Anonymous
05/28/2013 08:56
Subject: Re:BASIS DC to open in 2012-2013
I heard the "lawyers" are really agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Anonymous
05/28/2013 07:46
Subject: BASIS DC to open in 2012-2013
06:14 and others, the fact is, no, we don't know that we have "heard from a teacher", no we don't know that it "was about IEPs and 504s", we don't know that it "was about race" - all we've heard is a variety of anonymous posts from people claiming various things, many which appear to be contradictory, don't make sense and so on.
Remember, this is a rumor mill where people routinely anonymously post anything and everything, whether true, false, imagined, speculated, or whatever - history has proven again and again that unless something official comes out, you should take DCUM rumor mongering with a large grain of salt.
Remember, this is a rumor mill where people routinely anonymously post anything and everything, whether true, false, imagined, speculated, or whatever - history has proven again and again that unless something official comes out, you should take DCUM rumor mongering with a large grain of salt.
Anonymous
05/28/2013 06:38
Subject: BASIS DC to open in 2012-2013
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^^^^and what do you suggest should be done with the seriously behind students who ended up at basis? Is it not a public school that is meant to educate all who come through the doors ( other than those who pose a physical danger to others, that is )
Actually is IS a public school meant to educate all who come through the doors via lottery. That is exactly what they agreed to when they opened their doors. If they wanted a private school where they could pick and choose their students then they should have gone the private route. When they decided (not anyone else, their choice) to be a public school they decided to give up the ability to pick their own students and be subject to a lottery. It is actually their problem if their students need to be on a 3rd/4th grade level. They have to meet that challenge.
How is having the kids repeat fifth or sixth grade until they have mastered the material and are prepared to move on not meeting the challenge?
Anonymous
05/28/2013 06:36
Subject: BASIS DC to open in 2012-2013
Anonymous wrote:^^^^and what do you suggest should be done with the seriously behind students who ended up at basis? Is it not a public school that is meant to educate all who come through the doors ( other than those who pose a physical danger to others, that is )
Exactly what I suggested. They should remain in remedial fifth grade or remedial sixth, if they entered in sixth, until they are prepared to tackle the rigorous BASIS curriculum.
Anonymous
05/28/2013 06:34
Subject: BASIS DC to open in 2012-2013
Anonymous wrote:^^^^and what do you suggest should be done with the seriously behind students who ended up at basis? Is it not a public school that is meant to educate all who come through the doors ( other than those who pose a physical danger to others, that is )
Actually is IS a public school meant to educate all who come through the doors via lottery. That is exactly what they agreed to when they opened their doors. If they wanted a private school where they could pick and choose their students then they should have gone the private route. When they decided (not anyone else, their choice) to be a public school they decided to give up the ability to pick their own students and be subject to a lottery. It is actually their problem if their students need to be on a 3rd/4th grade level. They have to meet that challenge.
Anonymous
05/28/2013 06:14
Subject: Re:BASIS DC to open in 2012-2013
In an ideal world, the lawyers would have been at BASIS because, according to a teacher, it is being investigated by the OCR and Charter Board about violating the rights of kids with IEPs and 504s. In one of the most racially polarized city in the nation, it is anybody's guess. So I have another probably irrelevant question: were the lawyers all black?
Anonymous
05/27/2013 23:47
Subject: BASIS DC to open in 2012-2013
^^^^and what do you suggest should be done with the seriously behind students who ended up at basis? Is it not a public school that is meant to educate all who come through the doors ( other than those who pose a physical danger to others, that is )
Anonymous
05/27/2013 21:22
Subject: BASIS DC to open in 2012-2013
Anonymous wrote:Honestly, the school should be responsible for lessening the disruption of troubled/ troubling students. Parents should not have to game the system to this degree. What does the school have in place to deal with disruptive and I invested kiddos? Also, is it possible some of these kids feel so completely unprepared And unable to access the material that they act out instead. That might be my reaction to constant failure and not measuring up. I sure hope the school is doing right by kids like that
Well, some of these kids are behind but a can be caught up with some encouragement and extra support. BASIS can help those kids.
