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Anonymous wrote:I’m curious what people here would have done differently. Your kids classmate is struggling with grades and a place to live. You have a big house so you offer him a room and get him a tutor. You encourage and help him go to your alma Mater.

Most people would not bother to do any of that. Now many people think they only did that to get publicity, or maybe to recruit a great football player to their alma mater. But what would any of us have done? What would have had s different outcome for Oher that he would be entitled to compensation for? If he had played for Tennessee would he have had a better career in the nfl? A better education?

Let’s say they told the author and the studio no you can’t use our names. Then the author and the studio slightly change the names and plot and say ‘based on a true story.’ There are no royalties but the story is out there. Is that a better outcome for him?

Leigh Anne’s subsequent crusade/evangelism about fostering/adoption and generally how great it feels to be rich and Christian is pretty ridiculous. But it’s not gotten her a talk show, church, or even significant profits, and it’s her version of her lived life.

Let’s say they had formally adopted michael as an adult. He turns 40, retires from the NFL and asks them for $15 million. They say no. They haven’t given either of their other kids that kind of money. that money came from being fast food franchise owners. How would the outcome be different?

This is why there is no case.

This is such an illogical post it's not worth taking the time to respond in the detail required.

So then simply answer what exactly would YOU have done differently for oher?

You answer this question. Would you have lied to people and told the world via social media, books, speeches, etc that you adopted someone you did not adopt while getting adulation, attention, and money based on the fact that you adopted them.

This, my god. I would have ADOPTED him and held him in equal value to my biological children in every possible way.

Ok so how many teens have you adopted ?

I’m a different PP, but I adopted an adult. And she’s entitled as much as my biological children. Now what about you?

My parents did that too and I can tell you that I wasn’t happy about it. Tye arrangement was supposed to be to help them with college (fine) but then I hear my father refer to her as his daughter and the house gets split three ways and the feelings get a little yucky. It’s weird to adopt an adult- for everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m curious what people here would have done differently. Your kids classmate is struggling with grades and a place to live. You have a big house so you offer him a room and get him a tutor. You encourage and help him go to your alma Mater.

Most people would not bother to do any of that. Now many people think they only did that to get publicity, or maybe to recruit a great football player to their alma mater. But what would any of us have done? What would have had s different outcome for Oher that he would be entitled to compensation for? If he had played for Tennessee would he have had a better career in the nfl? A better education?

Let’s say they told the author and the studio no you can’t use our names. Then the author and the studio slightly change the names and plot and say ‘based on a true story.’ There are no royalties but the story is out there. Is that a better outcome for him?

Leigh Anne’s subsequent crusade/evangelism about fostering/adoption and generally how great it feels to be rich and Christian is pretty ridiculous. But it’s not gotten her a talk show, church, or even significant profits, and it’s her version of her lived life.

Let’s say they had formally adopted michael as an adult. He turns 40, retires from the NFL and asks them for $15 million. They say no. They haven’t given either of their other kids that kind of money. that money came from being fast food franchise owners. How would the outcome be different?

This is why there is no case.

This is such an illogical post it's not worth taking the time to respond in the detail required.

So then simply answer what exactly would YOU have done differently for oher?

You answer this question. Would you have lied to people and told the world via social media, books, speeches, etc that you adopted someone you did not adopt while getting adulation, attention, and money based on the fact that you adopted them.

This, my god. I would have ADOPTED him and held him in equal value to my biological children in every possible way.

I don't think I could adopt and hold somebody in equal value to my biological kids, but I would not mislead him by saying conservatorship is the same as adoption.

Same. I wouldn't adopt an 18 yr old man and suddenly start treating him like my bio kids. The relationship can't and won't be the same. Maybe you can be a trusted confidante and ally, someone in his corder, but it's not a parent/child relationship. You're not really his parent and he knows that.

He doesn't know that. They preached non stop that he was their child just like their biological family. He was told the conservatorship was like adoption.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m curious what people here would have done differently. Your kids classmate is struggling with grades and a place to live. You have a big house so you offer him a room and get him a tutor. You encourage and help him go to your alma Mater.

Most people would not bother to do any of that. Now many people think they only did that to get publicity, or maybe to recruit a great football player to their alma mater. But what would any of us have done? What would have had s different outcome for Oher that he would be entitled to compensation for? If he had played for Tennessee would he have had a better career in the nfl? A better education?

