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Anonymous wrote:St Croix, USVI. ugh, never again. Really exposes you to the underbelly and dark side of these Caribbean island “paradises”

Could you elaborate? These vague posts sucks.

Not the PP, but all the carribean islands are in despair except for the resorts. The government has abandoned it's people who live in poverty, crime is rampant and the police officers don't care and are not there to help you, there are NO women walking around that I saw anywhere/any time, drugs, sex trafficking, bed bugs. It all sucks.

Anonymous wrote:We haven't been able to afford international travel- but I've kind of enjoyed all of the places we've visited in the US. Everywhere is a little different with interesting regional and cultural differences. I loved Santa Fe, Northern Michigan, Lake Tahoe, and Hawaii. I like the museums in the bigger cities- Dallas has some amazing art museums, and I like the Walker in Minneapolis. I agree that Denver wasn't great- crowded.
Once we're empty nesters, for starters, I want to go to Montreal, Paris (just because I've never been), Barcelona, Italy, Scotland, Ireland, etc. I've also heard that Portugal is really nice.

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Anonymous wrote:People rave about Turkey...but having spent time in Armenia, I can't get past the fact that Turkey committed attempted genocide against Armenia and still won't admit it.

https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/ref/timestopics/topics_armeniangenocide.html?onwardjourney=584162_v1

I just can't get past that.

Does anyone else have trouble visiting a country for social justice reasons?

This is interesting. I am aware of the attempted genocide, but it was 100 years ago. Literally everyone who participated in it or committed it is dead, the government has turned over many times, so I view it as an unsavory piece of history. If you started disqualifying countries for unsavory historical episodes there would be nowhere to visit.

That said, there are certain (current) regimes that I wouldn’t support with my tourist dollars, even if my safety were guaranteed. Putin’s Russia, North Korea, and China, for example.

But it’s kind of like holocaust denial. Imagine visiting Germany and having everyone deny that the holocaust existed, instead insisting that it was just a bureaucratic snafu or something. It’s about a country committing genocide and never taking any sort of moral responsibility for having done so. Those who do not learn from their mistakes, etc.

Exactly. It is one thing fur current citizens to call out the sins of their forefathers. It is quite another to glorify or deny their actions (see Civil War monuments).

Yes because civil war generals are definitely the same thing as Nazi war criminals. Not.

I would put them in pretty similar categories. I don’t know that the institution of slavery much less violent, horrific, and evil than the Third Reich.

Back to the question in hand, I visited Turkey recently and their rampant blind nationalism is pretty offensive set against what they did to the Greeks, Armenians and Kurds. It definitely put me off going again.

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Anonymous wrote:People rave about Turkey...but having spent time in Armenia, I can't get past the fact that Turkey committed attempted genocide against Armenia and still won't admit it.

https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/ref/timestopics/topics_armeniangenocide.html?onwardjourney=584162_v1

I just can't get past that.

Does anyone else have trouble visiting a country for social justice reasons?

I also love Turkey. But the US has never made reparations for slavery so its not like we can throw stones. We still literally have reservations when Native Americans live in poverty. Who are we to judge?

The difference is that the current human rights situation in Turkey is still very poor and gets worse. No freedom of expression, opponents of the regime and journalists end up in prison, LGBTI* and refugee rights are systematically violated.

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Anonymous wrote:Miami, NOLA, Oahu…. never again on my own time and money

Not a fan of Miami. While you have to be vigilant in NOLA, I love the city.

Anonymous wrote:We haven't been able to afford international travel- but I've kind of enjoyed all of the places we've visited in the US. Everywhere is a little different with interesting regional and cultural differences. I loved Santa Fe, Northern Michigan, Lake Tahoe, and Hawaii. I like the museums in the bigger cities- Dallas has some amazing art museums, and I like the Walker in Minneapolis. I agree that Denver wasn't great- crowded.
Once we're empty nesters, for starters, I want to go to Montreal, Paris (just because I've never been), Barcelona, Italy, Scotland, Ireland, etc. I've also heard that Portugal is really nice.

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Anonymous wrote:People rave about Turkey...but having spent time in Armenia, I can't get past the fact that Turkey committed attempted genocide against Armenia and still won't admit it.

https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/ref/timestopics/topics_armeniangenocide.html?onwardjourney=584162_v1

I just can't get past that.

Does anyone else have trouble visiting a country for social justice reasons?

This is interesting. I am aware of the attempted genocide, but it was 100 years ago. Literally everyone who participated in it or committed it is dead, the government has turned over many times, so I view it as an unsavory piece of history. If you started disqualifying countries for unsavory historical episodes there would be nowhere to visit.

That said, there are certain (current) regimes that I wouldn’t support with my tourist dollars, even if my safety were guaranteed. Putin’s Russia, North Korea, and China, for example.

But it’s kind of like holocaust denial. Imagine visiting Germany and having everyone deny that the holocaust existed, instead insisting that it was just a bureaucratic snafu or something. It’s about a country committing genocide and never taking any sort of moral responsibility for having done so. Those who do not learn from their mistakes, etc.

Exactly. It is one thing fur current citizens to call out the sins of their forefathers. It is quite another to glorify or deny their actions (see Civil War monuments).

Yes because civil war generals are definitely the same thing as Nazi war criminals. Not.

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Anonymous wrote:People rave about Turkey...but having spent time in Armenia, I can't get past the fact that Turkey committed attempted genocide against Armenia and still won't admit it.

https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/ref/timestopics/topics_armeniangenocide.html?onwardjourney=584162_v1

I just can't get past that.

Does anyone else have trouble visiting a country for social justice reasons?

This is interesting. I am aware of the attempted genocide, but it was 100 years ago. Literally everyone who participated in it or committed it is dead, the government has turned over many times, so I view it as an unsavory piece of history. If you started disqualifying countries for unsavory historical episodes there would be nowhere to visit.

That said, there are certain (current) regimes that I wouldn’t support with my tourist dollars, even if my safety were guaranteed. Putin’s Russia, North Korea, and China, for example.

But it’s kind of like holocaust denial. Imagine visiting Germany and having everyone deny that the holocaust existed, instead insisting that it was just a bureaucratic snafu or something. It’s about a country committing genocide and never taking any sort of moral responsibility for having done so. Those who do not learn from their mistakes, etc.

Exactly. It is one thing fur current citizens to call out the sins of their forefathers. It is quite another to glorify or deny their actions (see Civil War monuments).

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Anonymous wrote:London. Hated it.

Same. Also Manchester.
So many locals, even st the hotel, were rude to us.

British people are incredibly rude. Either they are polite passive aggressive rude thinking they're fooling you, or they are outwardly rude.

Anonymous wrote:I hate Las Vegas. I’ve been multiple times for work conferences. I can’t imagine going for fun.

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Anonymous wrote:St Croix, USVI. ugh, never again. Really exposes you to the underbelly and dark side of these Caribbean island “paradises”

Could you elaborate? These vague posts sucks.

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Anonymous wrote:London. Hated it.

Same. Also Manchester.
So many locals, even st the hotel, were rude to us.