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Anonymous wrote:Are you from SLHS, Westfield, or are you from Chantilly. Which one of the school is better than Oakton?

One thing for sure is that your kids is going to KAA and you are upset to hear that KAA can not be better than Oakton.

I think you are expecting a KAA to be the only top tier school in west part of fcps. The only way KAA can be the top tier is to become a magnet school.

I was asked why people have a problem with the Oakton families pitch, and the issue is you sound like elitists who think that the other kids being moved to the new school are going to be beneath you.

You do realize that there are people with kids at SLHS who wouldn't want to be moved to Oakton, right? Different people value different things. SLHS has a strong community and lots of kids have had a great experience there. The families are not worried about the rating and there are plenty of kids going to strong colleges. There are even people who love IB. The SLHS families I know worried about being moved are concerned about the lack of programs in the first bunch of years but mainly feel like they are a part of a strong community. They know that will build over time but the genuinely love their school.

The difference is when they talk about their school, they don't sound like elitists who are hoping and praying that their kids are not moved from the school to a school that is beneath them. Oakton families that don't want to move sound like they are going to be punished by having to go to a HS with kids from Oak Hill, Floris, and Coates. Great Falls families have the same problem. They sound like snobs. The argument that your kids should be at a school that is a 30-40 minute bus drive when there is a school 10 minutes away is kind of ridiculous. And your logic for why you should stay there is that the other schools aren't as good and you don't want to go there.

If you can't understand why that sounds bad, then I don't know what to tell you.

People want what they feel is best for their kids and that may require a longer bus ride.

Building resilience is awesome 👌

Way to grossly misuse the term resilience. Maybe talk to some people who grew up taking a long bus ride to Oakton. Many do not speak of the experience fondly. What parents want and what kids value are not always the same. I bet you don't even ask your kids what they would prefer. Grown adults of parents like this have some interesting things to say about their parents.

DP, my kids prefer to eat candy for dinner, so I’m not quite sure I see your point.

I am sad for your kids that you would equate these two things.

Someone failed the marshmallow test, perhaps?

Oh the irony that you are mentioning that test. I might know a thing or two about it. Vastly more than you. A long bus ride every day that cuts into a child's sleep, family, and homework time is in no way some sort of exercise in delayed gratification predicting later executive functioning skills.

Your kids dont do their homework on the bus? How inefficent! How do they ever have time for after school activities if they don't use their time efficently?

I informally polled my peers and the long bus ride to Oakton is 25 min on the east side of west ox in our neighborhood.

Guess what the Carson ride was...

30 min. Kaa is right next door so there goes your argument. Have a marshmallow !

I am sure the school board is looking at the entire Crossfield area, not just the one bus route from your neighborhood. Funny how no one has publicly said their transportation time to Oakton is shorter than Carson. Maybe because that’s not true for the vast majority?

No one seems to acknowledge the east side...

It's like a 90s east coast west coast rap feud.

Biggie Smalls R.I.P.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you from SLHS, Westfield, or are you from Chantilly. Which one of the school is better than Oakton?

One thing for sure is that your kids is going to KAA and you are upset to hear that KAA can not be better than Oakton.

I think you are expecting a KAA to be the only top tier school in west part of fcps. The only way KAA can be the top tier is to become a magnet school.

I was asked why people have a problem with the Oakton families pitch, and the issue is you sound like elitists who think that the other kids being moved to the new school are going to be beneath you.

You do realize that there are people with kids at SLHS who wouldn't want to be moved to Oakton, right? Different people value different things. SLHS has a strong community and lots of kids have had a great experience there. The families are not worried about the rating and there are plenty of kids going to strong colleges. There are even people who love IB. The SLHS families I know worried about being moved are concerned about the lack of programs in the first bunch of years but mainly feel like they are a part of a strong community. They know that will build over time but the genuinely love their school.