Some of these kids are so far behind that they essentially have to repeat third and/or fourth grades to get caught up. Is it reasonable to expect BASIS, a middle school, to remedy the failure of dysfunctional elementary schools? How could BASIS possibly afford to provide that much extra support? How many hours would the kids have to spend in school each day to benefit from it?
I suppose one strategy would be to keep these kids in a fifth grade classroom that is essentially a remedial third-fourth grade classroom for a year or two that is referred to as "fifth grade". Once the kids have mastered the third/fourth material and are ready to face the academic rigors of BASIS, they can be "promoted" to a real fifth grade classroom.
I imagine that the strategy would fail, though. The kids in the "third-fourth" fifth grade will figure out what's going on and won't want to stay at BASIS. Heck, they might even file civil rights complaints if they are AA and feel that they were assigned to the "third-fourth" fifth grade in part because of their race.
Anonymous
05/27/2013 21:13
Subject: Re:BASIS DC to open in 2012-2013
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
One student who was interviewed saud ger griyo was asjed how they liked the school and what changes would they see happen.
The main complaint was that there were too many tests, and on those days with more than one test, the number of homeworks should be limited. Another complaint for this particular group was the pace of math, that the emphasis was about covering chapters, sometimes 2 in one day, instead of really learning the concept.
Huh, PP, it looks like 15:51 hasn't said a single thing about AA students. So it looks like your outrage is misplaced.
What they did say is that there are too many tests, too much homework, and an emphasis on "covering" math chapters, as opposed to teaching concepts thoroughly.
Pretty standard complaints for a test prep school.
No, the outrage isn't misplaced. Go back and look at what 13:41 posted, that poster said in clear terms this was about AA students supposedly being discriminated against. Are you calling that poster a liar?
I'm the poster you are quoting. No, I'm not calling anyone a liar. You're just making assumptions that 13:41 and 15:51 are the same person. Since this is an anonymous forum and those posters have not claimed to be the same person, your outrage is misplaced. Two posters can very easily have two different theories about why lawyers were in the school. One is that AA students are discriminated against (how was never spelled out by 13:41) and the other is that students have complaints about the work at the school (who was never spelled out by 15:51). So, yes, your outrage is misplaced.
Pretty simple, really.
Hey, 11:13: If you don't your random anonymous speculation to be confused with another poster's random anonymous speculation and that pile of random anonymous speculations then collectively stirring outrage then how about you don't post random anonymous speculation in the first place.
"Pretty simple, really."
Forgetting for the moment that you don't have much of a command of the English language and your post makes no sense, I am 11:13, not 13:41 or 15:51, which means I never speculated why the lawyers were at BASIS in the first place. I just pointed out how foolish you were to think they were the same person and how ridiculous your resulting outrage was.
Pretty simple, really.
Do you usually have this problem misunderstanding that you're talking to more than one person on an anonymous board? I have no problem owning up to my posts and always reference my previous posts. I'm going to bet you don't.
Anonymous
05/27/2013 15:58
Subject: BASIS DC to open in 2012-2013
Anonymous wrote:in a different direction here, my DC may be held back, which didn't worry me too much because I felt like next year will have culled the kids who don't want to be there and they will finally be able to have classes that aren't disruptive and non-productive. Then it hit me, d'oh! He will be held back (wants to be there) but so will all the kids who don't want to be there! I was thinking next year would be better but it will only be better if the kids held back AND disruptive decide to go elsewhere. Otherwise, just pushes the disruption problem down a grade level. Aaaaack!
I wouldn't be so worried. I'd expect a lot of the kids that truly don't want to be there won't be returning.
