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Anonymous wrote:When the kids are gone, which will be sooner than you think, you’ll regret not taking more time to be with them.

Not OP, but I would rather be home with my kids. Not on vacation. I hate vacations. I find them too stressful. A week is more than enough. I would only a go a week, maximum. I prefer no vacations at all.

I, I, I... how are you so focused on what YOU like and want. You choose to be a mom, no? Sure, take time to do what you like and want, but come on, you and op are just self-centered people.
If you have anxiety and vacations are stressful, that is not bcs vacations are stressful that is bcs you are that type of person. Think about how you are in everyday situations. Be honest now, are you the cause of stress on vacations and not the activity itself? I grew up with a mom like you, the simplest activity turned into a nightmare stress fest bcs she created the stress.

No, I did not "choose" to be a mom. 50% of pregnancies are unplanned. I chose not to get an abortion. No one is missing out in life not going on a two-week vacation.

Your kids must know how you feel about them. They are "not abortions!"

My kids know they magically happened. I love them and am a good parent. But I have been perfectly happy not having kids at all. It was not my plan and an absolute shock both times.
Anyway, no one needs to go on a two-week vacation. One week is plenty. Stop shaming the OP that she NEEDS to go on a two-week vacation. It's ridiculous. I have not ever been on a 2-week vacation. Some people can't afford vacation at all. My parents never had vacations. It is a luxury for people. It is not a necessity. If she does not want to go, she shoud not feel obligated to go--especially for two weeks. Everyone--including a mother--is allowed to have her own needs and preferences and her family should respect that. She should not have to be a martyr for everyone else. I was raised that way...and it sucks. I don't put up with it anymore. Men don't. Why should women? She can have her preference for a week of vacation or no vacation. Her preferences should be considered by the family.

LOL, if that happened twice, that is a YOU problem, not a birth control problem. Maybe you aren't very smart?

It's called reproductive coercion and a spouse who refused to use birth control (after the first accident to which I said "I don't want to have a baby...get off me...but "no, it is not going to happen." Had no sex between kids for years and no sex afterward. I'm divorced now. I resent him. Yeah, I was an idiot for letting someone coerce me into sex the first time when I was off the pill for a day. And I regret having sex once more YEARS later and him refusing to pull out. Be glad you did not marry a jerk. This could have been anticipated.

Yes you tell this story in every thread but never explain why you didn't get an abortion either time.

Religion. That is not hard to understand.

So it was your choice to be their parent. Goodbye and stop derailing this thread.

stop asking questions and starting stuff off with...you "chose to be a parent"--a lot of people don't and that comment was not relevant to the discussion. I did not start it but I will chime in when people make ridiculous comments like that. Choosing--or not choosing--to be a parent does not obligate them to go on a 2-week vacation.

You did choose to be a parent when you chose not to have an abortion. And while their father sucks your kids did deserve you telling them you didn't want them. Get therapy.

Stop making things up; no one said I told my kids I did not want them. They know they were not planned, which MOST pregnancies were not until very recent history. I don't need therapy. Some assuming every woman chooses to be a mother. Most people in history didn't. Some people choose to have kids. Some people are met with an unexpected pregnancy. I can't stand the holier than thou assumption that everyone "chooses" something, which is highly inaccurate because literally sill 50% of pregnancies in the US are unplanned. That does not mean you have to do things you don't want to just because you have kids...whatever that is...could be a two-week vacation...could be something else. I'm honest with how people are born...unlike you who is extremely judgemental and thinks all mothers have to be martyrs. Truth is...all of us are lucky to even be born at all. So much chance of it never happening. No one needs therapy...except maybe people like you who like to shame people "but you chose to be a mom..." you "have to go on a vacation you don't want to because you are a mom." give me a break. You sound like a SAHM who never worked in her life.

And now you insult sahm which I'm not btw. I'm not sure if you are stroll or just have severe emotional issues, either way you need therapy.

Anonymous wrote:Sure there are many reasons for a person NOT to be excited about a 2 week family vacation. A vacation should feel like a vacation -some compromises might be necessary in terms of length, location, level of activity and budget. The shaming and judging going on in this thread is bizarre. That said, this is a first world problem if ever there was one.

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Anonymous wrote:When the kids are gone, which will be sooner than you think, you’ll regret not taking more time to be with them.

Not OP, but I would rather be home with my kids. Not on vacation. I hate vacations. I find them too stressful. A week is more than enough. I would only a go a week, maximum. I prefer no vacations at all.

