Anonymous
08/26/2021 20:43
Subject: Have you sign-up for weekly asymptomatic testing at APS
The ones for sports testing (rapid) aren’t painful at all. My kid does them daily.
Anonymous
08/26/2021 20:37
Subject: Have you sign-up for weekly asymptomatic testing at APS
I am trying to figure out whether we should sign up our somewhat sensitive, vaccinated tween for this testing. I am in favor of it generally, but there isn't much info on the APS website about it. Does anyone know:
1. Is this a painful test? Someone earlier said it was the invasive nasal one and someone else said it wasn't. I just administered myself one of the Biovax Antigen tests a few days ago when I had the sniffles (negative) and found it a little painful but I might have poked the swab further up my nose than I needed to. Was it like that and will it hurt? I don't want to sign my kid up for weekly pain.
2. If we sign up, will my kid get the test every week or just when randomly picked?
3. If my kid tests positive and was vaccinated, is this the "pull them out of school for 8 days and quarantine at home" situation? What if it was a false positive? I think the false positive rate for these Biovax antigen tests is only like 3% or similar.
Anyone who knows any of this, I would really appreciate the info!
1. Is this a painful test? Someone earlier said it was the invasive nasal one and someone else said it wasn't. I just administered myself one of the Biovax Antigen tests a few days ago when I had the sniffles (negative) and found it a little painful but I might have poked the swab further up my nose than I needed to. Was it like that and will it hurt? I don't want to sign my kid up for weekly pain.
2. If we sign up, will my kid get the test every week or just when randomly picked?
3. If my kid tests positive and was vaccinated, is this the "pull them out of school for 8 days and quarantine at home" situation? What if it was a false positive? I think the false positive rate for these Biovax antigen tests is only like 3% or similar.
Anyone who knows any of this, I would really appreciate the info!
Anonymous
08/26/2021 17:52
Subject: Re:Have you sign-up for weekly asymptomatic testing at APS
Anonymous wrote:There you have it folks. People don’t care if their kids have Covid as long as they can go to school. This is why we can’t have nice things.
Arlington insisted on raise the class sizes and pushing back. Got crappy air filters and made arbitrary cut off rules. IDK. My kid will be safe . I can only protect my child.
Anonymous
08/26/2021 17:20
Subject: Have you sign-up for weekly asymptomatic testing at APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I mean who really cares about asymptomatic Covid? If it’s asymptomatic … great. Im only worried if it’s a bad illness.
Sure, I mean your asymptomatic kid could pass it to someone who is high risk and they might die, but no worries for you!
Hey if you’re an adult who didn’t vax by choice, that’s your decision. I’m done making my kids take care of you when you won’t do your part. My kids mask and we mitigate but if they get asymptomatic Covid and give it to an unvaccinated adult not really sure what else I should have done.
Well, PP, apparently you (and I) were supposed to also get yourself and your kids tested every week.
You don’t have to take yourself. All you have to do is opt-in your kids.
It’s not that hard FFS.
It's what THEY could have done more; not what APS is going to do. If you want to be accurate about close contact, it matters if a parent/guardian living with the student has COVID. So, in response to the PP's comment, I was explaining the "more she could have done" was get everyone, including herself, tested regularly.
Anonymous
08/26/2021 14:03
Subject: Have you sign-up for weekly asymptomatic testing at APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I mean who really cares about asymptomatic Covid? If it’s asymptomatic … great. Im only worried if it’s a bad illness.
Sure, I mean your asymptomatic kid could pass it to someone who is high risk and they might die, but no worries for you!
Hey if you’re an adult who didn’t vax by choice, that’s your decision. I’m done making my kids take care of you when you won’t do your part. My kids mask and we mitigate but if they get asymptomatic Covid and give it to an unvaccinated adult not really sure what else I should have done.
Well, PP, apparently you (and I) were supposed to also get yourself and your kids tested every week.
You don’t have to take yourself. All you have to do is opt-in your kids.
It’s not that hard FFS.
Anonymous
08/26/2021 13:34
Subject: Have you sign-up for weekly asymptomatic testing at APS
I'm just going to assume that there will be one child in each class who will not opt in to test. Over the past 18 months, I have drilled into my kids how to wear their masks correctly, wash their hands and try to socially distance as much as possible.
I'm opting in because I don't want any of them there if they test positive.
I'm opting in because I don't want any of them there if they test positive.
