Anonymous
Post 06/29/2021 10:49     Subject: What behavior caused you to spank?
Anonymous wrote:I’ve never it my kids.

I don’t understand why your friend didn’t hold her wrist or put her on a leash.


A leash…..???!! 🙄😵‍💫
How barbaric.
A leash is for a dog.
Or if you are a little weird (like me!) a cat.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2021 10:47     Subject: Re:What behavior caused you to spank?
I personally think the main reason kids these days are more defiant is because they have never been spanked.

There is a fine line between abuse and discipline.
It is a parent’s responsibility to draw this line in the sand.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2021 09:31     Subject: What behavior caused you to spank?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thr Lancet just published an analysis of multiple studies in the subject: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00582-1/fulltext

"The consistency of these findings indicates that physical punishment is harmful to children and that policy remedies are warranted."


those are never controlled studies. they never account for context and application.


I Eman if you're not going to listen to an analysis of.69 studies published in a top medical journal, you won't listen to anything. Of course you can't have a double blind study on hitting kids, it's not ethical.

But it's a lot more reliable than thr anecdotes people weild.


If you have a poorly designed study that makes no effort to control for type of corporal punishment, ages, demographic factors, child's pre-disposition, frequency of use, method of implementation, parental resources, behavior that causes it, and many other factors, then simply repeating the same basic correlational observation 69 times does not make it any more useful.


You clearly didn't bother to read the article. This isn't a poorly conducted study.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2021 08:20     Subject: What behavior caused you to spank?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thr Lancet just published an analysis of multiple studies in the subject: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00582-1/fulltext

"The consistency of these findings indicates that physical punishment is harmful to children and that policy remedies are warranted."


those are never controlled studies. they never account for context and application.


I Eman if you're not going to listen to an analysis of.69 studies published in a top medical journal, you won't listen to anything. Of course you can't have a double blind study on hitting kids, it's not ethical.

But it's a lot more reliable than thr anecdotes people weild.


If you have a poorly designed study that makes no effort to control for type of corporal punishment, ages, demographic factors, child's pre-disposition, frequency of use, method of implementation, parental resources, behavior that causes it, and many other factors, then simply repeating the same basic correlational observation 69 times does not make it any more useful.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2021 08:10     Subject: What behavior caused you to spank?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thr Lancet just published an analysis of multiple studies in the subject: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00582-1/fulltext

"The consistency of these findings indicates that physical punishment is harmful to children and that policy remedies are warranted."


those are never controlled studies. they never account for context and application.


I Eman if you're not going to listen to an analysis of.69 studies published in a top medical journal, you won't listen to anything. Of course you can't have a double blind study on hitting kids, it's not ethical.

But it's a lot more reliable than thr anecdotes people weild.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2021 08:06     Subject: What behavior caused you to spank?
Anonymous wrote:Thr Lancet just published an analysis of multiple studies in the subject: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00582-1/fulltext

"The consistency of these findings indicates that physical punishment is harmful to children and that policy remedies are warranted."


those are never controlled studies. they never account for context and application.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2021 08:05     Subject: What behavior caused you to spank?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:big safety issues, repeated/blatant defiance, repeated lying


Doesn’t sound like it’s working.


yeah this sounds like someone heavily reliant on corporal punishment far beyond the “swat on the bottom for running in the street” stage.


no, the opposite. it was spanking that would ultimately work if and after other remedies failed.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2021 08:01     Subject: What behavior caused you to spank?
Thr Lancet just published an analysis of multiple studies in the subject: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00582-1/fulltext

"The consistency of these findings indicates that physical punishment is harmful to children and that policy remedies are warranted."
Anonymous
Post 06/28/2021 18:46     Subject: What behavior caused you to spank?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:big safety issues, repeated/blatant defiance, repeated lying


Doesn’t sound like it’s working.


yeah this sounds like someone heavily reliant on corporal punishment far beyond the “swat on the bottom for running in the street” stage.
Anonymous
Post 06/28/2021 18:45     Subject: What behavior caused you to spank?
Anonymous wrote:A small child obsessed with electric sockets turned me into someone with spanking as one of my disciplinary tools. Worked great. In general, it seems a lot less traumatic for an anxious kid, or at least that anxious kid, than the usual isolation techniques.


There are more disciplinary techniques than isolation, and I think you’re fooling yourself that spanking is less traumatic.
Anonymous
Post 06/28/2021 18:42     Subject: What behavior caused you to spank?
Anonymous wrote:big safety issues, repeated/blatant defiance, repeated lying


Doesn’t sound like it’s working.
Anonymous
Post 06/28/2021 18:30     Subject: What behavior caused you to spank?
I’ve never it my kids.

I don’t understand why your friend didn’t hold her wrist or put her on a leash.
Anonymous
Post 06/28/2021 18:24     Subject: What behavior caused you to spank?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why I would cause physical pain to a child because I wasn’t willing to teach them to behave? At that point I would just not have children? Because things like biting, traffic, grabbing knives are all behaviors parents teach children not to do all the time, all over the world, without hitting them. Hitting them would just mean I was a failure and that hardly seems the fault of a child.


Omfg "I would just not have children." Okay then, don't. So tiresome.


I already have children. I just don’t hit them. If I wanted to hit children because I couldn’t be bothered to teach them to behave, I would think better of having any.
Anonymous
Post 06/28/2021 15:57     Subject: What behavior caused you to spank?
A small child obsessed with electric sockets turned me into someone with spanking as one of my disciplinary tools. Worked great. In general, it seems a lot less traumatic for an anxious kid, or at least that anxious kid, than the usual isolation techniques.
Anonymous
Post 06/28/2021 15:16     Subject: What behavior caused you to spank?
big safety issues, repeated/blatant defiance, repeated lying