doctor have a conversation about what to do if something goes wrong with the delivery, even when Rebecca is saying she wants to have that conversation. It's always about Jack being a hero and saving the day.

It's also not 2017 in those scenes.

Yeah. It's also because he knows that Rebecca wouldn't let him do it. She's hiding the fact that she's crying from him, and trying to put on a happy face about moving in with her monster-mom so that he doesn't feel crappy about the fact that he doesn't make enough $$ to support his family. He knows all that, and knows that she'd sacrifice herself (move in with monster-mom) rather than let him sacrifice himself (grovel to abusive-dad). The truth is that a lot of men in the 1970s (and today) would not have solved the problem that way -- they would have gone out drinking and resented the hell out of their wife and kids because they'd feel guilty and like "less of a man" because they couldn't support the family. Good for him for not turning his guilt onto her, and instead just figuring out a way to solve it. Even if the house wasn't exactly what she would have picked, it beats living with her mom by miles and miles. He knew that, and it's not like their options were extensive -- they couldn't have afforded a different house, and it sounds like even a reasonable apartment would be out of their reach financially. So, I'm okay with this scenario, even though I usually hate it when guys on TV shows or in movie buy their wife a big purchase as a "surprise" (even the car commercials at Christmas with the big bow bug me in a major way).

I absolutely love the Jack character and, let's be real for a minute -- for a 1970's white construction foreman in Pittsburgh, the guy is downright radical when it comes to women's rights. I also liked the fact that he told his dad he had a gambling problem rather than tell him that his wife was pregnant -- maybe he thought that his dad would be more likely to give him $$ if he showed him how right he was about him being a loser, but I tend to think that he didn't want the dad to know about the kids because he didn't want the dad trying to screw up the kids lives.

And, can we just say for a minute...can you imagine being pregnant with triplets and having a Caesar salad and a Diet Coke for lunch? I would be like "Um, and on top of that salad, can you bring a double bacon cheeseburger with a milkshake. But just hold the salad and instead bring a second milkshake." What a witch of a mom. (I actually thought the mom was going to push her to get an abortion, but I guess the writers decided not to go there.) I assume at some point we'll learn what the mom thought about them adopting an African-American kid.

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Anonymous wrote:How were you not moved by that? He hears Rebecca crying, so he goes and sacrifices his pride by going to his Dad, whom he probably hasn't seen in years and who doesn't even know he's married, and asking for money. His Dad assumes that he is a loser who needs it for gambling, so he just agrees that he's a loser so that his Dad can feel good and give him the money. He puts himself through this humiliating experience so that he can buy a house for his wife and triplets.

New PP, but I think my lack of being moved by much of what Jack does is that I think he's a bit of a controlling a$$ (a bit like Jess on GG, actually). I know we're supposed to think it's a grand gesture that he hears Rebecca crying so he goes and surprises her with a house, but I don't feel that way. I feel like he went and bought a house without even talking to her about it! All of it comes back to the first episode where he refuses to let the doctor have a conversation about what to do if something goes wrong with the delivery, even when Rebecca is saying she wants to have that conversation. It's always about Jack being a hero and saving the day.

It's also not 2017 in those scenes.

Yeah. It's also because he knows that Rebecca wouldn't let him do it. She's hiding the fact that she's crying from him, and trying to put on a happy face about moving in with her monster-mom so that he doesn't feel crappy about the fact that he doesn't make enough $$ to support his family. He knows all that, and knows that she'd sacrifice herself (move in with monster-mom) rather than let him sacrifice himself (grovel to abusive-dad). The truth is that a lot of men in the 1970s (and today) would not have solved the problem that way -- they would have gone out drinking and resented the hell out of their wife and kids because they'd feel guilty and like "less of a man" because they couldn't support the family. Good for him for not turning his guilt onto her, and instead just figuring out a way to solve it. Even if the house wasn't exactly what she would have picked, it beats living with her mom by miles and miles. He knew that, and it's not like their options were extensive -- they couldn't have afforded a different house, and it sounds like even a reasonable apartment would be out of their reach financially. So, I'm okay with this scenario, even though I usually hate it when guys on TV shows or in movie buy their wife a big purchase as a "surprise" (even the car commercials at Christmas with the big bow bug me in a major way).