The difference is when they talk about their school, they don't sound like elitists who are hoping and praying that their kids are not moved from the school to a school that is beneath them. Oakton families that don't want to move sound like they are going to be punished by having to go to a HS with kids from Oak Hill, Floris, and Coates. Great Falls families have the same problem. They sound like snobs. The argument that your kids should be at a school that is a 30-40 minute bus drive when there is a school 10 minutes away is kind of ridiculous. And your logic for why you should stay there is that the other schools aren't as good and you don't want to go there.

If you can't understand why that sounds bad, then I don't know what to tell you.

People want what they feel is best for their kids and that may require a longer bus ride.

Building resilience is awesome 👌

Way to grossly misuse the term resilience. Maybe talk to some people who grew up taking a long bus ride to Oakton. Many do not speak of the experience fondly. What parents want and what kids value are not always the same. I bet you don't even ask your kids what they would prefer. Grown adults of parents like this have some interesting things to say about their parents.

DP, my kids prefer to eat candy for dinner, so I’m not quite sure I see your point.

I am sad for your kids that you would equate these two things.

Someone failed the marshmallow test, perhaps?

Oh the irony that you are mentioning that test. I might know a thing or two about it. Vastly more than you. A long bus ride every day that cuts into a child's sleep, family, and homework time is in no way some sort of exercise in delayed gratification predicting later executive functioning skills.

Your kids dont do their homework on the bus? How inefficent! How do they ever have time for after school activities if they don't use their time efficently?

I informally polled my peers and the long bus ride to Oakton is 25 min on the east side of west ox in our neighborhood.

Guess what the Carson ride was...

30 min. Kaa is right next door so there goes your argument. Have a marshmallow !

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Anonymous wrote:Are you from SLHS, Westfield, or are you from Chantilly. Which one of the school is better than Oakton?

One thing for sure is that your kids is going to KAA and you are upset to hear that KAA can not be better than Oakton.

I think you are expecting a KAA to be the only top tier school in west part of fcps. The only way KAA can be the top tier is to become a magnet school.

I was asked why people have a problem with the Oakton families pitch, and the issue is you sound like elitists who think that the other kids being moved to the new school are going to be beneath you.

You do realize that there are people with kids at SLHS who wouldn't want to be moved to Oakton, right? Different people value different things. SLHS has a strong community and lots of kids have had a great experience there. The families are not worried about the rating and there are plenty of kids going to strong colleges. There are even people who love IB. The SLHS families I know worried about being moved are concerned about the lack of programs in the first bunch of years but mainly feel like they are a part of a strong community. They know that will build over time but the genuinely love their school.

The difference is when they talk about their school, they don't sound like elitists who are hoping and praying that their kids are not moved from the school to a school that is beneath them. Oakton families that don't want to move sound like they are going to be punished by having to go to a HS with kids from Oak Hill, Floris, and Coates. Great Falls families have the same problem. They sound like snobs. The argument that your kids should be at a school that is a 30-40 minute bus drive when there is a school 10 minutes away is kind of ridiculous. And your logic for why you should stay there is that the other schools aren't as good and you don't want to go there.

If you can't understand why that sounds bad, then I don't know what to tell you.

People want what they feel is best for their kids and that may require a longer bus ride.

Building resilience is awesome 👌

Way to grossly misuse the term resilience. Maybe talk to some people who grew up taking a long bus ride to Oakton. Many do not speak of the experience fondly. What parents want and what kids value are not always the same. I bet you don't even ask your kids what they would prefer. Grown adults of parents like this have some interesting things to say about their parents.

DP, my kids prefer to eat candy for dinner, so I’m not quite sure I see your point.

I am sad for your kids that you would equate these two things.

Someone failed the marshmallow test, perhaps?

Oh the irony that you are mentioning that test. I might know a thing or two about it. Vastly more than you. A long bus ride every day that cuts into a child's sleep, family, and homework time is in no way some sort of exercise in delayed gratification predicting later executive functioning skills.

Your kids dont do their homework on the bus? How inefficent! How do they ever have time for after school activities if they don't use their time efficently?

I informally polled my peers and the long bus ride to Oakton is 25 min on the east side of west ox in our neighborhood.

Guess what the Carson ride was...

30 min. Kaa is right next door so there goes your argument. Have a marshmallow !

