Anonymous
Post 04/18/2022 08:52     Subject: Re:Missionaries should be banned
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you like human rights and believe in the dignity of all human beings, thank Christianity.


so the evangelicals and christian right were supportive of the civil rights movement? how about advocacy and recognition of equal rights and basic decency for the LGBTQ+ community?

you are so full of sh*t.


You think it’s better for gays in atheist Russia or China? Several church denominations have women and gay priests.


as a POC, I have dealt with racism first hand and the absolute worst ones were bible thumping "good southern christians" (I spent over a decade living all over the deep south - Atlanta, NO, Houston, Louisville).
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2022 23:19     Subject: Re:Missionaries should be banned
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you like human rights and believe in the dignity of all human beings, thank Christianity.



Seriously.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2022 23:07     Subject: Re:Missionaries should be banned
Anonymous wrote:If you like human rights and believe in the dignity of all human beings, thank Christianity.

Anonymous
Post 04/17/2022 23:04     Subject: Re:Missionaries should be banned
I guess he doesn’t think Lutheran and Catholic Churches are the “right” kind of Christianity.


This is absolutely the case. Tons of fundie missionaries like the Duggars in Latin America trying to “convert” Catholics.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2022 22:51     Subject: Missionaries should be banned
Totally agree. I’m Jewish and if we can survive for thousands of years without proselytizing, and despite multiple genocides against us, then so can Christians.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2022 17:53     Subject: Re:Missionaries should be banned
The missionary ethos is one of the aspects of Christianity that drove me away from being a practicing Christian and from giving my money to the Methodist church. Others are their unwillingness to accept gay people into the church in a real way (haven't even started to discuss transgender or nonbinary) and a dated hierarchical power structure.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2022 17:50     Subject: Missionaries should be banned
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is a type of American Christian missionary that simply baffles me. I am a teacher in Germany at an international school. At our school, we had an American man teaching I for several years. He was a Christian missionary, and his church or organisation at home in America paid for his family to have a huge apartment here in Germany, much bigger than any other teacher’s family needed. His wife did not work, and they had four children, so hardly a massive brood. When he decided to go back to America, he continued to contact all of his former high school students to ask them for money donations so that his family could move to their next “missionary post”, which was going to be another lovely town in Germany.

I do not understand. Yes, he was a nice man, but I don’t think his constant attempts to convert his wealthy, white European students to his brand of Southern evangelical Christianity was worth his church paying for his luxe apartment and his family’s keep (his teaching salary would have supported the family just fine, on a more modest scale here). And almost anywhere you go in our town, you are walking distance from at least one church. I guess he doesn’t think Lutheran and Catholic Churches are the “right” kind of Christianity.

But I would have a hell of a lot more respect for this man if he was trying to spread his religion in a region of the world where some version of the religion doesn’t already exist. So, not in Europe.


Oh, and I wanted to add that I have met about a dozen American Christian missionaries, unrelated to the one described above, over the past ten years or so. Why are they coming to Western Europe? I am not saying they are doing anything worthwhile, but if I were in the business of converting people to Christianity, it would make more sense to me to do it in a country where the local religion was…not Christianity.


But I wonder if it's his version of Christianity that is being practiced in Western Europe? Maybe he's evangelical, baptist, etc. - I'm not aware of much of that in western Europe, correct?
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2022 15:34     Subject: Missionaries should be banned
Anonymous wrote:There is a type of American Christian missionary that simply baffles me. I am a teacher in Germany at an international school. At our school, we had an American man teaching I for several years. He was a Christian missionary, and his church or organisation at home in America paid for his family to have a huge apartment here in Germany, much bigger than any other teacher’s family needed. His wife did not work, and they had four children, so hardly a massive brood. When he decided to go back to America, he continued to contact all of his former high school students to ask them for money donations so that his family could move to their next “missionary post”, which was going to be another lovely town in Germany.

