Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wait this has me thinking...do you all tip home cleaners every time? Not ones hired from national companies but self employed small crew business?
My sister does my hair and refuses any payment, so I just get her a bigg gift card at the holidays. But I do have a house cleaner
No, holidays only.
Anonymous wrote:Wait this has me thinking...do you all tip home cleaners every time? Not ones hired from national companies but self employed small crew business?
My sister does my hair and refuses any payment, so I just get her a bigg gift card at the holidays. But I do have a house cleaner
Anonymous wrote:Question to the shut-up-and-pay-up crowd: how exactly should we combine the two - leave ever-increasing-percentage-tips to ever-growing list of people expecting tips AND also protest against the tipping culture? How will the system ever change or even just stop growing, if everyone just keeps tipping more and more without complaint, whether they are comfortable with the amount or not?
Anonymous wrote:If you can't afford an $80 tip, you can't afford a $400 haircut. This is all cringe.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you don't want to pay 20% tip then don't get the high end service. And FFS please tip the shampooer, how cheap could you be?
So...what is the not high end service? Every salon I’ve ever been to includes a shampoo and blow dry. High end salons don’t give any additional services, they just charge more for stylist skill, better quality products, nicer salon. Paying $90 for a hair cut vs $20 covers the cost of having a better haircut, without tip. Tip is you want, whatever you want, but no it isn’t required.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To those making calculations about where the fee for service goes in a salon - some to the stylist some to the salon owner - I haven’t seen any of you factoring the cost of materials, which aren’t cheap. All the product they use on your hair from shampoo/conditioner to color, keratin treatment, styling product, etc. - that all costs plenty and the high end salon is using the high end expensive products. Yes they likely get a wholesale price, but still it’s cutting into the service price so don’t think it’s all going into the pocket of stylist or salon owner. Plenty of other overhead costs, too.
That’s factored into their cost of doing business which sets their prices. Do you tip your doctor because they use paper, bandaids, saline, pay someone to answer the phone, has a website, and needs a Zoom subscription now?
The fact is that the compensation for a stylist has historically been in part based on tips plus part of the cost of the service. You can start a crusade to change the industry (and while you're at it the restaurant tipping compensation scheme) but shorting the person who performs your service because you believe the entire industry is wrong is not a great way to go about it.
I don’t short them, I just don’t go often. I do tip servers 20% because they make about $2 an hour and they are not professionals. I used to work as a waitress and in a spa. I just don’t buy into this whiny, I deserve $200 an hour nonsense. Or a shampoo apprenticeship needing a $5 tip for 5 minutes work on top of their hourly wage.
If you begrudge a shampoo attendant $5 a visit (which. if you even go monthly. is $60 a year), you are cheap and you are kind of a bad person. You are the one who is whining.
Oh, please. It’s 5 minutes of work they’re already being paid for.
Agree. Stop trying to guilt people into giving away money. You are already paying for a shampoo as it is part of the service.
Then stop trying to convince people not to tip. You don't tip - fine, but the rest of us will do it. No need to go on a crusade to short the salon workers.
That’s the thing, it isn’t shorting anyone. You aren’t owed a tip of a certain amount. Do you understand what a tip is?
Anonymous wrote:If you don't want to pay 20% tip then don't get the high end service. And FFS please tip the shampooer, how cheap could you be?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To those making calculations about where the fee for service goes in a salon - some to the stylist some to the salon owner - I haven’t seen any of you factoring the cost of materials, which aren’t cheap. All the product they use on your hair from shampoo/conditioner to color, keratin treatment, styling product, etc. - that all costs plenty and the high end salon is using the high end expensive products. Yes they likely get a wholesale price, but still it’s cutting into the service price so don’t think it’s all going into the pocket of stylist or salon owner. Plenty of other overhead costs, too.
That’s factored into their cost of doing business which sets their prices. Do you tip your doctor because they use paper, bandaids, saline, pay someone to answer the phone, has a website, and needs a Zoom subscription now?
The fact is that the compensation for a stylist has historically been in part based on tips plus part of the cost of the service. You can start a crusade to change the industry (and while you're at it the restaurant tipping compensation scheme) but shorting the person who performs your service because you believe the entire industry is wrong is not a great way to go about it.
I don’t short them, I just don’t go often. I do tip servers 20% because they make about $2 an hour and they are not professionals. I used to work as a waitress and in a spa. I just don’t buy into this whiny, I deserve $200 an hour nonsense. Or a shampoo apprenticeship needing a $5 tip for 5 minutes work on top of their hourly wage.
If you begrudge a shampoo attendant $5 a visit (which. if you even go monthly. is $60 a year), you are cheap and you are kind of a bad person. You are the one who is whining.
Oh, please. It’s 5 minutes of work they’re already being paid for.
Agree. Stop trying to guilt people into giving away money. You are already paying for a shampoo as it is part of the service.
Then stop trying to convince people not to tip. You don't tip - fine, but the rest of us will do it. No need to go on a crusade to short the salon workers.
That’s the thing, it isn’t shorting anyone. You aren’t owed a tip of a certain amount. Do you understand what a tip is?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To those making calculations about where the fee for service goes in a salon - some to the stylist some to the salon owner - I haven’t seen any of you factoring the cost of materials, which aren’t cheap. All the product they use on your hair from shampoo/conditioner to color, keratin treatment, styling product, etc. - that all costs plenty and the high end salon is using the high end expensive products. Yes they likely get a wholesale price, but still it’s cutting into the service price so don’t think it’s all going into the pocket of stylist or salon owner. Plenty of other overhead costs, too.
That’s factored into their cost of doing business which sets their prices. Do you tip your doctor because they use paper, bandaids, saline, pay someone to answer the phone, has a website, and needs a Zoom subscription now?
The fact is that the compensation for a stylist has historically been in part based on tips plus part of the cost of the service. You can start a crusade to change the industry (and while you're at it the restaurant tipping compensation scheme) but shorting the person who performs your service because you believe the entire industry is wrong is not a great way to go about it.
I don’t short them, I just don’t go often. I do tip servers 20% because they make about $2 an hour and they are not professionals. I used to work as a waitress and in a spa. I just don’t buy into this whiny, I deserve $200 an hour nonsense. Or a shampoo apprenticeship needing a $5 tip for 5 minutes work on top of their hourly wage.
If you begrudge a shampoo attendant $5 a visit (which. if you even go monthly. is $60 a year), you are cheap and you are kind of a bad person. You are the one who is whining.
Oh, please. It’s 5 minutes of work they’re already being paid for.
Agree. Stop trying to guilt people into giving away money. You are already paying for a shampoo as it is part of the service.
Then stop trying to convince people not to tip. You don't tip - fine, but the rest of us will do it. No need to go on a crusade to short the salon workers.