I’ll admit that I don’t understand being non-binary as a 41 yo cisgender woman. I do understand gender stereotypes and how women have been mistreated for centuries. I was honestly asking DH if I could call myself gender fluid or non-binary because I really like to wear pants or shorts and not tuck in my shirt. I also have several personality traits that are advantageous for men, but not for women. Do I just keep getting labelled aggressive or do I just regender myself?

I have a 10 yo daughter and whenever w ego to Target I remind her that when I was her age we didn’t have “boy” and “girl” Legos. You got one giant bucket of primary colors blocks and used your imagination. We did have some gendered toast like Kid Sister and the equivalent but not at all like it is today.

Ugh -sorry. Want say = wish

Why, autocorrect?

I’m pretty liberal, but I do think a lot of preteens and teens are “indentifying” as part of a trend rather than actually being whatever they claim.

And I really want say they didn’t feel the need to identify at all. You’re learning who you are and growing at that stage. Why peg yourself as one thing or another at that age?

Seems like a ploy to deflect from the bad PR around the froyo idiocy. Trying to be a woke darling again!

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Anonymous wrote:They are so annoying.

It's also none of your business what they call themselves. Their goal is not to please or placate you.

Pretty sure she made it our business, though.

+1. If something about me is no one’s business, what I do is not announce that thing to the world.

+1,000,000

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Anonymous wrote:This pronoun fad is going to deliver the White House to a conservative in a few years and it’s tragic. The wound will be totally self-inflicted. Call it attention-seeking or naval-gazing or what you will, but the trans/non-binary trend is turning a lot of social moderates away. Ask parents of middle schoolers how many girls they know who have become trans/non-binary. This is far from just natural variation in gender expression: it’s the hot new thing to do.

As a parent of a middle school girl I fully agree.

This is me. 100% agree with both PPs.

+1, mom of DS14 with plenty of friends who identify as NB instead of female.

agree

+100
It’s all very performative.

Anonymous wrote:I've worried about them for a long time. I hope at some point, they can find peace and health. They are so talented. It's such a shame they have struggled so much.

Ugh. So much virtue signaling in one post.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe I’m giving away my age here, but back in my day (1990s and 2000s), if you didn’t want to be a girly girl, you just weren’t a girly girl. I don’t understand this misogynistic attention seeking behavior. Look at me! I’m not like other girls. I’m “non-binary” and you can refer to me in the plural. Who gives a shit. Time to break down gender stereotypes, not continue to propagate them with this crap.

+1. Totally agree. What’s the need for all these labels? How are they helping? What happened to just accepting everyone no matter how they like to spend their time, what they wear, how short their hair is, etc. I agree that misogyny plays a large role here.

Agree +2. Unclear how having more "boxes" makes us more free. How about: how you choose to live your life (legally) is no one's business. They don't have to applaud you, you don't have to applaud them. Agree that misogyny play a big role in this version of "I'm not like the other girls" pose.

+3

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Anonymous wrote:This pronoun fad is going to deliver the White House to a conservative in a few years and it’s tragic. The wound will be totally self-inflicted. Call it attention-seeking or naval-gazing or what you will, but the trans/non-binary trend is turning a lot of social moderates away. Ask parents of middle schoolers how many girls they know who have become trans/non-binary. This is far from just natural variation in gender expression: it’s the hot new thing to do.

As a parent of a middle school girl I fully agree.

This is me. 100% agree with both PPs.

+1, mom of DS14 with plenty of friends who identify as NB instead of female.

agree

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Anonymous wrote:This pronoun fad is going to deliver the White House to a conservative in a few years and it’s tragic. The wound will be totally self-inflicted. Call it attention-seeking or naval-gazing or what you will, but the trans/non-binary trend is turning a lot of social moderates away. Ask parents of middle schoolers how many girls they know who have become trans/non-binary. This is far from just natural variation in gender expression: it’s the hot new thing to do.

As a parent of a middle school girl I fully agree.

This is me. 100% agree with both PPs.

+1, mom of DS14 with plenty of friends who identify as NB instead of female.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe I’m giving away my age here, but back in my day (1990s and 2000s), if you didn’t want to be a girly girl, you just weren’t a girly girl. I don’t understand this misogynistic attention seeking behavior. Look at me! I’m not like other girls. I’m “non-binary” and you can refer to me in the plural. Who gives a shit. Time to break down gender stereotypes, not continue to propagate them with this crap.

+1. Totally agree. What’s the need for all these labels? How are they helping? What happened to just accepting everyone no matter how they like to spend their time, what they wear, how short their hair is, etc. I agree that misogyny plays a large role here.

Agree +2. Unclear how having more "boxes" makes us more free. How about: how you choose to live your life (legally) is no one's business. They don't have to applaud you, you don't have to applaud them. Agree that misogyny play a big role in this version of "I'm not like the other girls" pose.

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Anonymous wrote:This pronoun fad is going to deliver the White House to a conservative in a few years and it’s tragic. The wound will be totally self-inflicted. Call it attention-seeking or naval-gazing or what you will, but the trans/non-binary trend is turning a lot of social moderates away. Ask parents of middle schoolers how many girls they know who have become trans/non-binary. This is far from just natural variation in gender expression: it’s the hot new thing to do.

As a parent of a middle school girl I fully agree.

This is me. 100% agree with both PPs.

I'll still enjoy listening to "Cool for the Summer"

Anonymous wrote:This pronoun fad is going to deliver the White House to a conservative in a few years and it’s tragic. The wound will be totally self-inflicted. Call it attention-seeking or naval-gazing or what you will, but the trans/non-binary trend is turning a lot of social moderates away. Ask parents of middle schoolers how many girls they know who have become trans/non-binary. This is far from just natural variation in gender expression: it’s the hot new thing to do.

As a parent of a middle school girl I fully agree.

This pronoun fad is going to deliver the White House to a conservative in a few years and it’s tragic. The wound will be totally self-inflicted. Call it attention-seeking or naval-gazing or what you will, but the trans/non-binary trend is turning a lot of social moderates away. Ask parents of middle schoolers how many girls they know who have become trans/non-binary. This is far from just natural variation in gender expression: it’s the hot new thing to do.