Let’s say they told the author and the studio no you can’t use our names. Then the author and the studio slightly change the names and plot and say ‘based on a true story.’ There are no royalties but the story is out there. Is that a better outcome for him?

Leigh Anne’s subsequent crusade/evangelism about fostering/adoption and generally how great it feels to be rich and Christian is pretty ridiculous. But it’s not gotten her a talk show, church, or even significant profits, and it’s her version of her lived life.

Let’s say they had formally adopted michael as an adult. He turns 40, retires from the NFL and asks them for $15 million. They say no. They haven’t given either of their other kids that kind of money. that money came from being fast food franchise owners. How would the outcome be different?

This is why there is no case.

This is such an illogical post it's not worth taking the time to respond in the detail required.

So then simply answer what exactly would YOU have done differently for oher?

You answer this question. Would you have lied to people and told the world via social media, books, speeches, etc that you adopted someone you did not adopt while getting adulation, attention, and money based on the fact that you adopted them.

This, my god. I would have ADOPTED him and held him in equal value to my biological children in every possible way.

Ok so how many teens have you adopted ?

I’m a different PP, but I adopted an adult. And she’s entitled as much as my biological children. Now what about you?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m curious what people here would have done differently. Your kids classmate is struggling with grades and a place to live. You have a big house so you offer him a room and get him a tutor. You encourage and help him go to your alma Mater.

Most people would not bother to do any of that. Now many people think they only did that to get publicity, or maybe to recruit a great football player to their alma mater. But what would any of us have done? What would have had s different outcome for Oher that he would be entitled to compensation for? If he had played for Tennessee would he have had a better career in the nfl? A better education?

Let’s say they told the author and the studio no you can’t use our names. Then the author and the studio slightly change the names and plot and say ‘based on a true story.’ There are no royalties but the story is out there. Is that a better outcome for him?

Leigh Anne’s subsequent crusade/evangelism about fostering/adoption and generally how great it feels to be rich and Christian is pretty ridiculous. But it’s not gotten her a talk show, church, or even significant profits, and it’s her version of her lived life.

Let’s say they had formally adopted michael as an adult. He turns 40, retires from the NFL and asks them for $15 million. They say no. They haven’t given either of their other kids that kind of money. that money came from being fast food franchise owners. How would the outcome be different?

This is why there is no case.

This is such an illogical post it's not worth taking the time to respond in the detail required.

So then simply answer what exactly would YOU have done differently for oher?

You answer this question. Would you have lied to people and told the world via social media, books, speeches, etc that you adopted someone you did not adopt while getting adulation, attention, and money based on the fact that you adopted them.

This, my god. I would have ADOPTED him and held him in equal value to my biological children in every possible way.

I don't think I could adopt and hold somebody in equal value to my biological kids, but I would not mislead him by saying conservatorship is the same as adoption.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m curious what people here would have done differently. Your kids classmate is struggling with grades and a place to live. You have a big house so you offer him a room and get him a tutor. You encourage and help him go to your alma Mater.

Most people would not bother to do any of that. Now many people think they only did that to get publicity, or maybe to recruit a great football player to their alma mater. But what would any of us have done? What would have had s different outcome for Oher that he would be entitled to compensation for? If he had played for Tennessee would he have had a better career in the nfl? A better education?

Let’s say they told the author and the studio no you can’t use our names. Then the author and the studio slightly change the names and plot and say ‘based on a true story.’ There are no royalties but the story is out there. Is that a better outcome for him?

Leigh Anne’s subsequent crusade/evangelism about fostering/adoption and generally how great it feels to be rich and Christian is pretty ridiculous. But it’s not gotten her a talk show, church, or even significant profits, and it’s her version of her lived life.

Let’s say they had formally adopted michael as an adult. He turns 40, retires from the NFL and asks them for $15 million. They say no. They haven’t given either of their other kids that kind of money. that money came from being fast food franchise owners. How would the outcome be different?

This is why there is no case.

This is such an illogical post it's not worth taking the time to respond in the detail required.

So then simply answer what exactly would YOU have done differently for oher?

You answer this question. Would you have lied to people and told the world via social media, books, speeches, etc that you adopted someone you did not adopt while getting adulation, attention, and money based on the fact that you adopted them.

This, my god. I would have ADOPTED him and held him in equal value to my biological children in every possible way.

Ok so how many teens have you adopted ?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m curious what people here would have done differently. Your kids classmate is struggling with grades and a place to live. You have a big house so you offer him a room and get him a tutor. You encourage and help him go to your alma Mater.

