Anonymous
Post 02/06/2024 21:32     Subject: Re:We need massively stepped up criminal enforcement and convictions in DC

Anonymous wrote:This is an interesting and important thread re: the money behind all of this



Nah nah nah nah nah
Who cares?
People HATE Allen,
Get it?
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2024 21:21     Subject: Re:We need massively stepped up criminal enforcement and convictions in DC

Anonymous wrote:"Good intentions" won't save you either, nor will being in a group.

https://catholicreview.org/beloved-young-capuchin-franciscan-volunteer-shot-dead-in-washington/


I can't live here anymore.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2024 20:55     Subject: Re:We need massively stepped up criminal enforcement and convictions in DC

This is an interesting and important thread re: the money behind all of this

Anonymous
Post 02/06/2024 12:59     Subject: We need massively stepped up criminal enforcement and convictions in DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The point is this: Council is unaccountable. If they are sued they will suffer, spend money, not have time to focus on how to destroy the city and ultimately be politically radioactive and hopefully personally bankrupt. They don’t have immunity.

The most important outcome is that people who then want to be on the Council will know they have to be serious people who listen to and work for the law abiding citizens instead of cozying up to child rapists and murderers to get political points for the next primary.

While it is harder to sue them, they absolutely can be sued and certainly can be bankrupted regardless of the outcome.



Have at it then, PP. Godspeed!


Luckily no one is dead yet over here. Ward 6 on the other hand.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2024 12:24     Subject: Re:We need massively stepped up criminal enforcement and convictions in DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The activist groups are in a frenzy



even CA has pulled back on the nonsense so they are doubling down in DC

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/san-francisco-s-democratic-mayor-london-breed-pushes-for-adults-to-be-screened-for-drug-addiction-before-they-can-get-700-a-month-welfare-payments-amid-city-s-spiraling-fentanyl-crisis/

Lives will be saved in CA. In DC, the dead and wounded are merely levers for grifters to wallow at the trough. The more human misery and death, the more we need dark money groups to "save us." And Breed is not falling for the "we need to implement DSA agenda FIRST" scripts either. Carrot and stick have been time tested throughout human history.


The DC council voted today on a “crime bill” which - if passed - will take baby-steps toward restoring the prior criminal Justice laws DC once had on the books..

Anyone want to bet Allen votes AGAINST the bill today?


He will vote for it, actually. He voted for it in committee in a much stronger form. He voted for her June bill without grandstanding.

It's Frumin who will pontificate and waffle today. Several provisions of the bill have significantly lessened the impact. REQUIRING that the Council nominate a criminal to the Sentencing Commission in perpetuity is beyond the pale. Dropping the provision requiring judges to note reasons for pretrial release is very disappointing. The activists do not want that number of violent predators released to be curtailed.


Yup. Chaz knows how to do his dirt in the dark. He knows his tenure as the chair of the public safety committee set the stage for where we are today and is a huge liability for him politically. He has to publicly support anti-crime measures, like on the original committee vote. Then he’ll work behind the scenes with the radical wing of the council to get amendments that have enough votes to take the teeth out of anything meaningful. That way he can have his cake and eat it too.

He’s quite cunning.


That is not the C-word I would normally call him. But yeah - it fits.

He will water down this bill with amendments until it changes nothing.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2024 12:14     Subject: Re:We need massively stepped up criminal enforcement and convictions in DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The activist groups are in a frenzy



even CA has pulled back on the nonsense so they are doubling down in DC

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/san-francisco-s-democratic-mayor-london-breed-pushes-for-adults-to-be-screened-for-drug-addiction-before-they-can-get-700-a-month-welfare-payments-amid-city-s-spiraling-fentanyl-crisis/

Lives will be saved in CA. In DC, the dead and wounded are merely levers for grifters to wallow at the trough. The more human misery and death, the more we need dark money groups to "save us." And Breed is not falling for the "we need to implement DSA agenda FIRST" scripts either. Carrot and stick have been time tested throughout human history.


The DC council voted today on a “crime bill” which - if passed - will take baby-steps toward restoring the prior criminal Justice laws DC once had on the books..

Anyone want to bet Allen votes AGAINST the bill today?


He will vote for it, actually. He voted for it in committee in a much stronger form. He voted for her June bill without grandstanding.

It's Frumin who will pontificate and waffle today. Several provisions of the bill have significantly lessened the impact. REQUIRING that the Council nominate a criminal to the Sentencing Commission in perpetuity is beyond the pale. Dropping the provision requiring judges to note reasons for pretrial release is very disappointing. The activists do not want that number of violent predators released to be curtailed.


Yup. Chaz knows how to do his dirt in the dark. He knows his tenure as the chair of the public safety committee set the stage for where we are today and is a huge liability for him politically. He has to publicly support anti-crime measures, like on the original committee vote. Then he’ll work behind the scenes with the radical wing of the council to get amendments that have enough votes to take the teeth out of anything meaningful. That way he can have his cake and eat it too.

He’s quite cunning.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2024 12:00     Subject: We need massively stepped up criminal enforcement and convictions in DC

Anonymous wrote:The point is this: Council is unaccountable. If they are sued they will suffer, spend money, not have time to focus on how to destroy the city and ultimately be politically radioactive and hopefully personally bankrupt. They don’t have immunity.

The most important outcome is that people who then want to be on the Council will know they have to be serious people who listen to and work for the law abiding citizens instead of cozying up to child rapists and murderers to get political points for the next primary.

While it is harder to sue them, they absolutely can be sued and certainly can be bankrupted regardless of the outcome.