I am sure the school board is looking at the entire Crossfield area, not just the one bus route from your neighborhood. Funny how no one has publicly said their transportation time to Oakton is shorter than Carson. Maybe because that’s not true for the vast majority?

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Anonymous wrote:Are you from SLHS, Westfield, or are you from Chantilly. Which one of the school is better than Oakton?

One thing for sure is that your kids is going to KAA and you are upset to hear that KAA can not be better than Oakton.

I think you are expecting a KAA to be the only top tier school in west part of fcps. The only way KAA can be the top tier is to become a magnet school.

I was asked why people have a problem with the Oakton families pitch, and the issue is you sound like elitists who think that the other kids being moved to the new school are going to be beneath you.

You do realize that there are people with kids at SLHS who wouldn't want to be moved to Oakton, right? Different people value different things. SLHS has a strong community and lots of kids have had a great experience there. The families are not worried about the rating and there are plenty of kids going to strong colleges. There are even people who love IB. The SLHS families I know worried about being moved are concerned about the lack of programs in the first bunch of years but mainly feel like they are a part of a strong community. They know that will build over time but the genuinely love their school.

The difference is when they talk about their school, they don't sound like elitists who are hoping and praying that their kids are not moved from the school to a school that is beneath them. Oakton families that don't want to move sound like they are going to be punished by having to go to a HS with kids from Oak Hill, Floris, and Coates. Great Falls families have the same problem. They sound like snobs. The argument that your kids should be at a school that is a 30-40 minute bus drive when there is a school 10 minutes away is kind of ridiculous. And your logic for why you should stay there is that the other schools aren't as good and you don't want to go there.

If you can't understand why that sounds bad, then I don't know what to tell you.

People want what they feel is best for their kids and that may require a longer bus ride.

Building resilience is awesome 👌

Way to grossly misuse the term resilience. Maybe talk to some people who grew up taking a long bus ride to Oakton. Many do not speak of the experience fondly. What parents want and what kids value are not always the same. I bet you don't even ask your kids what they would prefer. Grown adults of parents like this have some interesting things to say about their parents.

DP, my kids prefer to eat candy for dinner, so I’m not quite sure I see your point.

I am sad for your kids that you would equate these two things.

Someone failed the marshmallow test, perhaps?

Oh the irony that you are mentioning that test. I might know a thing or two about it. Vastly more than you. A long bus ride every day that cuts into a child's sleep, family, and homework time is in no way some sort of exercise in delayed gratification predicting later executive functioning skills.

Your kids dont do their homework on the bus? How inefficent! How do they ever have time for after school activities if they don't use their time efficently?

I informally polled my peers and the long bus ride to Oakton is 25 min on the east side of west ox in our neighborhood.

Guess what the Carson ride was...

30 min. Kaa is right next door so there goes your argument. Have a marshmallow !

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Anonymous wrote:Are you from SLHS, Westfield, or are you from Chantilly. Which one of the school is better than Oakton?

One thing for sure is that your kids is going to KAA and you are upset to hear that KAA can not be better than Oakton.

I think you are expecting a KAA to be the only top tier school in west part of fcps. The only way KAA can be the top tier is to become a magnet school.

I was asked why people have a problem with the Oakton families pitch, and the issue is you sound like elitists who think that the other kids being moved to the new school are going to be beneath you.

You do realize that there are people with kids at SLHS who wouldn't want to be moved to Oakton, right? Different people value different things. SLHS has a strong community and lots of kids have had a great experience there. The families are not worried about the rating and there are plenty of kids going to strong colleges. There are even people who love IB. The SLHS families I know worried about being moved are concerned about the lack of programs in the first bunch of years but mainly feel like they are a part of a strong community. They know that will build over time but the genuinely love their school.

The difference is when they talk about their school, they don't sound like elitists who are hoping and praying that their kids are not moved from the school to a school that is beneath them. Oakton families that don't want to move sound like they are going to be punished by having to go to a HS with kids from Oak Hill, Floris, and Coates. Great Falls families have the same problem. They sound like snobs. The argument that your kids should be at a school that is a 30-40 minute bus drive when there is a school 10 minutes away is kind of ridiculous. And your logic for why you should stay there is that the other schools aren't as good and you don't want to go there.