I, I, I... how are you so focused on what YOU like and want. You choose to be a mom, no? Sure, take time to do what you like and want, but come on, you and op are just self-centered people.
If you have anxiety and vacations are stressful, that is not bcs vacations are stressful that is bcs you are that type of person. Think about how you are in everyday situations. Be honest now, are you the cause of stress on vacations and not the activity itself? I grew up with a mom like you, the simplest activity turned into a nightmare stress fest bcs she created the stress.

No, I did not "choose" to be a mom. 50% of pregnancies are unplanned. I chose not to get an abortion. No one is missing out in life not going on a two-week vacation.

Your kids must know how you feel about them. They are "not abortions!"

My kids know they magically happened. I love them and am a good parent. But I have been perfectly happy not having kids at all. It was not my plan and an absolute shock both times.
Anyway, no one needs to go on a two-week vacation. One week is plenty. Stop shaming the OP that she NEEDS to go on a two-week vacation. It's ridiculous. I have not ever been on a 2-week vacation. Some people can't afford vacation at all. My parents never had vacations. It is a luxury for people. It is not a necessity. If she does not want to go, she shoud not feel obligated to go--especially for two weeks. Everyone--including a mother--is allowed to have her own needs and preferences and her family should respect that. She should not have to be a martyr for everyone else. I was raised that way...and it sucks. I don't put up with it anymore. Men don't. Why should women? She can have her preference for a week of vacation or no vacation. Her preferences should be considered by the family.

LOL, if that happened twice, that is a YOU problem, not a birth control problem. Maybe you aren't very smart?

It's called reproductive coercion and a spouse who refused to use birth control (after the first accident to which I said "I don't want to have a baby...get off me...but "no, it is not going to happen." Had no sex between kids for years and no sex afterward. I'm divorced now. I resent him. Yeah, I was an idiot for letting someone coerce me into sex the first time when I was off the pill for a day. And I regret having sex once more YEARS later and him refusing to pull out. Be glad you did not marry a jerk. This could have been anticipated.

Yes you tell this story in every thread but never explain why you didn't get an abortion either time.

Religion. That is not hard to understand.

So it was your choice to be their parent. Goodbye and stop derailing this thread.

stop asking questions and starting stuff off with...you "chose to be a parent"--a lot of people don't and that comment was not relevant to the discussion. I did not start it but I will chime in when people make ridiculous comments like that. Choosing--or not choosing--to be a parent does not obligate them to go on a 2-week vacation.

You did choose to be a parent when you chose not to have an abortion. And while their father sucks your kids did deserve you telling them you didn't want them. Get therapy.

Stop making things up; no one said I told my kids I did not want them. They know they were not planned, which MOST pregnancies were not until very recent history. I don't need therapy. Some assuming every woman chooses to be a mother. Most people in history didn't. Some people choose to have kids. Some people are met with an unexpected pregnancy. I can't stand the holier than thou assumption that everyone "chooses" something, which is highly inaccurate because literally sill 50% of pregnancies in the US are unplanned. That does not mean you have to do things you don't want to just because you have kids...whatever that is...could be a two-week vacation...could be something else. I'm honest with how people are born...unlike you who is extremely judgemental and thinks all mothers have to be martyrs. Truth is...all of us are lucky to even be born at all. So much chance of it never happening. No one needs therapy...except maybe people like you who like to shame people "but you chose to be a mom..." you "have to go on a vacation you don't want to because you are a mom." give me a break. You sound like a SAHM who never worked in her life.

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+1. That does not sound like a vacation at all.

Anonymous wrote:My mom did not go on a lot of vacations. It is not really a big deal. If you don't want to go for two weeks, don't.

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Anonymous wrote:When the kids are gone, which will be sooner than you think, you’ll regret not taking more time to be with them.

Not OP, but I would rather be home with my kids. Not on vacation. I hate vacations. I find them too stressful. A week is more than enough. I would only a go a week, maximum. I prefer no vacations at all.

I, I, I... how are you so focused on what YOU like and want. You choose to be a mom, no? Sure, take time to do what you like and want, but come on, you and op are just self-centered people.
If you have anxiety and vacations are stressful, that is not bcs vacations are stressful that is bcs you are that type of person. Think about how you are in everyday situations. Be honest now, are you the cause of stress on vacations and not the activity itself? I grew up with a mom like you, the simplest activity turned into a nightmare stress fest bcs she created the stress.

No, I did not "choose" to be a mom. 50% of pregnancies are unplanned. I chose not to get an abortion. No one is missing out in life not going on a two-week vacation.

Your kids must know how you feel about them. They are "not abortions!"

