Anonymous
08/12/2021 23:28
Subject: How to push back against people who want to close schools AGAIN
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So I have heard that at one DC charter that already started back this week...25% of classes are now quarantining at home due to confirmed COVID cases in the room.
What a mess this will be. I think people have no idea how much of a disaster this fall will be.
What they need to do is stop quarantining everybody. If this will be a mess, it will be a mess of our own making.
You forgot the entire plot here. COVID is real. The mess of our own making is what would happen if we pretend it isn't in the classroom, and let it spread.
You forgot that the plot originally was that we need to protect the vulnerable and slow the spread so as not to overwhelm hospitals. Then the plot evolved to we need to wait for vaccines so the vulnerable can be protected. Nobody ever worried about kids until those things were achieved, and some people had now shifted their perspective to the idea that nobody must ever be put at risk of catching Covid, even if their risk of severe illness is close to zero (not zero).
Look, I’d rather my kids don’t catch Covid either. I don’t let them be unmasked in indoor public places. But schools need to function, and at some point we need to wonder if constant quarantine disruptions are worse than getting a probably mild case of Covid. Especially after they have already lost over a year of school, and given that it looks like the vaccines don’t prevent all infections either. Daily antigen testing of the whole exposed class, as was done in Britain, seems like a better approach.
I have a lot of compassion for you, your kids, and mine.
You misunderstand, or misrepresent for the sake of your point, how the plot has changed with respect to protecting children. The delta variant changed the plot. You make it sound like we are looking for excuses to disrupt normal life. That is not true. You sound like you're intentionally obscuring parts of the plot so you can pretend you can go back to an undisrupted normal life. That is not true either.
Anonymous
08/12/2021 23:25
Subject: How to push back against people who want to close schools AGAIN
Teacher here who is wondering where all the federal pandemic funding went? Two of the most basic precautions we can take for unvaccinated elementary students are good quality masks and distanced, outdoors lunch. The former is easy - supply good quality masks. The second requires tents, tables and extra lunch duty, cafeteria/meal prep and janitorial staff. So far they seem to be leaving it to individual schools to figure out and I guarantee you the extra work/lunch duty coverage (when you can’t have several classes supervised by one teacher while others have their break) will burn out already-stressed faculty and staff.
Anonymous
08/12/2021 22:27
Subject: Re:How to push back against people who want to close schools AGAIN
Middle and high school should fully reopen. I can see being very cautious and having a more responsive to circumstance plan in elementary through fall until kids can get the vaccine . I really don't want my child to catch even mild Covid. Nope
Anonymous
08/12/2021 21:46
Subject: Re:How to push back against people who want to close schools AGAIN
Anonymous wrote:I'm with you, OP. The reality is that covid isn't going anywhere, and we need to learn to live with it rather than deprive kids of education. I agree with pushing vaccinations and masking, as well as other mitigation methods. But in the end we have to accept that we aren't ever going to get to zero risk of covid.
Facile argument much? So the choices are either zero risk or expose all kids to the Delta variant? Nothing in between, huh?
Anonymous
08/12/2021 21:37
Subject: How to push back against people who want to close schools AGAIN
Anonymous wrote:Stop blaming foster kids and homeless and make this about you as that is what it is about. We want our kids safe. Those kids are in foster care to keep them safe.
OP here -- who is blaming foster kids or homeless kids? Of course I am very concerned about my own kids, but people who are advocating for schools to remain closed or offer virtual options or whatever don't give an F about vulnerable black and brown kids. Don't believe it for one minute. Many kids in my child's class are in vulnerable situations, other just in less than ideal situations like spending the school day helping with their mom's at home day care or just never logging.
Cleveland only had a handful of CARES spots that weren't offered to the general population.
Anonymous
08/12/2021 21:04
Subject: Re:How to push back against people who want to close schools AGAIN
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://fortune.com/2021/08/12/as-delta-infections-spiked-covid-cases-in-schools-actually-fell-a-lesson-from-england/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
As Delta infections spiked, COVID cases in schools actually fell—a lesson from England
And they didn't even mask! (Although they tested 2x / week)
DCPS is testing how many times a week again? Oh right, zero.
Oh did you skip the part where they didn’t mask? And we are?
Did YOU skip the part where masks alone will result in 40% of kids getting COVID in three months?
Did you skip the part where that didn’t happen in LA schools with delta, or in UK schools without masks and delta?
Anonymous
08/12/2021 19:57
Subject: Re:How to push back against people who want to close schools AGAIN
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://fortune.com/2021/08/12/as-delta-infections-spiked-covid-cases-in-schools-actually-fell-a-lesson-from-england/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
As Delta infections spiked, COVID cases in schools actually fell—a lesson from England
And they didn't even mask! (Although they tested 2x / week)
DCPS is testing how many times a week again? Oh right, zero.
Oh did you skip the part where they didn’t mask? And we are?
Did YOU skip the part where masks alone will result in 40% of kids getting COVID in three months?
Anonymous
08/12/2021 19:27
Subject: Re:How to push back against people who want to close schools AGAIN
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can you name your school?
Cleveland!
Well, I hid the Facebook post so I dunno, but it seems like just Becky being Becky.
