Anonymous
09/11/2021 10:00
Subject: Midsize University with Good Business School and Traditional Campus Feel (not in South)
I didn't see whether the west is excluded, but Santa Clara might be worth a look. Seems to pride itself on Silicon Valley internships. (My URM w/1510/3.5 did not get into the business school; not sure if that was yield protection because he had some sketchy grades, but you can see their business school's stats in the class profile on their website)
Anonymous
09/11/2021 09:46
Subject: Midsize University with Good Business School and Traditional Campus Feel (not in South)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Xavier
Fordham
Syracuse
Delaware
Pitt
These are good additions, and I like Villanova for your kid.
Villanova SOB is tough admit, and even harder to transfer when there. Big yawn on this school. Take themselves way too seriously. DS got the vibe that this is the actual school where fun goes to die. The new upperclass dorm is gorgeous. DS took it off his list.
Providence is a big nooooooo. Immediate surrounding area is a dump. Providence is a cool little city though. Read Reddit Providence College for real reviews, then hop over to Niche. Like BC, business school is heavy white finance bros. Not a diverse school. There's always a twinge of New England arrogance. Lehigh same with big fat Greek life. Just being honest on our end.
I would visit Providence College. I am from New England and I always thought of it as a working class version of BC or Holy Cross. No New England snobbery there.
Uh, what?! If you'd have said "a less selective version of BC or Holy Cross" I'd be with you, but as someone who went there I would say it's every bit the preppy, rich, Catholic vibe of BC or Holy Cross. Not working class in vibe at all.
BC School of Management undergrad alum here to weigh in (with PC friends). Totally agree with the PC grad - I would never describe PC as the working class at all. The city of Providence is quite different than Chestnut Hill/Brookline (and perhaps that's where you get a more blue collar idea?), and BC may be more competitive, but these schools have generally similar populations. I'd agree these are not diverse schools, but they are not snobby at all. And at BC, the Jesuit tradition is strong in creating a very warm, accepting, and cohesive community and actually provide a moral compass for undergrads that I did not find in the highly competitive school I attended for grad school. The description of BC management students couldn't be more off.
Pp here. That is fascinating! Seriously, I always thought it was the school where working class catholic went and the more well off went to BC and Holy Cross. I am not kidding!
Well. PC costs $72K per year. I doubt too many working class kids go there.
Anonymous
09/11/2021 09:27
Subject: Midsize University with Good Business School and Traditional Campus Feel (not in South)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Xavier
Fordham
Syracuse
Delaware
Pitt
These are good additions, and I like Villanova for your kid.
Villanova SOB is tough admit, and even harder to transfer when there. Big yawn on this school. Take themselves way too seriously. DS got the vibe that this is the actual school where fun goes to die. The new upperclass dorm is gorgeous. DS took it off his list.
Providence is a big nooooooo. Immediate surrounding area is a dump. Providence is a cool little city though. Read Reddit Providence College for real reviews, then hop over to Niche. Like BC, business school is heavy white finance bros. Not a diverse school. There's always a twinge of New England arrogance. Lehigh same with big fat Greek life. Just being honest on our end.
Just out of curiosity, what are some schools that you like?
Pp again. Just sent a text to DS who stressed applying direct admit to biz schools. Hard to transfer into competitive biz schools in sophomore year. First three were his top choices in order of the love he had for their business schools with specific concentrations. He only wanted urban mid-size:
Northeastern - He had/still has a paid internship turned co-op since sophomore year HS. Was stoked for co-op, but felt he could make better use of that extra year on his own. Wasn't feeling the 5 year slog unless for an MBA. Wants to study abroad instead. Plus, Boston was his home city for 5 years.
GWU - No credit to Dcum, we felt your hate for GW lol. He stood out from the usual wanna be on-the-hill suspects. He researched biz school hard, fell in love with location, and the students he got to know. Also loves politics as a pastime, not a career.