I do not understand. Yes, he was a nice man, but I don’t think his constant attempts to convert his wealthy, white European students to his brand of Southern evangelical Christianity was worth his church paying for his luxe apartment and his family’s keep (his teaching salary would have supported the family just fine, on a more modest scale here). And almost anywhere you go in our town, you are walking distance from at least one church. I guess he doesn’t think Lutheran and Catholic Churches are the “right” kind of Christianity.

But I would have a hell of a lot more respect for this man if he was trying to spread his religion in a region of the world where some version of the religion doesn’t already exist. So, not in Europe.


Oh, and I wanted to add that I have met about a dozen American Christian missionaries, unrelated to the one described above, over the past ten years or so. Why are they coming to Western Europe? I am not saying they are doing anything worthwhile, but if I were in the business of converting people to Christianity, it would make more sense to me to do it in a country where the local religion was…not Christianity.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2022 15:32     Subject: Missionaries should be banned
There is a type of American Christian missionary that simply baffles me. I am a teacher in Germany at an international school. At our school, we had an American man teaching I for several years. He was a Christian missionary, and his church or organisation at home in America paid for his family to have a huge apartment here in Germany, much bigger than any other teacher’s family needed. His wife did not work, and they had four children, so hardly a massive brood. When he decided to go back to America, he continued to contact all of his former high school students to ask them for money donations so that his family could move to their next “missionary post”, which was going to be another lovely town in Germany.

I do not understand. Yes, he was a nice man, but I don’t think his constant attempts to convert his wealthy, white European students to his brand of Southern evangelical Christianity was worth his church paying for his luxe apartment and his family’s keep (his teaching salary would have supported the family just fine, on a more modest scale here). And almost anywhere you go in our town, you are walking distance from at least one church. I guess he doesn’t think Lutheran and Catholic Churches are the “right” kind of Christianity.

But I would have a hell of a lot more respect for this man if he was trying to spread his religion in a region of the world where some version of the religion doesn’t already exist. So, not in Europe.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2022 15:24     Subject: Re:Missionaries should be banned
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you like human rights and believe in the dignity of all human beings, thank Christianity.


so the evangelicals and christian right were supportive of the civil rights movement? how about advocacy and recognition of equal rights and basic decency for the LGBTQ+ community?

you are so full of sh*t.


One of the most racist people I ever met was an atheist Russian.


PS. FIL actually threw this guy out of his house a few days after we met him, that’s how racist this Russian was. And don’t get me started about racism among Muslims I’ve known. This whole “holier-than-thou” thing you atheists have got going is seriously flawed.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2022 15:17     Subject: Re:Missionaries should be banned
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you like human rights and believe in the dignity of all human beings, thank Christianity.


so the evangelicals and christian right were supportive of the civil rights movement? how about advocacy and recognition of equal rights and basic decency for the LGBTQ+ community?

you are so full of sh*t.


One of the most racist people I ever met was an atheist Russian.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2022 15:13     Subject: Re:Missionaries should be banned
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you like human rights and believe in the dignity of all human beings, thank Christianity.


so the evangelicals and christian right were supportive of the civil rights movement? how about advocacy and recognition of equal rights and basic decency for the LGBTQ+ community?

you are so full of sh*t.


You think it’s better for gays in atheist Russia or China? Several church denominations have women and gay priests.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2022 07:33     Subject: Missionaries should be banned
I'm with you! White Christian celebrating Easter today.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2022 07:31     Subject: Re:Missionaries should be banned
Anonymous wrote:If you like human rights and believe in the dignity of all human beings, thank Christianity.


so the evangelicals and christian right were supportive of the civil rights movement? how about advocacy and recognition of equal rights and basic decency for the LGBTQ+ community?

you are so full of sh*t.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2022 04:19     Subject: Missionaries should be banned
When I was in the Peace Corps in Africa missionaries preyed upon teenagers when they were most vulnerable. When they had been taken from their homes and were living in boarding schools. The lives of anyone they converted were ruined because that society is based on Muslim extended family.