My kids know they magically happened. I love them and am a good parent. But I have been perfectly happy not having kids at all. It was not my plan and an absolute shock both times.
Anyway, no one needs to go on a two-week vacation. One week is plenty. Stop shaming the OP that she NEEDS to go on a two-week vacation. It's ridiculous. I have not ever been on a 2-week vacation. Some people can't afford vacation at all. My parents never had vacations. It is a luxury for people. It is not a necessity. If she does not want to go, she shoud not feel obligated to go--especially for two weeks. Everyone--including a mother--is allowed to have her own needs and preferences and her family should respect that. She should not have to be a martyr for everyone else. I was raised that way...and it sucks. I don't put up with it anymore. Men don't. Why should women? She can have her preference for a week of vacation or no vacation. Her preferences should be considered by the family.

LOL, if that happened twice, that is a YOU problem, not a birth control problem. Maybe you aren't very smart?

It's called reproductive coercion and a spouse who refused to use birth control (after the first accident to which I said "I don't want to have a baby...get off me...but "no, it is not going to happen." Had no sex between kids for years and no sex afterward. I'm divorced now. I resent him. Yeah, I was an idiot for letting someone coerce me into sex the first time when I was off the pill for a day. And I regret having sex once more YEARS later and him refusing to pull out. Be glad you did not marry a jerk. This could have been anticipated.

Yes you tell this story in every thread but never explain why you didn't get an abortion either time.

Religion. That is not hard to understand.

So it was your choice to be their parent. Goodbye and stop derailing this thread.

stop asking questions and starting stuff off with...you "chose to be a parent"--a lot of people don't and that comment was not relevant to the discussion. I did not start it but I will chime in when people make ridiculous comments like that. Choosing--or not choosing--to be a parent does not obligate them to go on a 2-week vacation.

You did choose to be a parent when you chose not to have an abortion. And while their father sucks your kids did deserve you telling them you didn't want them. Get therapy.

Stop making things up; no one said I told my kids I did not want them. They know they were not planned, which MOST pregnancies were not until very recent history. I don't need therapy. Some assuming every woman chooses to be a mother. Most people in history didn't. Some people choose to have kids. Some people are met with an unexpected pregnancy. I can't stand the holier than thou assumption that everyone "chooses" something, which is highly inaccurate because literally sill 50% of pregnancies in the US are unplanned. That does not mean you have to do things you don't want to just because you have kids...whatever that is...could be a two-week vacation...could be something else. I'm honest with how people are born...unlike you who is extremely judgemental and thinks all mothers have to be martyrs. Truth is...all of us are lucky to even be born at all. So much chance of it never happening. No one needs therapy...except maybe people like you who like to shame people "but you chose to be a mom..." you "have to go on a vacation you don't want to because you are a mom." give me a break. You sound like a SAHM who never worked in her life.

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Anonymous wrote:When the kids are gone, which will be sooner than you think, you’ll regret not taking more time to be with them.

Not OP, but I would rather be home with my kids. Not on vacation. I hate vacations. I find them too stressful. A week is more than enough. I would only a go a week, maximum. I prefer no vacations at all.

I, I, I... how are you so focused on what YOU like and want. You choose to be a mom, no? Sure, take time to do what you like and want, but come on, you and op are just self-centered people.
If you have anxiety and vacations are stressful, that is not bcs vacations are stressful that is bcs you are that type of person. Think about how you are in everyday situations. Be honest now, are you the cause of stress on vacations and not the activity itself? I grew up with a mom like you, the simplest activity turned into a nightmare stress fest bcs she created the stress.

No, I did not "choose" to be a mom. 50% of pregnancies are unplanned. I chose not to get an abortion. No one is missing out in life not going on a two-week vacation.

Your kids must know how you feel about them. They are "not abortions!"

My kids know they magically happened. I love them and am a good parent. But I have been perfectly happy not having kids at all. It was not my plan and an absolute shock both times.
Anyway, no one needs to go on a two-week vacation. One week is plenty. Stop shaming the OP that she NEEDS to go on a two-week vacation. It's ridiculous. I have not ever been on a 2-week vacation. Some people can't afford vacation at all. My parents never had vacations. It is a luxury for people. It is not a necessity. If she does not want to go, she shoud not feel obligated to go--especially for two weeks. Everyone--including a mother--is allowed to have her own needs and preferences and her family should respect that. She should not have to be a martyr for everyone else. I was raised that way...and it sucks. I don't put up with it anymore. Men don't. Why should women? She can have her preference for a week of vacation or no vacation. Her preferences should be considered by the family.

LOL, if that happened twice, that is a YOU problem, not a birth control problem. Maybe you aren't very smart?

It's called reproductive coercion and a spouse who refused to use birth control (after the first accident to which I said "I don't want to have a baby...get off me...but "no, it is not going to happen." Had no sex between kids for years and no sex afterward. I'm divorced now. I resent him. Yeah, I was an idiot for letting someone coerce me into sex the first time when I was off the pill for a day. And I regret having sex once more YEARS later and him refusing to pull out. Be glad you did not marry a jerk. This could have been anticipated.