Fordham University - Bachelor of Science Gabelli School of Business. Strong alumni, network, gender imbalance to his advantage, beautiful contained campus, easy to city. Arthur Ave is their college town. NYU, Pace, Suny Maritime, CUNY students hang out with Fordham students. Mixed but leans liberal
Hofstra - Crazy I know, but there's a few reasons why. One being the Zarb School of Business, which is excellent.
Stevens Institute of Technology - phenomenal Bachelor of Science Business & Technology degree. Hoboken is amazing, campus is gorgeous. Serious gender imbalance with incel reputation. This really bothered him. He's extroverted, likes/ respects girls a lot, and didn't want to be associated with that reputation, regardless if it's unfounded. Beautiful new University Center and housing is state of the art. Beats most colleges out there for sure.
Babson - Wellesley and too small. All biz, all the time. Ranked #1 Entrepreneurship
BC - Carroll School of Management - not his people
BU - Not a contained campus. Grade deflation is very real! Questrom School of Business is excellent.
UMass Amherst - Outlier in terms of size and location, but he loved the business school & campus dining is outstanding. Quietly relieved he chose private. K-12 public funds private college. My only requirement.
Pace - Offered him, and many students, the world. He couldn't get past it's ranking, but also wanted a campus.
Providence - Providence is a great little city. Contained campus surrounded by nothing. Alcohol is a pastime. He liked that it's equidistant NY/Boston. Conservative bro vibe.
Villanova - Felt nothing, nada, zippo, indifferent. Has a couple of 2020 friends there, and they love it. Well respected business school.
OP, your son has the stats for these schools. He still has the option not to send test score. Cross that bridge when he has scores. Pick and choose which schools to send them to based on college's average test score.
Quick note on the bolded above...my DC graduated from Northeastern a few years ago. Had a great experience and did do the 5 year program. However, they had a few friends who graduated in 4 years. Students do not have to do the 5 years, especially if they come with credits from high school. They might need to take some summer classes (most do that anyway) and can only fit in 2 co-ops (rather than 3), but it's definitely possible and plenty of students do it.
NP here - I agree with Pp. know a family where student will leave with a masters AND in less than 5 years. Plus lots of aid
Anonymous
09/11/2021 09:23
Subject: Midsize University with Good Business School and Traditional Campus Feel (not in South)
wash u or emory if you don't mind $$$$ tuition
Anonymous
09/10/2021 22:06
Subject: Midsize University with Good Business School and Traditional Campus Feel (not in South)
Butler in Indianapolis. Lots of internship offerings.
Anonymous
09/10/2021 19:53
Subject: Midsize University with Good Business School and Traditional Campus Feel (not in South)
Lehigh. Meets all the criteria and my kid is having a great time and getting a great education there. The campus is one of the most beautiful I have ever seen, and even when students choose to move off campus, it’s literally within blocks and everyone walks everywhere.
Anonymous
09/10/2021 19:41
Subject: Midsize University with Good Business School and Traditional Campus Feel (not in South)
Miami Univ of Ohio.
Anonymous
09/10/2021 18:36
Subject: Midsize University with Good Business School and Traditional Campus Feel (not in South)
University of Rochester
Anonymous
09/10/2021 18:32
Subject: Midsize University with Good Business School and Traditional Campus Feel (not in South)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Xavier
Fordham
Syracuse
Delaware
Pitt
These are good additions, and I like Villanova for your kid.
Villanova SOB is tough admit, and even harder to transfer when there. Big yawn on this school. Take themselves way too seriously. DS got the vibe that this is the actual school where fun goes to die. The new upperclass dorm is gorgeous. DS took it off his list.
Providence is a big nooooooo. Immediate surrounding area is a dump. Providence is a cool little city though. Read Reddit Providence College for real reviews, then hop over to Niche. Like BC, business school is heavy white finance bros. Not a diverse school. There's always a twinge of New England arrogance. Lehigh same with big fat Greek life. Just being honest on our end.
Just out of curiosity, what are some schools that you like?