Most people would not bother to do any of that. Now many people think they only did that to get publicity, or maybe to recruit a great football player to their alma mater. But what would any of us have done? What would have had s different outcome for Oher that he would be entitled to compensation for? If he had played for Tennessee would he have had a better career in the nfl? A better education?

Let’s say they told the author and the studio no you can’t use our names. Then the author and the studio slightly change the names and plot and say ‘based on a true story.’ There are no royalties but the story is out there. Is that a better outcome for him?

Leigh Anne’s subsequent crusade/evangelism about fostering/adoption and generally how great it feels to be rich and Christian is pretty ridiculous. But it’s not gotten her a talk show, church, or even significant profits, and it’s her version of her lived life.

Let’s say they had formally adopted michael as an adult. He turns 40, retires from the NFL and asks them for $15 million. They say no. They haven’t given either of their other kids that kind of money. that money came from being fast food franchise owners. How would the outcome be different?

This is why there is no case.

This is such an illogical post it's not worth taking the time to respond in the detail required.

So then simply answer what exactly would YOU have done differently for oher?

You answer this question. Would you have lied to people and told the world via social media, books, speeches, etc that you adopted someone you did not adopt while getting adulation, attention, and money based on the fact that you adopted them.

This, my god. I would have ADOPTED him and held him in equal value to my biological children in every possible way.

I don't think I could adopt and hold somebody in equal value to my biological kids, but I would not mislead him by saying conservatorship is the same as adoption.

Same. I wouldn't adopt an 18 yr old man and suddenly start treating him like my bio kids. The relationship can't and won't be the same. Maybe you can be a trusted confidante and ally, someone in his corder, but it's not a parent/child relationship. You're not really his parent and he knows that.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m curious what people here would have done differently. Your kids classmate is struggling with grades and a place to live. You have a big house so you offer him a room and get him a tutor. You encourage and help him go to your alma Mater.

Most people would not bother to do any of that. Now many people think they only did that to get publicity, or maybe to recruit a great football player to their alma mater. But what would any of us have done? What would have had s different outcome for Oher that he would be entitled to compensation for? If he had played for Tennessee would he have had a better career in the nfl? A better education?

Let’s say they told the author and the studio no you can’t use our names. Then the author and the studio slightly change the names and plot and say ‘based on a true story.’ There are no royalties but the story is out there. Is that a better outcome for him?

Leigh Anne’s subsequent crusade/evangelism about fostering/adoption and generally how great it feels to be rich and Christian is pretty ridiculous. But it’s not gotten her a talk show, church, or even significant profits, and it’s her version of her lived life.

Let’s say they had formally adopted michael as an adult. He turns 40, retires from the NFL and asks them for $15 million. They say no. They haven’t given either of their other kids that kind of money. that money came from being fast food franchise owners. How would the outcome be different?

This is why there is no case.

This is such an illogical post it's not worth taking the time to respond in the detail required.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's all the conservator documents and recent request to end...

Go here:
https://documents.shelbycountytn.gov/ProbateCourtDocuments/

Search for docket: C0010333

Interesting. I read the documents. Fairly standard. Oher had no power to sign contracts himself. But we know he did sign his nfl contract without any prior approval. Would seem to show that the conservatorship was never used.

They seek a jury trial and damages. They can't get either in Probate court. They can get an accounting and then any money owed to Michael plus interest.

How do we know he signed it without any prior approval? Proof?

Simple. If the contract needed prior approval, they (agent & NFL team) would tell him the reason it needed approval. Then he would know that he was in a conservatory and not adoption. He's not that dim.

He says in this legal petition himself that he always knew it wasn’t an adoption and was a conservatorship.

For the 50th time he thought it was the same thing. He was 18 and that’s how they explained it.

How do you think he felt when he realized that they had lied to him for years about him being their son? I wonder at what moment he saw them for the fakes they are. It had to be painful.

I don’t believe he “thought it was the same thing.” He knew it was a different thing and that it was a different means to a similar ends. Which was true.

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Anonymous wrote:I think this case is neither a cash grab by Oher nor a winner for Oher. I think Oher feels aggrieved and used--which he was. I think he is going to lose though and lose badly. The fact that others profit off you and your story -- esp. when it is actually a collective story--and/or exploit a complicated familial-like relationship that you feel was "fake" does not itself* create a legal claim.