If you can't understand why that sounds bad, then I don't know what to tell you.

People want what they feel is best for their kids and that may require a longer bus ride.

Building resilience is awesome 👌

Way to grossly misuse the term resilience. Maybe talk to some people who grew up taking a long bus ride to Oakton. Many do not speak of the experience fondly. What parents want and what kids value are not always the same. I bet you don't even ask your kids what they would prefer. Grown adults of parents like this have some interesting things to say about their parents.

DP, my kids prefer to eat candy for dinner, so I’m not quite sure I see your point.

I am sad for your kids that you would equate these two things.

Someone failed the marshmallow test, perhaps?

Oh the irony that you are mentioning that test. I might know a thing or two about it. Vastly more than you. A long bus ride every day that cuts into a child's sleep, family, and homework time is in no way some sort of exercise in delayed gratification predicting later executive functioning skills.

Your kids dont do their homework on the bus? How inefficent! How do they ever have time for after school activities if they don't use their time efficently?

I informally polled my peers and the long bus ride to Oakton is 25 min on the east side of west ox in our neighborhood.

Guess what the Carson ride was...

30 min. Kaa is right next door so there goes your argument. Have a marshmallow !

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Anonymous wrote:Are you from SLHS, Westfield, or are you from Chantilly. Which one of the school is better than Oakton?

One thing for sure is that your kids is going to KAA and you are upset to hear that KAA can not be better than Oakton.

I think you are expecting a KAA to be the only top tier school in west part of fcps. The only way KAA can be the top tier is to become a magnet school.

I was asked why people have a problem with the Oakton families pitch, and the issue is you sound like elitists who think that the other kids being moved to the new school are going to be beneath you.

You do realize that there are people with kids at SLHS who wouldn't want to be moved to Oakton, right? Different people value different things. SLHS has a strong community and lots of kids have had a great experience there. The families are not worried about the rating and there are plenty of kids going to strong colleges. There are even people who love IB. The SLHS families I know worried about being moved are concerned about the lack of programs in the first bunch of years but mainly feel like they are a part of a strong community. They know that will build over time but the genuinely love their school.

The difference is when they talk about their school, they don't sound like elitists who are hoping and praying that their kids are not moved from the school to a school that is beneath them. Oakton families that don't want to move sound like they are going to be punished by having to go to a HS with kids from Oak Hill, Floris, and Coates. Great Falls families have the same problem. They sound like snobs. The argument that your kids should be at a school that is a 30-40 minute bus drive when there is a school 10 minutes away is kind of ridiculous. And your logic for why you should stay there is that the other schools aren't as good and you don't want to go there.

If you can't understand why that sounds bad, then I don't know what to tell you.

People want what they feel is best for their kids and that may require a longer bus ride.

Building resilience is awesome 👌

Way to grossly misuse the term resilience. Maybe talk to some people who grew up taking a long bus ride to Oakton. Many do not speak of the experience fondly. What parents want and what kids value are not always the same. I bet you don't even ask your kids what they would prefer. Grown adults of parents like this have some interesting things to say about their parents.

DP, my kids prefer to eat candy for dinner, so I’m not quite sure I see your point.

I am sad for your kids that you would equate these two things.

Someone failed the marshmallow test, perhaps?

Oh the irony that you are mentioning that test. I might know a thing or two about it. Vastly more than you. A long bus ride every day that cuts into a child's sleep, family, and homework time is in no way some sort of exercise in delayed gratification predicting later executive functioning skills.

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Anonymous wrote:Just curious.

I get why some Crossfield parents want to stay at Oakton despite the long commute.

I also get why some other Crossfield parents who want to move are upset at them as they'd rather move to KAA and cut the long commute.

What I don’t understand is why some non Crossfield parents are upset at the Crossfield parents who fight to stay.