Yes you tell this story in every thread but never explain why you didn't get an abortion either time.

Religion. That is not hard to understand.

So it was your choice to be their parent. Goodbye and stop derailing this thread.

stop asking questions and starting stuff off with...you "chose to be a parent"--a lot of people don't and that comment was not relevant to the discussion. I did not start it but I will chime in when people make ridiculous comments like that. Choosing--or not choosing--to be a parent does not obligate them to go on a 2-week vacation.

You did choose to be a parent when you chose not to have an abortion. And while their father sucks your kids did deserve you telling them you didn't want them. Get therapy.

Stop making things up; no one said I told my kids I did not want them. They know they were not planned, which MOST pregnancies were not until very recent history. I don't need therapy. Some assuming every woman chooses to be a mother. Most people in history didn't. Some people choose to have kids. Some people are met with an unexpected pregnancy. I can't stand the holier than thou assumption that everyone "chooses" something, which is highly inaccurate because literally sill 50% of pregnancies in the US are unplanned. That does not mean you have to do things you don't want to just because you have kids...whatever that is...could be a two-week vacation...could be something else. I'm honest with how people are born...unlike you who is extremely judgemental and thinks all mothers have to be martyrs. Truth is...all of us are lucky to even be born at all. So much chance of it never happening. No one needs therapy...except maybe people like you who like to shame people "but you chose to be a mom..." you "have to go on a vacation you don't want to because you are a mom." give me a break. You sound like a SAHM who never worked in her life.

Anonymous wrote:2 weeks staying in in-laws house is not my idea of a vacation. I'd stay for a week and then fly home separately. DH can manage with the kids and he'll have grandparents to help if needed.

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Anonymous wrote:When the kids are gone, which will be sooner than you think, you’ll regret not taking more time to be with them.

Not OP, but I would rather be home with my kids. Not on vacation. I hate vacations. I find them too stressful. A week is more than enough. I would only a go a week, maximum. I prefer no vacations at all.

I, I, I... how are you so focused on what YOU like and want. You choose to be a mom, no? Sure, take time to do what you like and want, but come on, you and op are just self-centered people.
If you have anxiety and vacations are stressful, that is not bcs vacations are stressful that is bcs you are that type of person. Think about how you are in everyday situations. Be honest now, are you the cause of stress on vacations and not the activity itself? I grew up with a mom like you, the simplest activity turned into a nightmare stress fest bcs she created the stress.

No, I did not "choose" to be a mom. 50% of pregnancies are unplanned. I chose not to get an abortion. No one is missing out in life not going on a two-week vacation.

Your kids must know how you feel about them. They are "not abortions!"

My kids know they magically happened. I love them and am a good parent. But I have been perfectly happy not having kids at all. It was not my plan and an absolute shock both times.
Anyway, no one needs to go on a two-week vacation. One week is plenty. Stop shaming the OP that she NEEDS to go on a two-week vacation. It's ridiculous. I have not ever been on a 2-week vacation. Some people can't afford vacation at all. My parents never had vacations. It is a luxury for people. It is not a necessity. If she does not want to go, she shoud not feel obligated to go--especially for two weeks. Everyone--including a mother--is allowed to have her own needs and preferences and her family should respect that. She should not have to be a martyr for everyone else. I was raised that way...and it sucks. I don't put up with it anymore. Men don't. Why should women? She can have her preference for a week of vacation or no vacation. Her preferences should be considered by the family.

LOL, if that happened twice, that is a YOU problem, not a birth control problem. Maybe you aren't very smart?

It's called reproductive coercion and a spouse who refused to use birth control (after the first accident to which I said "I don't want to have a baby...get off me...but "no, it is not going to happen." Had no sex between kids for years and no sex afterward. I'm divorced now. I resent him. Yeah, I was an idiot for letting someone coerce me into sex the first time when I was off the pill for a day. And I regret having sex once more YEARS later and him refusing to pull out. Be glad you did not marry a jerk. This could have been anticipated.

Yes you tell this story in every thread but never explain why you didn't get an abortion either time.

Religion. That is not hard to understand.

So it was your choice to be their parent. Goodbye and stop derailing this thread.

stop asking questions and starting stuff off with...you "chose to be a parent"--a lot of people don't and that comment was not relevant to the discussion. I did not start it but I will chime in when people make ridiculous comments like that. Choosing--or not choosing--to be a parent does not obligate them to go on a 2-week vacation.

You did choose to be a parent when you chose not to have an abortion. And while their father sucks your kids did deserve you telling them you didn't want them. Get therapy.