Anonymous wrote:My take

1. HYPSM
2. Caltech, Columbia, Chicago
3. Northwestern, Duke
4. Brown, Dartmouth, Cornell
5. JHU

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard
Stanford, Yale
MIT, Princeton, Columbia
Caltech, Penn, Chicago
Duke, Northwestern
Brown, Dartmouth

Duke tier should be swapped with the Brown tier, MIT should be one above.

Anonymous wrote:Caltech is pretty niche.

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard
Stanford, Yale
MIT, Princeton, Columbia
Caltech, Penn, Chicago
Duke, Northwestern
Brown, Dartmouth

Duke tier should be swapped with the Brown tier, MIT should be one above.

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard
Stanford, Yale
MIT, Princeton, Columbia
Caltech, Penn, Chicago
Duke, Northwestern
Brown, Dartmouth

Duke tier should be swapped with the Brown tier, MIT should be one above.

Anonymous wrote:Harvard
Stanford, Yale
MIT, Princeton, Columbia
Caltech, Penn, Chicago
Duke, Northwestern
Brown, Dartmouth

Anonymous wrote:Harvard
Stanford
Yale
MIT
Princeton
Caltech
Columbia
UChicago
Penn
Northwestern

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Anonymous wrote:The definitive guide for the top 7 universities in the USA:

1. Harvard
2. Stanford
3. MIT
4. Yale
5. Princeton
6. Columbia
7. Penn


After #7, there doesn't appear to be a consensus for #8 - #10. Perhaps Caltech, Brown, and Cornell?

Top 5 (HYPSM) are definitive, but not top 7. Many would place Caltech, or even UChicago, above Columbia and Penn.

1. Harvard / Stanford
3. Yale / Princeton / MIT
6. Columbia / UChicago / Caltech
9. Penn / Northwestern / Duke

That would be my list.

HYPSM are arguably interchangeable. They are the elite of the elite. Columbia is ahead of Chicago. Penn and Duke ahead of Northwestern.

1. Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT
6. Columbia
7. Penn
8. Duke
9. Caltech
10. Chicago

I agree with your list except for Duke - it's a fantastic university, but not sure if I'd unilaterally put it above Caltech or Chicago (or Northwestern, for that matter). I'd scoot Caltech/Chicago up and place Northwestern or Cornell or Hopkins at the no. 10 spot.

Might agree with moving Duke on the same line as Caltech and Chicago but not below it. I know there are many Duke haters but it is still a fantastic university as you say. Northwestern would not make my top 10 but certainly somewhere 11-15. One could argue Hopkins deserves top 10 status but still perceive them as somewhere 11-15. Cornell just outside the top 10 as well.

FWIW My Updated List:
1. Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT
6. Columbia
7. Penn
8. Duke, Caltech, Chicago
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11. Hopkins
12. Brown
13. Dartmouth
14. Northwestern
15. Cornell

Ok, deal. Done!