Is it because of some “equity” issue? Or is it because their kids are going to KAA and they want to make sure wealthy Crossfield kids join them?

Somebody mentioned tax dollars used for longer bus rides, but that just seems like a really weak reason.

It's because they are lying about a lot of things and claiming that they represent the Crossfield community when in reality most of them (not all, but most) are people with older kids already at Oakton or about to start Oakton and they really don't represent the families with younger kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you from SLHS, Westfield, or are you from Chantilly. Which one of the school is better than Oakton?

One thing for sure is that your kids is going to KAA and you are upset to hear that KAA can not be better than Oakton.

I think you are expecting a KAA to be the only top tier school in west part of fcps. The only way KAA can be the top tier is to become a magnet school.

I was asked why people have a problem with the Oakton families pitch, and the issue is you sound like elitists who think that the other kids being moved to the new school are going to be beneath you.

You do realize that there are people with kids at SLHS who wouldn't want to be moved to Oakton, right? Different people value different things. SLHS has a strong community and lots of kids have had a great experience there. The families are not worried about the rating and there are plenty of kids going to strong colleges. There are even people who love IB. The SLHS families I know worried about being moved are concerned about the lack of programs in the first bunch of years but mainly feel like they are a part of a strong community. They know that will build over time but the genuinely love their school.

The difference is when they talk about their school, they don't sound like elitists who are hoping and praying that their kids are not moved from the school to a school that is beneath them. Oakton families that don't want to move sound like they are going to be punished by having to go to a HS with kids from Oak Hill, Floris, and Coates. Great Falls families have the same problem. They sound like snobs. The argument that your kids should be at a school that is a 30-40 minute bus drive when there is a school 10 minutes away is kind of ridiculous. And your logic for why you should stay there is that the other schools aren't as good and you don't want to go there.

If you can't understand why that sounds bad, then I don't know what to tell you.

Great Falls families sound like snobs because they don’t want their kids to go to Herndon High which had a student recently murdered in a drive-by after receiving death threats at Herndon High from fellow students?

Call me crazy, but that doesn’t sound snobby to me. Sounds like great falls families want their kids to be safe from violence.

There's something exploitative about wealthy Great Falls families who are almost exclusively White and Asian invoking the recent killing of a Hispanic student from Herndon, which did not occur at Herndon, as a basis to avoid HHS.

They had other arguments before this tragedy. They'll have other arguments in the future when this incident has receded from public attention. They know these incidents at Herndon and other schools involve low-income Hispanic kids and these incidents, while horrifying, don't pose a safety threat to their own children, but they don't care.

An Oakton graduate killed two Oakton students due to his reckless driving, but we don't hear parents citing that as a reason why their kids shouldn't attend Oakton. A Langley graduate shot and killed his best friend, also a Langley graduate, a few years ago, and another Langley graduate who apparently was high on drugs was shot and killed by Park Police a few years ago, but we don't hear parents citing that as a reason why their kids shouldn't attend Langley. But if those same incidents had involved Herndon students, the Great Falls folks would be citing them obsessively on a daily basis as justification for why they should never be reassigned to Herndon.

In any event, their clock is ticking given the upcoming boundary changes that will move kids into Cooper and Langley.

That ticking clock is up against the ticking clock of significant residential developments that have broken ground in and around the town of Herndon. It actually seems like one of the reasons they might not have been too keen to move anyone into Herndon high this round.

The problem is that, for every new development in or around the Town of Herndon, there are twice as many in the Marshall and McLean districts and FCPS has no plans to expand either of those schools. Plus some of the new development planned in the McLean-zoned area will get moved to Langley next January.

So there may be several ticking clocks, but the alarm won't go off first in the Town of Herndon.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you from SLHS, Westfield, or are you from Chantilly. Which one of the school is better than Oakton?

One thing for sure is that your kids is going to KAA and you are upset to hear that KAA can not be better than Oakton.

I think you are expecting a KAA to be the only top tier school in west part of fcps. The only way KAA can be the top tier is to become a magnet school.

I was asked why people have a problem with the Oakton families pitch, and the issue is you sound like elitists who think that the other kids being moved to the new school are going to be beneath you.