Anonymous
08/26/2021 12:54
Subject: Have you sign-up for weekly asymptomatic testing at APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I mean who really cares about asymptomatic Covid? If it’s asymptomatic … great. Im only worried if it’s a bad illness.
Sure, I mean your asymptomatic kid could pass it to someone who is high risk and they might die, but no worries for you!
Hey if you’re an adult who didn’t vax by choice, that’s your decision. I’m done making my kids take care of you when you won’t do your part. My kids mask and we mitigate but if they get asymptomatic Covid and give it to an unvaccinated adult not really sure what else I should have done.
Well, PP, apparently you (and I) were supposed to also get yourself and your kids tested every week.
Anonymous
08/25/2021 19:47
Subject: Have you sign-up for weekly asymptomatic testing at APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We are not signing our kids up because of the risk of them missing school due to a false positive. I may reevaluate if the overall infection rate in Arlington increases dramatically. But we will test at any sign of illness.
Why are you worried about false positives? There is an extremely low risk of false positives.
Dp. Saying That repeatedly doesn’t make it true. I personally know multiple people with false positives. Note that fccps is not doing this bc of disruptive false positives over the summer
And repeatedly sharing unverified anecdotes “from a friend” doesn’t make it true.
https://www.healthline.com/health/how-accurate-are-rapid-covid-tests#how-accurate-is-it
“Percent of negative COVID-19 cases correctly identified”
97-100% depending on brand
I thought that the Arlington testing program was using PCR tests, are they using rapid tests?
They offer both.
https://www.apsva.us/school-year-2021-22/health-safety-information/covid-19-testing/
I believe PP was referring to concerns about the rapid testing (currently used for athletes).
I am the PP who brought up the risk of false positives. I am more concerned about false positives with PCR tests since they are more sensitive. Are you able to only consent for instant tests? I would do that but I am not comfortable consenting to PCR tests unless I knew my kids could go back to school if a second PCR test was negative. But I didn't see that in the materials (maybe I missed it)?
They are doing instant tests. If the instant test is positive, they confirm with a PCR test.
Anonymous
08/25/2021 19:46
Subject: Have you sign-up for weekly asymptomatic testing at APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We are not signing our kids up because of the risk of them missing school due to a false positive. I may reevaluate if the overall infection rate in Arlington increases dramatically. But we will test at any sign of illness.
Why are you worried about false positives? There is an extremely low risk of false positives.
Dp. Saying That repeatedly doesn’t make it true. I personally know multiple people with false positives. Note that fccps is not doing this bc of disruptive false positives over the summer
And repeatedly sharing unverified anecdotes “from a friend” doesn’t make it true.
https://www.healthline.com/health/how-accurate-are-rapid-covid-tests#how-accurate-is-it
“Percent of negative COVID-19 cases correctly identified”
97-100% depending on brand
They do instant and then if it shows positive they follow it up with a PCR test to confirm.
I thought that the Arlington testing program was using PCR tests, are they using rapid tests?
They offer both.
https://www.apsva.us/school-year-2021-22/health-safety-information/covid-19-testing/
I believe PP was referring to concerns about the rapid testing (currently used for athletes).
I am the PP who brought up the risk of false positives. I am more concerned about false positives with PCR tests since they are more sensitive. Are you able to only consent for instant tests? I would do that but I am not comfortable consenting to PCR tests unless I knew my kids could go back to school if a second PCR test was negative. But I didn't see that in the materials (maybe I missed it)?
Anonymous
08/25/2021 18:25
Subject: Have you sign-up for weekly asymptomatic testing at APS
Here is some more info from MIT on true vs false positives...
...the accuracy of even these tests depends on the percentage of people in the population who have actually been exposed to the virus. For example, in a population where the prevalence of infection is 5%, a test with 95% specificity and 95% sensitivity will return the same number of false positives as true positives, making any individual result no more useful than the flip of a coin.
https://medical.mit.edu/faqs/faq-testing-covid-19
...the accuracy of even these tests depends on the percentage of people in the population who have actually been exposed to the virus. For example, in a population where the prevalence of infection is 5%, a test with 95% specificity and 95% sensitivity will return the same number of false positives as true positives, making any individual result no more useful than the flip of a coin.
https://medical.mit.edu/faqs/faq-testing-covid-19
Anonymous
08/25/2021 18:19
Subject: Have you sign-up for weekly asymptomatic testing at APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We are not signing our kids up because of the risk of them missing school due to a false positive. I may reevaluate if the overall infection rate in Arlington increases dramatically. But we will test at any sign of illness.