*It may be that there is more to the story than is currently public. But it would be odd for Michael Lewis to wade in with a cut and dry story of the division of the proceeds if there was some sort of massive cache of $$$ that had been hidden from Oher...

I agree with you. It will be interesting to see what comes out in the court case, but, on the face of it, this seems like a way for Oher to completely distance himself from the Tuohy's and the Blindside story publicly. I am interested to learn why they chose a conservatorship as their legal way to make him part of the family in this circumstance. I'm guessing he is too.

I think it was as simple as ensuring that the Tuohys could help (and possibly direct) his financial activities without giving him any claim to their assets as a "child." I actually think the move was in good faith, at least in the sense they weren't "cheating" him out of money/success. But nevertheless, an act that sort of makes someone "half-family" is pretty brutal emotionally. Which is sort seem like the fuel for this lawsuit in the first place.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m curious what people here would have done differently. Your kids classmate is struggling with grades and a place to live. You have a big house so you offer him a room and get him a tutor. You encourage and help him go to your alma Mater.

Most people would not bother to do any of that. Now many people think they only did that to get publicity, or maybe to recruit a great football player to their alma mater. But what would any of us have done? What would have had s different outcome for Oher that he would be entitled to compensation for? If he had played for Tennessee would he have had a better career in the nfl? A better education?

Let’s say they told the author and the studio no you can’t use our names. Then the author and the studio slightly change the names and plot and say ‘based on a true story.’ There are no royalties but the story is out there. Is that a better outcome for him?

Leigh Anne’s subsequent crusade/evangelism about fostering/adoption and generally how great it feels to be rich and Christian is pretty ridiculous. But it’s not gotten her a talk show, church, or even significant profits, and it’s her version of her lived life.

Let’s say they had formally adopted michael as an adult. He turns 40, retires from the NFL and asks them for $15 million. They say no. They haven’t given either of their other kids that kind of money. that money came from being fast food franchise owners. How would the outcome be different?

This is why there is no case.

This is such an illogical post it's not worth taking the time to respond in the detail required.

So then simply answer what exactly would YOU have done differently for oher?

You answer this question. Would you have lied to people and told the world via social media, books, speeches, etc that you adopted someone you did not adopt while getting adulation, attention, and money based on the fact that you adopted them.

This, my god. I would have ADOPTED him and held him in equal value to my biological children in every possible way.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m curious what people here would have done differently. Your kids classmate is struggling with grades and a place to live. You have a big house so you offer him a room and get him a tutor. You encourage and help him go to your alma Mater.

Most people would not bother to do any of that. Now many people think they only did that to get publicity, or maybe to recruit a great football player to their alma mater. But what would any of us have done? What would have had s different outcome for Oher that he would be entitled to compensation for? If he had played for Tennessee would he have had a better career in the nfl? A better education?

Let’s say they told the author and the studio no you can’t use our names. Then the author and the studio slightly change the names and plot and say ‘based on a true story.’ There are no royalties but the story is out there. Is that a better outcome for him?

Leigh Anne’s subsequent crusade/evangelism about fostering/adoption and generally how great it feels to be rich and Christian is pretty ridiculous. But it’s not gotten her a talk show, church, or even significant profits, and it’s her version of her lived life.

Let’s say they had formally adopted michael as an adult. He turns 40, retires from the NFL and asks them for $15 million. They say no. They haven’t given either of their other kids that kind of money. that money came from being fast food franchise owners. How would the outcome be different?

This is why there is no case.

This is such an illogical post it's not worth taking the time to respond in the detail required.

So then simply answer what exactly would YOU have done differently for oher?

You answer this question. Would you have lied to people and told the world via social media, books, speeches, etc that you adopted someone you did not adopt while getting adulation, attention, and money based on the fact that you adopted them.

This, my god. I would have ADOPTED him and held him in equal value to my biological children in every possible way.

I don't think I could adopt and hold somebody in equal value to my biological kids, but I would not mislead him by saying conservatorship is the same as adoption.

Same. I wouldn't adopt an 18 yr old man and suddenly start treating him like my bio kids. The relationship can't and won't be the same. Maybe you can be a trusted confidante and ally, someone in his corder, but it's not a parent/child relationship. You're not really his parent and he knows that.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m curious what people here would have done differently. Your kids classmate is struggling with grades and a place to live. You have a big house so you offer him a room and get him a tutor. You encourage and help him go to your alma Mater.