You do realize that there are people with kids at SLHS who wouldn't want to be moved to Oakton, right? Different people value different things. SLHS has a strong community and lots of kids have had a great experience there. The families are not worried about the rating and there are plenty of kids going to strong colleges. There are even people who love IB. The SLHS families I know worried about being moved are concerned about the lack of programs in the first bunch of years but mainly feel like they are a part of a strong community. They know that will build over time but the genuinely love their school.

The difference is when they talk about their school, they don't sound like elitists who are hoping and praying that their kids are not moved from the school to a school that is beneath them. Oakton families that don't want to move sound like they are going to be punished by having to go to a HS with kids from Oak Hill, Floris, and Coates. Great Falls families have the same problem. They sound like snobs. The argument that your kids should be at a school that is a 30-40 minute bus drive when there is a school 10 minutes away is kind of ridiculous. And your logic for why you should stay there is that the other schools aren't as good and you don't want to go there.

If you can't understand why that sounds bad, then I don't know what to tell you.

Great Falls families sound like snobs because they don’t want their kids to go to Herndon High which had a student recently murdered in a drive-by after receiving death threats at Herndon High from fellow students?

Call me crazy, but that doesn’t sound snobby to me. Sounds like great falls families want their kids to be safe from violence.

There's something exploitative about wealthy Great Falls families who are almost exclusively White and Asian invoking the recent killing of a Hispanic student from Herndon, which did not occur at Herndon, as a basis to avoid HHS.

They had other arguments before this tragedy. They'll have other arguments in the future when this incident has receded from public attention. They know these incidents at Herndon and other schools involve low-income Hispanic kids and these incidents, while horrifying, don't pose a safety threat to their own children, but they don't care.

An Oakton graduate killed two Oakton students due to his reckless driving, but we don't hear parents citing that as a reason why their kids shouldn't attend Oakton. A Langley graduate shot and killed his best friend, also a Langley graduate, a few years ago, and another Langley graduate who apparently was high on drugs was shot and killed by Park Police a few years ago, but we don't hear parents citing that as a reason why their kids shouldn't attend Langley. But if those same incidents had involved Herndon students, the Great Falls folks would be citing them obsessively on a daily basis as justification for why they should never be reassigned to Herndon.

In any event, their clock is ticking given the upcoming boundary changes that will move kids into Cooper and Langley.

That ticking clock is up against the ticking clock of significant residential developments that have broken ground in and around the town of Herndon. It actually seems like one of the reasons they might not have been too keen to move anyone into Herndon high this round.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you from SLHS, Westfield, or are you from Chantilly. Which one of the school is better than Oakton?

One thing for sure is that your kids is going to KAA and you are upset to hear that KAA can not be better than Oakton.

I think you are expecting a KAA to be the only top tier school in west part of fcps. The only way KAA can be the top tier is to become a magnet school.

I was asked why people have a problem with the Oakton families pitch, and the issue is you sound like elitists who think that the other kids being moved to the new school are going to be beneath you.

You do realize that there are people with kids at SLHS who wouldn't want to be moved to Oakton, right? Different people value different things. SLHS has a strong community and lots of kids have had a great experience there. The families are not worried about the rating and there are plenty of kids going to strong colleges. There are even people who love IB. The SLHS families I know worried about being moved are concerned about the lack of programs in the first bunch of years but mainly feel like they are a part of a strong community. They know that will build over time but the genuinely love their school.

The difference is when they talk about their school, they don't sound like elitists who are hoping and praying that their kids are not moved from the school to a school that is beneath them. Oakton families that don't want to move sound like they are going to be punished by having to go to a HS with kids from Oak Hill, Floris, and Coates. Great Falls families have the same problem. They sound like snobs. The argument that your kids should be at a school that is a 30-40 minute bus drive when there is a school 10 minutes away is kind of ridiculous. And your logic for why you should stay there is that the other schools aren't as good and you don't want to go there.

If you can't understand why that sounds bad, then I don't know what to tell you.