Anonymous
05/27/2013 14:04
Subject: BASIS DC to open in 2012-2013
Honestly, the school should be responsible for lessening the disruption of troubled/ troubling students. Parents should not have to game the system to this degree. What does the school have in place to deal with disruptive and I invested kiddos? Also, is it possible some of these kids feel so completely unprepared And unable to access the material that they act out instead. That might be my reaction to constant failure and not measuring up. I sure hope the school is doing right by kids like that
Anonymous
05/27/2013 13:54
Subject: BASIS DC to open in 2012-2013
in a different direction here, my DC may be held back, which didn't worry me too much because I felt like next year will have culled the kids who don't want to be there and they will finally be able to have classes that aren't disruptive and non-productive. Then it hit me, d'oh! He will be held back (wants to be there) but so will all the kids who don't want to be there! I was thinking next year would be better but it will only be better if the kids held back AND disruptive decide to go elsewhere. Otherwise, just pushes the disruption problem down a grade level. Aaaaack!
Anonymous
05/27/2013 12:12
Subject: Re:BASIS DC to open in 2012-2013
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
One student who was interviewed saud ger griyo was asjed how they liked the school and what changes would they see happen.
The main complaint was that there were too many tests, and on those days with more than one test, the number of homeworks should be limited. Another complaint for this particular group was the pace of math, that the emphasis was about covering chapters, sometimes 2 in one day, instead of really learning the concept.
Huh, PP, it looks like 15:51 hasn't said a single thing about AA students. So it looks like your outrage is misplaced.
What they did say is that there are too many tests, too much homework, and an emphasis on "covering" math chapters, as opposed to teaching concepts thoroughly.
Pretty standard complaints for a test prep school.
No, the outrage isn't misplaced. Go back and look at what 13:41 posted, that poster said in clear terms this was about AA students supposedly being discriminated against. Are you calling that poster a liar?
I'm the poster you are quoting. No, I'm not calling anyone a liar. You're just making assumptions that 13:41 and 15:51 are the same person. Since this is an anonymous forum and those posters have not claimed to be the same person, your outrage is misplaced. Two posters can very easily have two different theories about why lawyers were in the school. One is that AA students are discriminated against (how was never spelled out by 13:41) and the other is that students have complaints about the work at the school (who was never spelled out by 15:51). So, yes, your outrage is misplaced.
Pretty simple, really.
Hey, 11:13: If you don't your random anonymous speculation to be confused with another poster's random anonymous speculation and that pile of random anonymous speculations then collectively stirring outrage then how about you don't post random anonymous speculation in the first place.
"Pretty simple, really."
Anonymous
05/27/2013 11:40
Subject: BASIS DC to open in 2012-2013
LOL.
Oh, so it's just random, uninformed speculation - and just more addition to the "random trolling" category. Thanks for clearing that up, 11:13.
Oh, so it's just random, uninformed speculation - and just more addition to the "random trolling" category. Thanks for clearing that up, 11:13.
Anonymous
05/27/2013 11:13
Subject: Re:BASIS DC to open in 2012-2013
Anonymous wrote:
One student who was interviewed saud ger griyo was asjed how they liked the school and what changes would they see happen.
The main complaint was that there were too many tests, and on those days with more than one test, the number of homeworks should be limited. Another complaint for this particular group was the pace of math, that the emphasis was about covering chapters, sometimes 2 in one day, instead of really learning the concept.
Huh, PP, it looks like 15:51 hasn't said a single thing about AA students. So it looks like your outrage is misplaced.
What they did say is that there are too many tests, too much homework, and an emphasis on "covering" math chapters, as opposed to teaching concepts thoroughly.
Pretty standard complaints for a test prep school.
No, the outrage isn't misplaced. Go back and look at what 13:41 posted, that poster said in clear terms this was about AA students supposedly being discriminated against. Are you calling that poster a liar?
I'm the poster you are quoting. No, I'm not calling anyone a liar. You're just making assumptions that 13:41 and 15:51 are the same person. Since this is an anonymous forum and those posters have not claimed to be the same person, your outrage is misplaced. Two posters can very easily have two different theories about why lawyers were in the school. One is that AA students are discriminated against (how was never spelled out by 13:41) and the other is that students have complaints about the work at the school (who was never spelled out by 15:51). So, yes, your outrage is misplaced.
Pretty simple, really.