Have at it then, PP. Godspeed!
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2024 11:58     Subject: Re:We need massively stepped up criminal enforcement and convictions in DC

For those who think DC has reached a floor or turning point, a reality check

Anonymous
Post 02/06/2024 11:16     Subject: Re:We need massively stepped up criminal enforcement and convictions in DC

Anonymous wrote:This is not a sustainable way to live.



When the USA begged the Council to "stop the revolving door" and to send a sign with their appointment to the Sentencing Commission they made it LAW that a criminal MUST be appointed to the Sentencing Commission. Their contempt for the rule of law, for public safety or for the norms of an orderly society, if anything, is accelerating.

Violent daytime crime in the central business district will just accelerate the fiscal spiral. Soon, there will just be idiots too into the Kool aid to act in own interest and those they support directly as crime victims or indirectly through taxes. The dregs of other cities and states will flock here, as criminals in MD and VA head directly into DC.

This was a defining moment for DC Council and instead, they have genuflected to dark money, even mockingly refusing to name those groups. Mendo spoke openly of their influence.

A financial control board is all but inevitable as the CRE revenue goes off a cliff. Shame they did not act to try to hold tourist revenue or middle class residents. Who wants to risk being the next Mike Gill? Or the man driving through Dupont at 4pm who is alive, but paralyzed? Who wants to risk a life altering TBI when beat or pistol whipped despite being a "cooperative" victim? Happened right in front of Kramer books at rush hour? Daytime and people around won't save you or yours. And what will have made it worth it?


This!
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2024 11:15     Subject: We need massively stepped up criminal enforcement and convictions in DC

I learned it from you: performative this or that. Well let’s go with a performative lawsuit. I will enjoy it! Every tax dollar of mine going to settle is a pleasure after a nice long drawn out suit and all the crap that comes out in the discovery. Cannot wait.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2024 11:14     Subject: We need massively stepped up criminal enforcement and convictions in DC

The point is this: Council is unaccountable. If they are sued they will suffer, spend money, not have time to focus on how to destroy the city and ultimately be politically radioactive and hopefully personally bankrupt. They don’t have immunity.

The most important outcome is that people who then want to be on the Council will know they have to be serious people who listen to and work for the law abiding citizens instead of cozying up to child rapists and murderers to get political points for the next primary.

While it is harder to sue them, they absolutely can be sued and certainly can be bankrupted regardless of the outcome.

Anonymous
Post 02/06/2024 11:09     Subject: We need massively stepped up criminal enforcement and convictions in DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think citizens should bring a lawsuit against individual council members. Mike Gill’s wife could be the lead Plaintiff.

They won’t listen until it hurts. Once they’re sued and the legal bills mount, this will never ever happen again. People who run for Councik will learn to be serious people.


This is dumb. Can I start personally suing Trump for cutting taxes on corporations?

Elected officials acting within "the outer perimeter" of their duties have absolute immunity in the US:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_immunity


Not DC Council. That’s the beauty of it. They sue the mayor all the time. Personally it doesn’t matter what the outcome is — it will empty their accounts, tie up their time and end them. It has legs


No, settlements come out of tax revenue.


Better that than Allen’s wife’s “non profit”. But the settlement is not the ultimate destination. It’s about the journey, which hopefully sends Allen right back to Alabama
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2024 11:06     Subject: Re:We need massively stepped up criminal enforcement and convictions in DC

"Good intentions" won't save you either, nor will being in a group.

https://catholicreview.org/beloved-young-capuchin-franciscan-volunteer-shot-dead-in-washington/
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2024 11:04     Subject: Re:We need massively stepped up criminal enforcement and convictions in DC

This is not a sustainable way to live.



When the USA begged the Council to "stop the revolving door" and to send a sign with their appointment to the Sentencing Commission they made it LAW that a criminal MUST be appointed to the Sentencing Commission. Their contempt for the rule of law, for public safety or for the norms of an orderly society, if anything, is accelerating.

Violent daytime crime in the central business district will just accelerate the fiscal spiral. Soon, there will just be idiots too into the Kool aid to act in own interest and those they support directly as crime victims or indirectly through taxes. The dregs of other cities and states will flock here, as criminals in MD and VA head directly into DC.

This was a defining moment for DC Council and instead, they have genuflected to dark money, even mockingly refusing to name those groups. Mendo spoke openly of their influence.

A financial control board is all but inevitable as the CRE revenue goes off a cliff. Shame they did not act to try to hold tourist revenue or middle class residents. Who wants to risk being the next Mike Gill? Or the man driving through Dupont at 4pm who is alive, but paralyzed? Who wants to risk a life altering TBI when beat or pistol whipped despite being a "cooperative" victim? Happened right in front of Kramer books at rush hour? Daytime and people around won't save you or yours. And what will have made it worth it?
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2024 10:56     Subject: We need massively stepped up criminal enforcement and convictions in DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think citizens should bring a lawsuit against individual council members. Mike Gill’s wife could be the lead Plaintiff.

They won’t listen until it hurts. Once they’re sued and the legal bills mount, this will never ever happen again. People who run for Councik will learn to be serious people.


This is dumb. Can I start personally suing Trump for cutting taxes on corporations?

Elected officials acting within "the outer perimeter" of their duties have absolute immunity in the US:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_immunity


Not DC Council. That’s the beauty of it. They sue the mayor all the time. Personally it doesn’t matter what the outcome is — it will empty their accounts, tie up their time and end them. It has legs


No, settlements come out of tax revenue.