Great Falls families sound like snobs because they don’t want their kids to go to Herndon High which had a student recently murdered in a drive-by after receiving death threats at Herndon High from fellow students?

Call me crazy, but that doesn’t sound snobby to me. Sounds like great falls families want their kids to be safe from violence.

There's something exploitative about wealthy Great Falls families who are almost exclusively White and Asian invoking the recent killing of a Hispanic student from Herndon, which did not occur at Herndon, as a basis to avoid HHS.

They had other arguments before this tragedy. They'll have other arguments in the future when this incident has receded from public attention. They know these incidents at Herndon and other schools involve low-income Hispanic kids and these incidents, while horrifying, don't pose a safety threat to their own children, but they don't care.

An Oakton graduate killed two Oakton students due to his reckless driving, but we don't hear parents citing that as a reason why their kids shouldn't attend Oakton. A Langley graduate shot and killed his best friend, also a Langley graduate, a few years ago, and another Langley graduate who apparently was high on drugs was shot and killed by Park Police a few years ago, but we don't hear parents citing that as a reason why their kids shouldn't attend Langley. But if those same incidents had involved Herndon students, the Great Falls folks would be citing them obsessively on a daily basis as justification for why they should never be reassigned to Herndon.

In any event, their clock is ticking given the upcoming boundary changes that will move kids into Cooper and Langley.

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Anonymous wrote:Just curious.

I get why some Crossfield parents want to stay at Oakton despite the long commute.

I also get why some other Crossfield parents who want to move are upset at them as they'd rather move to KAA and cut the long commute.

What I don’t understand is why some non Crossfield parents are upset at the Crossfield parents who fight to stay.

Is it because of some “equity” issue? Or is it because their kids are going to KAA and they want to make sure wealthy Crossfield kids join them?

Somebody mentioned tax dollars used for longer bus rides, but that just seems like a really weak reason.

It's because they are lying about a lot of things and claiming that they represent the Crossfield community when in reality most of them (not all, but most) are people with older kids already at Oakton or about to start Oakton and they really don't represent the families with younger kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you from SLHS, Westfield, or are you from Chantilly. Which one of the school is better than Oakton?

One thing for sure is that your kids is going to KAA and you are upset to hear that KAA can not be better than Oakton.

I think you are expecting a KAA to be the only top tier school in west part of fcps. The only way KAA can be the top tier is to become a magnet school.

I was asked why people have a problem with the Oakton families pitch, and the issue is you sound like elitists who think that the other kids being moved to the new school are going to be beneath you.

You do realize that there are people with kids at SLHS who wouldn't want to be moved to Oakton, right? Different people value different things. SLHS has a strong community and lots of kids have had a great experience there. The families are not worried about the rating and there are plenty of kids going to strong colleges. There are even people who love IB. The SLHS families I know worried about being moved are concerned about the lack of programs in the first bunch of years but mainly feel like they are a part of a strong community. They know that will build over time but the genuinely love their school.

The difference is when they talk about their school, they don't sound like elitists who are hoping and praying that their kids are not moved from the school to a school that is beneath them. Oakton families that don't want to move sound like they are going to be punished by having to go to a HS with kids from Oak Hill, Floris, and Coates. Great Falls families have the same problem. They sound like snobs. The argument that your kids should be at a school that is a 30-40 minute bus drive when there is a school 10 minutes away is kind of ridiculous. And your logic for why you should stay there is that the other schools aren't as good and you don't want to go there.

If you can't understand why that sounds bad, then I don't know what to tell you.

Great Falls families sound like snobs because they don’t want their kids to go to Herndon High which had a student recently murdered in a drive-by after receiving death threats at Herndon High from fellow students?

Call me crazy, but that doesn’t sound snobby to me. Sounds like great falls families want their kids to be safe from violence.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you from SLHS, Westfield, or are you from Chantilly. Which one of the school is better than Oakton?

One thing for sure is that your kids is going to KAA and you are upset to hear that KAA can not be better than Oakton.

I think you are expecting a KAA to be the only top tier school in west part of fcps. The only way KAA can be the top tier is to become a magnet school.