Pp again. Just sent a text to DS who stressed applying direct admit to biz schools. Hard to transfer into competitive biz schools in sophomore year. First three were his top choices in order of the love he had for their business schools with specific concentrations. He only wanted urban mid-size:
Northeastern - He had/still has a paid internship turned co-op since sophomore year HS. Was stoked for co-op, but felt he could make better use of that extra year on his own. Wasn't feeling the 5 year slog unless for an MBA. Wants to study abroad instead. Plus, Boston was his home city for 5 years.
GWU - No credit to Dcum, we felt your hate for GW lol. He stood out from the usual wanna be on-the-hill suspects. He researched biz school hard, fell in love with location, and the students he got to know. Also loves politics as a pastime, not a career.
Fordham University - Bachelor of Science Gabelli School of Business. Strong alumni, network, gender imbalance to his advantage, beautiful contained campus, easy to city. Arthur Ave is their college town. NYU, Pace, Suny Maritime, CUNY students hang out with Fordham students. Mixed but leans liberal
Hofstra - Crazy I know, but there's a few reasons why. One being the Zarb School of Business, which is excellent.
Stevens Institute of Technology - phenomenal Bachelor of Science Business & Technology degree. Hoboken is amazing, campus is gorgeous. Serious gender imbalance with incel reputation. This really bothered him. He's extroverted, likes/ respects girls a lot, and didn't want to be associated with that reputation, regardless if it's unfounded. Beautiful new University Center and housing is state of the art. Beats most colleges out there for sure.
Babson - Wellesley and too small. All biz, all the time. Ranked #1 Entrepreneurship
BC - Carroll School of Management - not his people
BU - Not a contained campus. Grade deflation is very real! Questrom School of Business is excellent.
UMass Amherst - Outlier in terms of size and location, but he loved the business school & campus dining is outstanding. Quietly relieved he chose private. K-12 public funds private college. My only requirement.
Pace - Offered him, and many students, the world. He couldn't get past it's ranking, but also wanted a campus.
Providence - Providence is a great little city. Contained campus surrounded by nothing. Alcohol is a pastime. He liked that it's equidistant NY/Boston. Conservative bro vibe.
Villanova - Felt nothing, nada, zippo, indifferent. Has a couple of 2020 friends there, and they love it. Well respected business school.
OP, your son has the stats for these schools. He still has the option not to send test score. Cross that bridge when he has scores. Pick and choose which schools to send them to based on college's average test score.
You need a hobby.
You're right, I do, and paragraphs would have helped. But in my defense, DS has only been gone a few weeks, and I miss him. That text I sent him turned into a fun chat, and hopefully gave his perspective.
No dis to the BC alum, glad you had an exceptional experience. DH with generations of family that attended. My kid wasn't feeling it. Of course, that side of the family is very disappointed he's not in Boston, "where he belongs", Boston pride runs deep.
Anonymous
09/10/2021 17:26
Subject: Midsize University with Good Business School and Traditional Campus Feel (not in South)
Anonymous wrote:University of Charleston.
Ooops..in the south.
University of Charleston??? Do you mean College of Charleston?
Anonymous
09/10/2021 12:09
Subject: Midsize University with Good Business School and Traditional Campus Feel (not in South)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Xavier
Fordham
Syracuse
Delaware
Pitt
These are good additions, and I like Villanova for your kid.
Villanova SOB is tough admit, and even harder to transfer when there. Big yawn on this school. Take themselves way too seriously. DS got the vibe that this is the actual school where fun goes to die. The new upperclass dorm is gorgeous. DS took it off his list.
Providence is a big nooooooo. Immediate surrounding area is a dump. Providence is a cool little city though. Read Reddit Providence College for real reviews, then hop over to Niche. Like BC, business school is heavy white finance bros. Not a diverse school. There's always a twinge of New England arrogance. Lehigh same with big fat Greek life. Just being honest on our end.
Just out of curiosity, what are some schools that you like?