I absolutely love the Jack character and, let's be real for a minute -- for a 1970's white construction foreman in Pittsburgh, the guy is downright radical when it comes to women's rights. I also liked the fact that he told his dad he had a gambling problem rather than tell him that his wife was pregnant -- maybe he thought that his dad would be more likely to give him $$ if he showed him how right he was about him being a loser, but I tend to think that he didn't want the dad to know about the kids because he didn't want the dad trying to screw up the kids lives.

And, can we just say for a minute...can you imagine being pregnant with triplets and having a Caesar salad and a Diet Coke for lunch? I would be like "Um, and on top of that salad, can you bring a double bacon cheeseburger with a milkshake. But just hold the salad and instead bring a second milkshake." What a witch of a mom. (I actually thought the mom was going to push her to get an abortion, but I guess the writers decided not to go there.) I assume at some point we'll learn what the mom thought about them adopting an African-American kid.

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Anonymous wrote:Its a constant friggin hallmark card event.

However, Randall really only needs to appear on screen now and I begin to weep / laugh / weep.

The others, not so much. Kate did a terrible job of "acting" in the hospital scenes. Blank eyes, zero emotion, totally boring.

I feel like this is Kate in pretty much every scene. Everything she says sounds like a complaint.

One thing I do find very funny is that Mandy Moore is definitely taller than Milo Ventimiglia, but they keep changing his height depending on the scene. I know the internet says they're both 5'9" but that's wishful thinking on Milo's part.

In the doctor's office they have them sit at an angle so Milo looks taller. When they walk through the house under construction, and they're standing far apart at the entrance, you can see Mandy is taller than Milo. When they're upstairs picturing the nursery, they are the same height. When the camera cuts back to Milo swinging her around in a hug, again it's so obvious. Kudos to Mandy for not doing the Rory slouch.

He looks taller sitting because his TORSO is longer than hers. Little legs man.

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Anonymous wrote:Its a constant friggin hallmark card event.

However, Randall really only needs to appear on screen now and I begin to weep / laugh / weep.

The others, not so much. Kate did a terrible job of "acting" in the hospital scenes. Blank eyes, zero emotion, totally boring.

I feel like this is Kate in pretty much every scene. Everything she says sounds like a complaint.

One thing I do find very funny is that Mandy Moore is definitely taller than Milo Ventimiglia, but they keep changing his height depending on the scene. I know the internet says they're both 5'9" but that's wishful thinking on Milo's part.

In the doctor's office they have them sit at an angle so Milo looks taller. When they walk through the house under construction, and they're standing far apart at the entrance, you can see Mandy is taller than Milo. When they're upstairs picturing the nursery, they are the same height. When the camera cuts back to Milo swinging her around in a hug, again it's so obvious. Kudos to Mandy for not doing the Rory slouch.

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Anonymous wrote:How were you not moved by that? He hears Rebecca crying, so he goes and sacrifices his pride by going to his Dad, whom he probably hasn't seen in years and who doesn't even know he's married, and asking for money. His Dad assumes that he is a loser who needs it for gambling, so he just agrees that he's a loser so that his Dad can feel good and give him the money. He puts himself through this humiliating experience so that he can buy a house for his wife and triplets.

New PP, but I think my lack of being moved by much of what Jack does is that I think he's a bit of a controlling a$$ (a bit like Jess on GG, actually). I know we're supposed to think it's a grand gesture that he hears Rebecca crying so he goes and surprises her with a house, but I don't feel that way. I feel like he went and bought a house without even talking to her about it! All of it comes back to the first episode where he refuses to let the doctor have a conversation about what to do if something goes wrong with the delivery, even when Rebecca is saying she wants to have that conversation. It's always about Jack being a hero and saving the day.

It's also not 2017 in those scenes.

Anonymous wrote:Its a constant friggin hallmark card event.

However, Randall really only needs to appear on screen now and I begin to weep / laugh / weep.

The others, not so much. Kate did a terrible job of "acting" in the hospital scenes. Blank eyes, zero emotion, totally boring.