I was asked why people have a problem with the Oakton families pitch, and the issue is you sound like elitists who think that the other kids being moved to the new school are going to be beneath you.

You do realize that there are people with kids at SLHS who wouldn't want to be moved to Oakton, right? Different people value different things. SLHS has a strong community and lots of kids have had a great experience there. The families are not worried about the rating and there are plenty of kids going to strong colleges. There are even people who love IB. The SLHS families I know worried about being moved are concerned about the lack of programs in the first bunch of years but mainly feel like they are a part of a strong community. They know that will build over time but the genuinely love their school.

The difference is when they talk about their school, they don't sound like elitists who are hoping and praying that their kids are not moved from the school to a school that is beneath them. Oakton families that don't want to move sound like they are going to be punished by having to go to a HS with kids from Oak Hill, Floris, and Coates. Great Falls families have the same problem. They sound like snobs. The argument that your kids should be at a school that is a 30-40 minute bus drive when there is a school 10 minutes away is kind of ridiculous. And your logic for why you should stay there is that the other schools aren't as good and you don't want to go there.

If you can't understand why that sounds bad, then I don't know what to tell you.

Great Falls families sound like snobs because they don’t want their kids to go to Herndon High which had a student recently murdered in a drive-by after receiving death threats at Herndon High from fellow students?

Call me crazy, but that doesn’t sound snobby to me. Sounds like great falls families want their kids to be safe from violence.

Franklin Farm families and neighborhoos families that want to leave Oakton:

Please also reconsider what is best for your kids: convenience for adults. Vs. Safety for kids

Sigh, if they want to move our kids around like pawns without regard to their mental health, they’ll at least have to get a handle on the safety issues that are a real concern at many of the high schools.

It seems like there is so much grandfathering/phasing and opting in/out going on that the "move our kids around like pawns" argument falls flat anymore. Seems like most changes are reassignments of where kids will go in the future at this point. And seriously, what magic place do you come from where no schools change boundaries ever? How do you expect adjustments to ever be made without moving anyone?

Please volunteer your kid to go to a school with recent death threats and a drive-by. We’ll pass, thank you, even if it’ll only be in the future that kids will be forced to go there.

The drive by didn’t occur at the school you idiot.

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Anonymous wrote:Just curious.

I get why some Crossfield parents want to stay at Oakton despite the long commute.

I also get why some other Crossfield parents who want to move are upset at them as they'd rather move to KAA and cut the long commute.

What I don’t understand is why some non Crossfield parents are upset at the Crossfield parents who fight to stay.

Is it because of some “equity” issue? Or is it because their kids are going to KAA and they want to make sure wealthy Crossfield kids join them?

Somebody mentioned tax dollars used for longer bus rides, but that just seems like a really weak reason.

I doubt that the school board will create a split feeder so the people who are loudly fighting to stay at Oakton are effectively impacting the outcome of the families who want to move. I think that the bigger issue is that the Oakton families are claiming to speak for the majority and it is not clear that they do.

As a non-Crossfield family, I don't care. The argument that Oakton is so amazing, and the new school is not going to be good enough is off putting. There is a difference in saying "We don't like the lack of activities at a brand-new school and want to opt out while that is happening" and saying "The new school will never be good enough because Oakton is so awesome", which labels the new school as inferior before it even opens. To be frank, most of the arguments have been kind of elitist.

Makes sense.

To be honest, I’d rather let these elitist people stay at Oakton so that I don’t have to see them at the new school.

I couldn't agree more.

Anonymous wrote:Just curious.

I get why some Crossfield parents want to stay at Oakton despite the long commute.

I also get why some other Crossfield parents who want to move are upset at them as they'd rather move to KAA and cut the long commute.

What I don’t understand is why some non Crossfield parents are upset at the Crossfield parents who fight to stay.

Is it because of some “equity” issue? Or is it because their kids are going to KAA and they want to make sure wealthy Crossfield kids join them?

Somebody mentioned tax dollars used for longer bus rides, but that just seems like a really weak reason.