Most people would not bother to do any of that. Now many people think they only did that to get publicity, or maybe to recruit a great football player to their alma mater. But what would any of us have done? What would have had s different outcome for Oher that he would be entitled to compensation for? If he had played for Tennessee would he have had a better career in the nfl? A better education?

Let’s say they told the author and the studio no you can’t use our names. Then the author and the studio slightly change the names and plot and say ‘based on a true story.’ There are no royalties but the story is out there. Is that a better outcome for him?

Leigh Anne’s subsequent crusade/evangelism about fostering/adoption and generally how great it feels to be rich and Christian is pretty ridiculous. But it’s not gotten her a talk show, church, or even significant profits, and it’s her version of her lived life.

Let’s say they had formally adopted michael as an adult. He turns 40, retires from the NFL and asks them for $15 million. They say no. They haven’t given either of their other kids that kind of money. that money came from being fast food franchise owners. How would the outcome be different?

This is why there is no case.

This is such an illogical post it's not worth taking the time to respond in the detail required.

So then simply answer what exactly would YOU have done differently for oher?

You answer this question. Would you have lied to people and told the world via social media, books, speeches, etc that you adopted someone you did not adopt while getting adulation, attention, and money based on the fact that you adopted them.

This, my god. I would have ADOPTED him and held him in equal value to my biological children in every possible way.

I don't think I could adopt and hold somebody in equal value to my biological kids, but I would not mislead him by saying conservatorship is the same as adoption.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m curious what people here would have done differently. Your kids classmate is struggling with grades and a place to live. You have a big house so you offer him a room and get him a tutor. You encourage and help him go to your alma Mater.

Most people would not bother to do any of that. Now many people think they only did that to get publicity, or maybe to recruit a great football player to their alma mater. But what would any of us have done? What would have had s different outcome for Oher that he would be entitled to compensation for? If he had played for Tennessee would he have had a better career in the nfl? A better education?

Let’s say they told the author and the studio no you can’t use our names. Then the author and the studio slightly change the names and plot and say ‘based on a true story.’ There are no royalties but the story is out there. Is that a better outcome for him?

Leigh Anne’s subsequent crusade/evangelism about fostering/adoption and generally how great it feels to be rich and Christian is pretty ridiculous. But it’s not gotten her a talk show, church, or even significant profits, and it’s her version of her lived life.

Let’s say they had formally adopted michael as an adult. He turns 40, retires from the NFL and asks them for $15 million. They say no. They haven’t given either of their other kids that kind of money. that money came from being fast food franchise owners. How would the outcome be different?

This is why there is no case.

This is such an illogical post it's not worth taking the time to respond in the detail required.

So then simply answer what exactly would YOU have done differently for oher?

You answer this question. Would you have lied to people and told the world via social media, books, speeches, etc that you adopted someone you did not adopt while getting adulation, attention, and money based on the fact that you adopted them.

This, my god. I would have ADOPTED him and held him in equal value to my biological children in every possible way.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m curious what people here would have done differently. Your kids classmate is struggling with grades and a place to live. You have a big house so you offer him a room and get him a tutor. You encourage and help him go to your alma Mater.

Most people would not bother to do any of that. Now many people think they only did that to get publicity, or maybe to recruit a great football player to their alma mater. But what would any of us have done? What would have had s different outcome for Oher that he would be entitled to compensation for? If he had played for Tennessee would he have had a better career in the nfl? A better education?

Let’s say they told the author and the studio no you can’t use our names. Then the author and the studio slightly change the names and plot and say ‘based on a true story.’ There are no royalties but the story is out there. Is that a better outcome for him?

Leigh Anne’s subsequent crusade/evangelism about fostering/adoption and generally how great it feels to be rich and Christian is pretty ridiculous. But it’s not gotten her a talk show, church, or even significant profits, and it’s her version of her lived life.

Let’s say they had formally adopted michael as an adult. He turns 40, retires from the NFL and asks them for $15 million. They say no. They haven’t given either of their other kids that kind of money. that money came from being fast food franchise owners. How would the outcome be different?

This is why there is no case.

This is such an illogical post it's not worth taking the time to respond in the detail required.

So then simply answer what exactly would YOU have done differently for oher?

You answer this question. Would you have lied to people and told the world via social media, books, speeches, etc that you adopted someone you did not adopt while getting adulation, attention, and money based on the fact that you adopted them.