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Anonymous wrote:I’ve only seen two episodes thus far, but can we talk about the husband and his wealth?

Julia is leaving A LOT out of her story. In the first two episodes, they make her seems like a self-made single mom who thrived despite her upbringing.

However, Silvio - her husband - is one of the richest telecom execs in Italy. He started the first broadband ISP, which he sold for $5.7B to Swisscom (his ownership was worth over $1B in 2007).

Using that money, he bought Elite World Group group in 2011
In 2013, he buys La Perla for 60m euros.

In 2013, Julia leaves her husband.

In 2016, Julia’s shoe line collaborated with La Perla. She becomes creative director of La Perla
In 2018, she becomes head of Elite World Group.
In 2019, Julia ans Silvio are married.

The husband has immense financial power over the kids and family. I guarantee we are not getting the whole story.

I was wondering how she rose through fashion so quickly. She’s smart abd a hard worker but people don’t rise so quickly through a cutthroat industry on pure merit

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve only seen two episodes thus far, but can we talk about the husband and his wealth?

Julia is leaving A LOT out of her story. In the first two episodes, they make her seems like a self-made single mom who thrived despite her upbringing.

However, Silvio - her husband - is one of the richest telecom execs in Italy. He started the first broadband ISP, which he sold for $5.7B to Swisscom (his ownership was worth over $1B in 2007).

Using that money, he bought Elite World Group group in 2011
In 2013, he buys La Perla for 60m euros.

In 2013, Julia leaves her husband.

In 2016, Julia’s shoe line collaborated with La Perla. She becomes creative director of La Perla
In 2018, she becomes head of Elite World Group.
In 2019, Julia ans Silvio are married.

The husband has immense financial power over the kids and family. I guarantee we are not getting the whole story.

I was wondering how she rose through fashion so quickly. She’s smart abd a hard worker but people don’t rise so quickly through a cutthroat industry on pure merit

Anonymous wrote:I’ve only seen two episodes thus far, but can we talk about the husband and his wealth?

Julia is leaving A LOT out of her story. In the first two episodes, they make her seems like a self-made single mom who thrived despite her upbringing.

However, Silvio - her husband - is one of the richest telecom execs in Italy. He started the first broadband ISP, which he sold for $5.7B to Swisscom (his ownership was worth over $1B in 2007).

Using that money, he bought Elite World Group group in 2011
In 2013, he buys La Perla for 60m euros.

In 2013, Julia leaves her husband.

In 2016, Julia’s shoe line collaborated with La Perla. She becomes creative director of La Perla
In 2018, she becomes head of Elite World Group.
In 2019, Julia ans Silvio are married.

The husband has immense financial power over the kids and family. I guarantee we are not getting the whole story.

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Anonymous wrote:Yep totally watching it. But like what are the chances that someone leaves and their life transforms like hers, especially so quickly?! Also, I know she made a comment about selling life insurance secretly before she left, but does she have any formal education and how is she qualified to run La Perla or Elite? I want to know more about her current husband-how they met and the level of acceptance he had for her and the kids is amazing.

There’s some part of the story they are skipping. It doesn’t make sense not having a secular education, then launching a successful shoe line, then being fired as a creative director of La Perla and then CEO of Elite. She’s clearly intelligent and driven but that kind of rise through a competitive industry doesn’t make sense.

Anonymous wrote:Yep totally watching it. But like what are the chances that someone leaves and their life transforms like hers, especially so quickly?! Also, I know she made a comment about selling life insurance secretly before she left, but does she have any formal education and how is she qualified to run La Perla or Elite? I want to know more about her current husband-how they met and the level of acceptance he had for her and the kids is amazing.

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Anonymous wrote:I started watching this last night and wow, it's fascinating. Does anyone know the community that they came from? Were they in Brooklyn? Prior to moving to NYC in my early 20s, I had never encounter Hasidic Jews and was just so curious about their culture/customs. The scenes of the community look like Williamsburg or somewhere in Brooklyn. Needless to say, I've watched every film/documentary focused on the Jewish Orthodox communities. In a weird way, this seems almost too surreal to be true to go from someone whose has been told her whole life that her whole purpose in life is to have children and please her husband and to go on to become this dynamic, vivacious leader and businessperson. Don't get me wrong, I'm so happy for Julia and her children that now they really are living their best lives, but I have so many questions.

Julia said she left the community in her early 40s. She was born in 1971 so she is only 50 now. How did Julia from "secret" insurance sales person to CEO of Elite in less than 10 years as a 40 something mom of four without much of a formal education who was also dealing with the trauma of leaving this kind of community? How did she accumulate so much wealth so fast? No doubt, her husband is also very successful, but still. How did her daughter, who also didn't have much of a formal education, get into Stanford? No doubt she's smart and very techie, but lots of very smart, techie kids with excellent credentials don't get into Stanford. This kind of success is just so rare and there are many people who hustle, have the right credentials, have all the "right" connections and it still doesn't happen for them like this. It's endless fascinating and I want to know all of her secrets.

It's also interesting to watch Batsheva, too because she is the most connected to their former way of life. It's the juxtaposition between being so independent/career focused and still needing to have a discussion with husband about him being okay with her wearing pants.

I am not sure whether this community started in Brooklyn, however, they have been in Rockland County for many years. And at odds with the community as well. It has been a very bumpy ride.