Why are you worried about false positives? There is an extremely low risk of false positives.
Dp. Saying That repeatedly doesn’t make it true. I personally know multiple people with false positives. Note that fccps is not doing this bc of disruptive false positives over the summer
And repeatedly sharing unverified anecdotes “from a friend” doesn’t make it true.
https://www.healthline.com/health/how-accurate-are-rapid-covid-tests#how-accurate-is-it
“Percent of negative COVID-19 cases correctly identified”
97-100% depending on brand
I thought that the Arlington testing program was using PCR tests, are they using rapid tests?
They offer both.
https://www.apsva.us/school-year-2021-22/health-safety-information/covid-19-testing/
I believe PP was referring to concerns about the rapid testing (currently used for athletes).
I am the PP who brought up the risk of false positives. I am more concerned about false positives with PCR tests since they are more sensitive. Are you able to only consent for instant tests? I would do that but I am not comfortable consenting to PCR tests unless I knew my kids could go back to school if a second PCR test was negative. But I didn't see that in the materials (maybe I missed it)?
Anonymous
08/25/2021 16:22
Subject: Have you sign-up for weekly asymptomatic testing at APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We are not signing our kids up because of the risk of them missing school due to a false positive. I may reevaluate if the overall infection rate in Arlington increases dramatically. But we will test at any sign of illness.
Why are you worried about false positives? There is an extremely low risk of false positives.
Dp. Saying That repeatedly doesn’t make it true. I personally know multiple people with false positives. Note that fccps is not doing this bc of disruptive false positives over the summer
And repeatedly sharing unverified anecdotes “from a friend” doesn’t make it true.
https://www.healthline.com/health/how-accurate-are-rapid-covid-tests#how-accurate-is-it
“Percent of negative COVID-19 cases correctly identified”
97-100% depending on brand
I thought that the Arlington testing program was using PCR tests, are they using rapid tests?
They offer both.
https://www.apsva.us/school-year-2021-22/health-safety-information/covid-19-testing/
I believe PP was referring to concerns about the rapid testing (currently used for athletes).
Anonymous
08/25/2021 13:28
Subject: Have you sign-up for weekly asymptomatic testing at APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We are not signing our kids up because of the risk of them missing school due to a false positive. I may reevaluate if the overall infection rate in Arlington increases dramatically. But we will test at any sign of illness.
Why are you worried about false positives? There is an extremely low risk of false positives.
Dp. Saying That repeatedly doesn’t make it true. I personally know multiple people with false positives. Note that fccps is not doing this bc of disruptive false positives over the summer
And repeatedly sharing unverified anecdotes “from a friend” doesn’t make it true.
https://www.healthline.com/health/how-accurate-are-rapid-covid-tests#how-accurate-is-it
“Percent of negative COVID-19 cases correctly identified”
97-100% depending on brand 0
I thought that the Arlington testing program was using PCR tests, are they using rapid tests?
Anonymous
08/25/2021 13:18
Subject: Have you sign-up for weekly asymptomatic testing at APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We are not signing our kids up because of the risk of them missing school due to a false positive. I may reevaluate if the overall infection rate in Arlington increases dramatically. But we will test at any sign of illness.
Why are you worried about false positives? There is an extremely low risk of false positives.
Dp. Saying That repeatedly doesn’t make it true. I personally know multiple people with false positives. Note that fccps is not doing this bc of disruptive false positives over the summer
And repeatedly sharing unverified anecdotes “from a friend” doesn’t make it true.
https://www.healthline.com/health/how-accurate-are-rapid-covid-tests#how-accurate-is-it
“Percent of negative COVID-19 cases correctly identified”
97-100% depending on brand
Anonymous
08/25/2021 13:09
Subject: Have you sign-up for weekly asymptomatic testing at APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We are not signing our kids up because of the risk of them missing school due to a false positive. I may reevaluate if the overall infection rate in Arlington increases dramatically. But we will test at any sign of illness.
Why are you worried about false positives? There is an extremely low risk of false positives.
Dp. Saying That repeatedly doesn’t make it true. I personally know multiple people with false positives. Note that fccps is not doing this bc of disruptive false positives over the summer