Pp again. Just sent a text to DS who stressed applying direct admit to biz schools. Hard to transfer into competitive biz schools in sophomore year. First three were his top choices in order of the love he had for their business schools with specific concentrations. He only wanted urban mid-size:
Northeastern - He had/still has a paid internship turned co-op since sophomore year HS. Was stoked for co-op, but felt he could make better use of that extra year on his own. Wasn't feeling the 5 year slog unless for an MBA. Wants to study abroad instead. Plus, Boston was his home city for 5 years.
GWU - No credit to Dcum, we felt your hate for GW lol. He stood out from the usual wanna be on-the-hill suspects. He researched biz school hard, fell in love with location, and the students he got to know. Also loves politics as a pastime, not a career.
Fordham University - Bachelor of Science Gabelli School of Business. Strong alumni, network, gender imbalance to his advantage, beautiful contained campus, easy to city. Arthur Ave is their college town. NYU, Pace, Suny Maritime, CUNY students hang out with Fordham students. Mixed but leans liberal
Hofstra - Crazy I know, but there's a few reasons why. One being the Zarb School of Business, which is excellent.
Stevens Institute of Technology - phenomenal Bachelor of Science Business & Technology degree. Hoboken is amazing, campus is gorgeous. Serious gender imbalance with incel reputation. This really bothered him. He's extroverted, likes/ respects girls a lot, and didn't want to be associated with that reputation, regardless if it's unfounded. Beautiful new University Center and housing is state of the art. Beats most colleges out there for sure.
Babson - Wellesley and too small. All biz, all the time. Ranked #1 Entrepreneurship
BC - Carroll School of Management - not his people
BU - Not a contained campus. Grade deflation is very real! Questrom School of Business is excellent.
UMass Amherst - Outlier in terms of size and location, but he loved the business school & campus dining is outstanding. Quietly relieved he chose private. K-12 public funds private college. My only requirement.
Pace - Offered him, and many students, the world. He couldn't get past it's ranking, but also wanted a campus.
Providence - Providence is a great little city. Contained campus surrounded by nothing. Alcohol is a pastime. He liked that it's equidistant NY/Boston. Conservative bro vibe.
Villanova - Felt nothing, nada, zippo, indifferent. Has a couple of 2020 friends there, and they love it. Well respected business school.
OP, your son has the stats for these schools. He still has the option not to send test score. Cross that bridge when he has scores. Pick and choose which schools to send them to based on college's average test score.
Quick note on the bolded above...my DC graduated from Northeastern a few years ago. Had a great experience and did do the 5 year program. However, they had a few friends who graduated in 4 years. Students do not have to do the 5 years, especially if they come with credits from high school. They might need to take some summer classes (most do that anyway) and can only fit in 2 co-ops (rather than 3), but it's definitely possible and plenty of students do it.
Anonymous
09/10/2021 10:14
Subject: Midsize University with Good Business School and Traditional Campus Feel (not in South)
University of Charleston.
Ooops..in the south.
Ooops..in the south.
Anonymous
09/10/2021 09:51
Subject: Midsize University with Good Business School and Traditional Campus Feel (not in South)
I worked at the business school at Loyola Chicago for 10 years, and can't say enough good things about the faculty and administration there. The main campus is right on Lake Michigan and is really pretty, and the Water Tower campus (where the business school resides) is right in the heart of downtown Chicago. The faculty are really committed to mentoring students, and there are great career service resources, as well.
Anonymous
09/10/2021 09:21
Subject: Midsize University with Good Business School and Traditional Campus Feel (not in South)
Not to be pedantic but the biz school is about 9,000 students total. If kid chose Indy campus there are about 1800. I stand by my statement - Indiana fits the Ops requirements.
Anonymous
09/10/2021 07:46
Subject: Midsize University with Good Business School and Traditional Campus Feel (not in South)
Anonymous wrote:Indiana. This seems to fit all of your requirements.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelley_School_of_Business
The FIRST characteristic request is midsized. IU has over 45,000 undergrads.