The community is out in force today on FB spewing garbage about Julia. Slut-shaming to the max. As a Jew, I am completely annoyed at their response. They are a cult period. No different than a conservative evangelical or ultra Mormon or the Duggars, Bates families on TV.

She is 100% correct that the community does not educate women. While they are claiming online that part isn't true, my cousin is part of this cult. She is very vocal. She did not educate her daughters she married them off at age 18 barely to men through matchmakers. None of her daughters are educated enough to even balance a checkbook. One of her sons who rebelled against the "laws" was sent to Miami to be reprogramed. UGH In my cousin's case she ran away from horrible home life. Parts of being in a community like this made her feel safe. That I understand, however, if one tries to leave they do come for you and try to make your life miserable, that is a cult.

Stanford, homeschoolers get into Stanford. She got in because she is very bright.


You are correct this kind of success does not come easily. Julia spent years preparing to leave. She did not just wake up one morning and decide to leave. She made a plan and executed it.

I haven’t watched the show yet, but grew up modern orthodox in NY adjacent to communities like hers. She wasn’t Hasidic, was what we call “frum,” from monsey in rockland county. It’s very religious but not quite chasidic. Boys and girls are sent to separate schools, girls wear skirts down to their ankles and shirt sleeves to their elbows. The schools like the one she attended, bais yaakov, are not exactly known for stellar “general/secular” studies (what the community calls things like English, science, social studies, etc.) Both boys and girls are sent to Israel for a year after high school, and girls start being set up for arranged marriages at 19. Yes, some will go on to excellent colleges, but most go to Jewish colleges or local colleges that enable them to live at home so as not to expose them to secular society (which is still an improvement from chasidic people who don’t let their kids into the secular world at all.) For women, it is very much a goal to be married by your early twenties, in fact, it’s called a crisis within the community to have unmarried women in their mid twenties and old (because the men at those ages will still marry the 19 year olds.) there is no sexual experience before marriage. It is a cult like existence that ensnares children during impressionable years, and then traps young women and men in marriages and religious lifestyles by their early twenties. The main difference between “frum” communities like hers, and chasidic ones, is that some of the adults, particularly men, are not just learning in yeshiva all day- they have normal professions that often require advanced degrees. For the most part, women are not lawyers and doctors- they are encouraged to be homemakers, teachers, speech pathologists, occupational therapists etc- careers that are more “flexible” for raising a large family. These are like check list requirements for dating for arranged marriages.

There are beautiful parts of a very religious life, but it is remarkable that she had the self determination to build a lucrative career and get out.

The orthodox community I come from is trashing her.

Why are they trashing her without even seeing it?

I presume some have seen it, but I personally have not had a chance to watch it yet. They are trashing her for it being traitorous or non authentic.

Anonymous wrote:I’ve only seen two episodes thus far, but can we talk about the husband and his wealth?

Julia is leaving A LOT out of her story. In the first two episodes, they make her seems like a self-made single mom who thrived despite her upbringing.

However, Silvio - her husband - is one of the richest telecom execs in Italy. He started the first broadband ISP, which he sold for $5.7B to Swisscom (his ownership was worth over $1B in 2007).

Using that money, he bought Elite World Group group in 2011
In 2013, he buys La Perla for 60m euros.

In 2013, Julia leaves her husband.

In 2016, Julia’s shoe line collaborated with La Perla. She becomes creative director of La Perla
In 2018, she becomes head of Elite World Group.
In 2019, Julia ans Silvio are married.

The husband has immense financial power over the kids and family. I guarantee we are not getting the whole story.

Anonymous wrote:I’ve only seen two episodes thus far, but can we talk about the husband and his wealth?

Julia is leaving A LOT out of her story. In the first two episodes, they make her seems like a self-made single mom who thrived despite her upbringing.

However, Silvio - her husband - is one of the richest telecom execs in Italy. He started the first broadband ISP, which he sold for $5.7B to Swisscom (his ownership was worth over $1B in 2007).

Using that money, he bought Elite World Group group in 2011
In 2013, he buys La Perla for 60m euros.

In 2013, Julia leaves her husband.

In 2016, Julia’s shoe line collaborated with La Perla. She becomes creative director of La Perla
In 2018, she becomes head of Elite World Group.
In 2019, Julia ans Silvio are married.

The husband has immense financial power over the kids and family. I guarantee we are not getting the whole story.

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Anonymous wrote:I'll answer here to the best of my ability. Pp who actually grew up with no movies or secular books and is annoyed and slightly amused by Julia (we knew her as Talia Leibov)

What about the morning prayer she referenced, which the males say, "Thank G-d I'm not a woman"? Is that a loose translation, or no?

It's an exact translation. Women say "that god made me the way He wanted". I personally don't feel offended, but feel free to take offense on my behalf.

Anonymous wrote:The answer is probably, "religious modesty rules: they don't make sense" but why does Batsheva's husband Ben have a problem with her wearing a pair of jeans because of "modesty" and pants being one step too far, but is totally ok with a micro mini skirt that barely covers her ass paired with a pushup bra and deep cut shirt showing tons of cleavage? I've only watched the first episode, but when she came out in those pants and he was upset my first thought was, "the pants?! what about the sultry off the shoulder cleavage bearing top?!" If any secular man were to be checking her out, it would definitely have been for those boobies, not the wide legged jeans!