Yup, looks like she’s on FB trying to recruit parents to help her shut down school again 🙄
She just said “if you’re reluctant to send your kids to school email me.” And the DCPS “plan” will not kids safe.
Anonymous
08/12/2021 18:41
Subject: Re:How to push back against people who want to close schools AGAIN
How about we our kids first?
At this stage of Covid - an eligible person has no excuse not to be vaccinated. It’s ridiculous. I encourage you all to check out DC government’s stats on vaccination rates. Ask who is NOT vaccinated? Why is this not a local news report?
Get kids back in school. Masking is fine but it like a fat dress. Covering up a problem that is not going to be addressed because people don’t want to address the real problems!
At this stage of Covid - an eligible person has no excuse not to be vaccinated. It’s ridiculous. I encourage you all to check out DC government’s stats on vaccination rates. Ask who is NOT vaccinated? Why is this not a local news report?
Get kids back in school. Masking is fine but it like a fat dress. Covering up a problem that is not going to be addressed because people don’t want to address the real problems!
Anonymous
08/12/2021 18:34
Subject: How to push back against people who want to close schools AGAIN
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So I have heard that at one DC charter that already started back this week...25% of classes are now quarantining at home due to confirmed COVID cases in the room.
What a mess this will be. I think people have no idea how much of a disaster this fall will be.
What they need to do is stop quarantining everybody. If this will be a mess, it will be a mess of our own making.
You forgot the entire plot here. COVID is real. The mess of our own making is what would happen if we pretend it isn't in the classroom, and let it spread.
You forgot that the plot originally was that we need to protect the vulnerable and slow the spread so as not to overwhelm hospitals. Then the plot evolved to we need to wait for vaccines so the vulnerable can be protected. Nobody ever worried about kids until those things were achieved, and some people had now shifted their perspective to the idea that nobody must ever be put at risk of catching Covid, even if their risk of severe illness is close to zero (not zero).
Look, I’d rather my kids don’t catch Covid either. I don’t let them be unmasked in indoor public places. But schools need to function, and at some point we need to wonder if constant quarantine disruptions are worse than getting a probably mild case of Covid. Especially after they have already lost over a year of school, and given that it looks like the vaccines don’t prevent all infections either. Daily antigen testing of the whole exposed class, as was done in Britain, seems like a better approach.
Anonymous
08/12/2021 18:22
Subject: How to push back against people who want to close schools AGAIN
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So I have heard that at one DC charter that already started back this week...25% of classes are now quarantining at home due to confirmed COVID cases in the room.
What a mess this will be. I think people have no idea how much of a disaster this fall will be.
What they need to do is stop quarantining everybody. If this will be a mess, it will be a mess of our own making.
You forgot the entire plot here. COVID is real. The mess of our own making is what would happen if we pretend it isn't in the classroom, and let it spread.
It’s real but it’s not usually dangerous to young kids. Adults can and should be vaccinated.
Anonymous
08/12/2021 18:17
Subject: Re:How to push back against people who want to close schools AGAIN
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can you name your school?
Cleveland!
Well, I hid the Facebook post so I dunno, but it seems like just Becky being Becky.
Yup, looks like she’s on FB trying to recruit parents to help her shut down school again 🙄
on what grounds?
I had to leave all social media connected to my kid’s school so I wouldn’t lose it on parents like her.
Anonymous
08/12/2021 18:10
Subject: Re:How to push back against people who want to close schools AGAIN
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://fortune.com/2021/08/12/as-delta-infections-spiked-covid-cases-in-schools-actually-fell-a-lesson-from-england/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
As Delta infections spiked, COVID cases in schools actually fell—a lesson from England
And they didn't even mask! (Although they tested 2x / week)
DCPS is testing how many times a week again? Oh right, zero.
Oh did you skip the part where they didn’t mask? And we are?
Anonymous
08/12/2021 18:05
Subject: How to push back against people who want to close schools AGAIN
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Each school building cost dozens of millions of dollars.
Maintenance on same are astronomical, especially if they're older.
You guys aren't very bright if you believe that buying new curriculae for virtual schooling and paying a handful more teachers will ever be comparable to expanding, building, renovating and maintaining schools for our increasing student population.
You can buy yourself a curriculum for $30.
I've researched curriculum options - that is false.
I believe public school has a mandate to reach every resident child. And in our modern connected age, this should really include reaching them virtually as well. There are students who need to stay home for medical reasons, or who have professional or pre-professional occupations, performing arts or sports, or dual enrollment, and who could benefit from a virtual school.
I guess my belief is that virtual learning should not be a luxury in 2021. It should be just as normal and socially acceptable as brick-and-mortar schooling. And from a cost perspective, it is less expensive than building new schools.
They already provide schooling for everyone. Sorry if it doesn’t include 50 different customizable options. That is what private school and/or homeschooling is for.
Anonymous
08/12/2021 18:01
Subject: Re:How to push back against people who want to close schools AGAIN
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can you name your school?
Cleveland!
Well, I hid the Facebook post so I dunno, but it seems like just Becky being Becky.
Yup, looks like she’s on FB trying to recruit parents to help her shut down school again 🙄